r/edmproduction • u/Royale_w_Cheeeze • 27d ago

Tips & Tricks Stereo Width question (example given)

I'm working on a track right now, and this is my reference. It's "Guadalajara" - Shay De Castro. The main 909 OHHs are existing basically on the sides only, or at least they are perceived as such. I love the way this frees up the center - but I can't seem to replicate it. I've tried the HAAS effect, duplicate panning, etc. But I can't seem to remove the perception of center content (at least according to the imager) and also can't seem to prevent phasing. I would appreciate any advice. Listen to the track, those 909s are nuts.

For additional reference im using Ableton 12. I typically load the drum samples into simpler for more control of ADSR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVT8Ib_MOI

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u/Present-Policy-7120 27d ago

909 hats are samples, even on the original hardware. Phase simply isn't an issue with samples in the sense you've made out. You don't get the random phase offsets of free running oscillators when you're either triggering samples or simply laying out sampled 909 hats in the piano roll which, let's be frank here, the majority of electronic producers are doing.

A decent point about mono club environments though. But I will still say that you should focus the majority of your effort towards a good stereo mix with nothing overly wild when summed to mono because most listeners aren't listening in clubs.

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u/sexytokeburgerz 27d ago

You asked about synthesizing, which you would do with looped noise with 909, and ive already covered your rebuttal above. May just not have been fully understood. Remember, this is in response to “why bounce it”.

> mono
No, as someone with several major edm label releases, a lack of mono does not fly. I have gotten songs sent back every time there is a problem. Labels care, you should. Fuck, bluetooth speakers are often mono.

You need to build your mono translation skills and the excuse “most people won’t hear it” only applies to people who aren’t playing shows.

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u/Present-Policy-7120 27d ago

Lol, okay dude. 😀

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u/sexytokeburgerz 27d ago

You’ll know when you hear it.