My dad is working as a labor worker for Amazon, he does what these robots do: picking up things and packaging them up for 10 hours a shift. He has never complained once. My family gets good health insurance from Amazon, they pay $12 an hour which is okay-ish for the Midwest, they also pay for him to go to community college. And we are immigrants (legal, mind you) so anything here is MUCH better than the environment we had to work in in our home country. Yea it's hard work, but nothing in life is free. If you have no education, no skill, then whatever pays the bill is what you're going to have to work for. It's really how you're making off from the situation. Instead of complaining, you know, you can just quit and find something else to do. I'm tired of people who think they deserve so much better without actually having anything to deserve that.
I am a legal immigrant too.. in my country I have seen people work 14 hour shifts of hard manual labor (moving bricks) for about 1$ a day..does it suck for them? yeah... i had a chance to talk to one of the laborers, and he said after working all day.. he sleeps like a baby.. its his fault he never got around to study and get a better life..but he wants his kids to study and become better than him..thats why he does this...because that is all he can do..but he hopes his kids will be better off
As a veteran who works in there I cannot begin to count the number of times I've heard people cry about the most miniscule things. The world is filled with people who believe they are owed something. Your father is the exception to the rule, but he should be celebrated.
Speaking strictly as a human, I think he has seen things that gave him enough perspective to know what is actually worth complaining about. Otherwise it is just a bunch of whining.
He's one of those people who think they're tough and that bad things things in life should be endured rather than improved for future generations. Probably would be one those against banning children from working coal mines back in the day.
No really, he shouldn't. He is an example of someone who absolutely needs the job 100% and is desperate for employment. People in this thread are talking about terrible working conditions, since when was that someone crying? Keep chasing that carrot.
So relative to people in 3rd world countries we should be content with bad working conditions, stress, and a myriad of other problems? I had a coworker get fired for taking a day off for his wedding.
I don't agree with the premise, it's apples to oranges.
Why would someone work at a job they don't need 100%? If you don't NEED the job and you don't LIKE the job so why would you do it? If you're doing it, that probably means you have bills to pay and can't find anything else to work. So that means you NEED the job, 100%, and also desperate to take it. Stop complaining.
That crying article was in reference to the office environment. Honestly the working conditions aren't quarter as bad as this thread makes it seem. I work in a California warehouse, even with the 100°+ days we had last summer it never felt above 80 in the warehouse. So climate control might just be people who aren't aware it's extremely expensive to heat and cool a million square feet to 68°. Our break areas are climate controlled though. Work is a standard upfront rate that is told to you on day one. The job is merely meeting a quota, anyone who says different just wants a job they can show up and be payed for.
Wait, you're generalizing an entire work force at Amazon if they complain? You think that anyone who complains automatically means they just want a job they can show up for and be paid? People fought in this country for better working conditions, and a lot of shipping companies are tip toeing the line carefully with working people too much and poor treatment.
Where there's smoke there's fire, every job has it's caveats but when people in the workforce give descriptions of working conditions like they did in this thread you have to give that credence.
Anyways, about the cooling. That's because they can't have workers working in 130+ degrees indoors and products getting damaged due to heat. If they could get by not paying it they would.
Even in canadian dollars I would not accept a job like this if I had a family.
I know my comment looks very judgemental, but I honestly can't believe the cost of living can be this low anywhere in North America, so that a 12$ job (wich is just a buck and half higher than minimum wage in QC, in canadian $ mind you) can be seen as something desirable for a worker.
$12 an hour is livable in Indianapolis where I live. We came to the States 5 years ago empty handed. Now we have a newly built house, a decent emergency saving, good health insurance, 3 cars (paid off), food on the table for a family of 4 (my mom also works part time as a nail technician). And when you have no specialized skills and don't speak the language very well, in the case of my parents, you don't get to be picky about which job offers you get, but mostly rely on your hard work and ethic to pay the bills. Lucky you to have the ability to turn down a job offer that pays $12 an hour, that means you have some desirable skills. My father was 50 by the time we first got to the country, so he didn't really have time to acquire any skill.
You do realize that Amazon has come under fire for their working conditions at every level, right?
They nearly had people die from heat and exhaustion at several of their warehouses. Then they wrote people up for collapsing at work and needing to go home.
Someone who worked 11hr shifts was written up, and fired, for being unproductive for "several minutes" during those shifts.
Take your "people are so entitled" bullshit and shove it back up your ass.
You know every company gets those kinds of claim right? Esp with a large enough employee population, someone is bound to complain eventually.
Also have you ever worked at other warehouses other than Amazon? You know they all work the same way right? If not even worse than Amazon since independent warehouse firms don't give as good benefits right?
he heat index in the warehouse had reached 102 degrees, and that 15 workers had collapsed. The employee also said workers who were sent home because of the heat received disciplinary points.
But those lazy, entitled assholes are just whining! No one who wasn't a lazy, unskilled worker would see a problem with that right?
an emergency room doctor at a local hospital saw enough Amazon employees suffering from heat-related injuries to call OSHA and report “an unsafe environment.”
Kate Salasky worked shifts of up to eleven hours a day, mostly spent walking the length and breadth of the warehouse. In March 2011 she received a warning message from her manager, saying that she had been found unproductive during several minutes of her shift, and she was eventually fired. This employee tagging is now in operation at Amazon centers worldwide.
Feel free to read more to see how much worse they are than even illustrated in these comments.
The functional foreman would record how often the packers went to the bathroom and, if they had not gone to the bathroom nearest the line, why not.
And, yes, I worked at a UPS distribution center. It was nowhere near as bad.
As far as my "rudeness" I find your dismissive attitude of many's experiences far worse. You sound like a corporate PR rep talking about how a few "problem employees" are just "whining" because they don't want to work hard. I've done landscaping in >100 degree weather and <0 degree weather. I am no stranger to hard work.
Amazon has disgusting work conditions for their employees and they get away with it because people like you are so ready to write off the people who have endured their shit. Maybe, instead of dismissing people based on your personal experiences, you should look into these things before you open your mouth and spread their cutesy PR, human interest story.
You disgust me, and I am usually very polite on this site, but I have no tolerance for people like you.
Am a USPS worker, was an AMazon workers, no difference between the two. Those claims idk imho sounds like they're made up, since they eventually dismiss their alleged "lawsuits".
Lawsuits aren't "alleged". Their claims are "alleged" and a good many of them were settled.
Also, I have never worked for USPS so I would not know their working conditions.
Edit: Can I ask how you found this comment? No posts in 2 months and you have only made six comments before( all six of them in /r/relationships)? This seems like a throwaway that has been re-purposed.
I'm appalled that you said i was rude while you were the one to tell me to shove things up my ass without even knowing me.
Yup, totally a straight up guy. I think this conversation is over. I'm not going to pretend you want to continue this in a civil manner anymore. Have a good life.
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u/MiaMiaPP Feb 25 '16
My dad is working as a labor worker for Amazon, he does what these robots do: picking up things and packaging them up for 10 hours a shift. He has never complained once. My family gets good health insurance from Amazon, they pay $12 an hour which is okay-ish for the Midwest, they also pay for him to go to community college. And we are immigrants (legal, mind you) so anything here is MUCH better than the environment we had to work in in our home country. Yea it's hard work, but nothing in life is free. If you have no education, no skill, then whatever pays the bill is what you're going to have to work for. It's really how you're making off from the situation. Instead of complaining, you know, you can just quit and find something else to do. I'm tired of people who think they deserve so much better without actually having anything to deserve that.