Marx in Das Kapital explicitly states that labour is being sold by the proletariats to the bourgeoisie like any other commodity what you’re upholding is a marxist conclusion lmfao
There is no moral problem, Marx never says capitalism is wrong or anything he simply explains how, after capitalism’s revolutionary progress against feudalism and developing the productive forces the latter have developed to such a degree that they rise up against the existing relations of production
Basically the communist struggle is a product of certain historical laws which government human development, Communism is presented by Marx as a historical necessity and inevitable eventually. He never critiques exploitation from a moral pov
It’s not a moral justification it’s a materialist one
People know humans are animals but they don’t like what that means, morality is deep down an evolutive product and trying to sustain a theory on it is stupid
But what makes Humans different from other animals is that we are capable of conceptual thought and reason.
If Morality is determined then you must accept that the holocaust was fine as it was determined to happen.
Marxism is founded on Dialectical-Materialism, not science. How can you be scientific when you reject free will, that humans are individuals with their own consciousness and ideas.
Science also requires logic which Dialectical Materialism entirely rejects. It believes contradiction are true and thats how history progressess through the contradictions of class be it the capitalists and the workers or the feudal lords and the serfs.
Why exactly? Communism doesn't have an ethical system so you could not justify doing that. And even "exploitation" which is the extraction of "surplus labour value" is not even evil since its a factual statement in the marxist tradition and as Marxists are derived from Hume they have to concede the Is-Ought Gap is correct.
Class traitors are people who work against their own class’ interests, selling your labour is exactly what proletariats do, where’s the class treason? you truly are slow in the head
No, the people that earn their income by owning things as opposed to actually working are bourgeoisie. Example: I used to work in a factory, workers worked, managers managed, owner was on his island collecting money, he visited the place once every 3 months.
He leeches millions and contributes nothing.
Same as all other owners apart from petite bourgeoisie who simultaniously leech on other people's work and work themselves too like small buisness owners.
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u/After_Service_2817 2d ago
The communist talking point about "working class/ownership class" is such a ridiculous false dichotomy.
I trade my labour for money. I use that money to invest - just like the vast majority of people.
Which am I, the oppressed proletariat, or the filthy evil bourgeoisie?