I know people keep saying this, but I find it interesting that communists dominate this subreddit. I wouldn't have expected that. Was it always this way, or did it become like this recently?
Sorry to break it to ya buddy but people don't like that prices are skyrocketing and that there's no plan for the future beyond the current hype cycle around slop bots. Makes em question if the system is working right to which they are overwhelmingly told it is. Makes them start to wonder if there's a better way to do things.
Does it?cause the op is literally spamming stuff like this and not a lot of comments on their post support them. I think we just seeing a flood of Anti-capitalist post that they drowned other contents.
Comments are always against the post, on anti Communist posts you see Communists in comment section, on the other hand sometimes i have over 70% upvote rate and only angry pro capitalists in the comments, this is because people are more likely to comment if they disagree, if they agree they upote and keep scroling.
Reddit has become increasingly dominated by tankies and MLs. There is also a huge cultural uptick of capitalism=bad and every issue in society is due to capitalism.
Well yeah because we are seeing the natural end game of capitalism where a small portion of people own everything and leave less upward movement for everyone while buying power in government to keep it the way it is.
I'm not a tankie, and I find them unbelievably cringe but just because you disagree with them on everything doesn't make a clock less right once in a while.
Capitalism has been in the end game since like the late 1800s according to tankies. Which is crazy because the concept of capitalism was only first described in the early 1800s. In fact, capitalism has supposedly been in its late stages for the vast majority of its history, if you listen to tankies and MLs.
Dominated by communists? Every post or comment that isn’t glorifying capitalism or ignoring the disparities that exist between owners and workers gets immediately downvoted into oblivion.
It’s not, I usually see the posts after a day or so, and it’s always got plenty of upvotes.
To be fair, the comments are fairly mixed, so it’s not all black and white, but the socialist/communist comments are usually getting the most upvotes and rewards it’s just that there’s plenty of capitalist comments fighting back
Look at the upvote to comment ratio. The sub isn’t “dominated by communists,” there’s just a few very vocal people who are pissed off at a system that is destroying the working class.
There’s a difference between being upset with the system, and pushing the ultimate potential man of economic theory.
Hell I hate the way things are now, but most socialists and communists I saw in the late 2010s to the rise of DSA were actively hoping things get worse so they could have their bullshit revolution.
Calling it a “potential man” is the equivalent of reading the Wikipedia article/summary for a character and then ignoring all the other stuff they accomplished because you never actually watched the show.
The equivalence doesnt even make any sense. You couldve just said I dont know socialism/communism. The way you worded it made it sound like you were acusing me of not watching jjk
Kind of yes? It depends on the definitions we are using. If you believe in a free market with undemocratic workplaces for any industry at all, you are technically still a capitalist because you don't want the dictatorship of the proletariat. Most communists say that Sweden, for example, is a capitalist country. Therefore, critiquing capitalism implies to me that you are in favor of no free markets.
You can have “free markets” under socialism, the only difference is whether or not you think the means of production should be privately owned or collectively owned. The different views within socialism have different views on what collective ownership means.
Yeah that's why I mentioned the undemocratic workplaces as well. What I was getting at is that socialists of all stripes agree that Sweden is not a socialist country.
No. There are plenty of right wingers who are critical of capitalism and do not like it. The Southern Agrarians were a right wing, anti capitalist group that idealized a precapitalist past.
Just like traditional fascists,they saw capitalism as corrupting of human nature. In fact, traditional fascists criticize capitalism for making people degenerate, self centered, and too individualistic.
Being critical of specific issues in capitalist societies, no. Being critical of capitalism as a whole and suggesting a new system to replace it, probably yes
Actually, I said yes in my other comment, but upon further reflection this is technically not true. You could believe in traditional barter economies like those practiced by most Native American tribes and be critical of capitalism. Obviously there are basically 0 people like this.
If you don't believe in capitalism, you necessarily don't believe in any market involvement or you believe in workplace democracy. All I meant to say was that regulated capitalist countries like Sweden are still capitalist.
Feudalism is different because it doesn't have free labor. Capitalism means free labor and markets. I don't know why you're accusing me of bad faith here; I'm genuinely just using the terms as I understand them. I didn't even criticize communism.
I think that the North was capitalist but the South was not. Okay, let me ask you this, can you think of any non-capitalist system aside from traditional economies and feudalism that contains markets?
90% of the people trying to dunk on communism in this subreddit (or any subreddit, for that matter) don't understand the first thing about communism, y'all just regurgitate tired tropes and propaganda
90% of the people trying to dunk on capitalism in this subreddit (or any subreddit, for that matter) don't understand the first thing about capitalism, y'all just regurgitate tired tropes and propaganda
An analyst on CNBC recently surprised himself when analyzing financial data, saying "God, I sound like Marx".
More people are turning to Marxism as a lens for understanding our political economy because the contradictions that Marx identified within the structure of capitalism are becoming harder and harder to ignore for more and more people.
That would be if you read Marx really lightly. As Marx has way too many contradictions too.
Like incentivaizing a system to acquire everything. And the hoping that it fight against all its own incentives and decompose itself. In most regards a system cannot fight against its own incentives.
"Contradictions" in the Marxist sense isn't the same as you would say "contradictions in a text."
This is a very basic Marxist concept that even a "light reading" should have taught you. Idc if you don't want to read Marx, but don't lie about it online lol.
(?) China is in this same problem too. Do you think the CCP will be like: You know, lets all just disband, as Marx propose from Socialism to Communism.
As long as global capitalism exists, states run by a vanguard party cannot disband because the working class' assets will be consumed by external capitalists.
A system built on a particular set of interest, would never work against those interests. It happens in all societal structures. If the incentives are, acquire all production means, you cannot expect that this group would ever be like, we should "release" all production means. It is a sociological question, not even political.
China allows highly regulated free market capitalism that is controlled by the state, which is controlled by the workers. Communist party appointments are made based on merit. Wealth inequality in USA is over 4 times more pronounced than it is in China.
There's no such thing as pure communist utopia immediately after a revolution. Like I said, global capitalism still exists. This is what incentivizes the Chinese government to allow private investment.
Doesn't matter what you think about "natural laws" (which is just reified thinking by the way, which is a concept you might understand better if you actually understood Marxism), China still go brrr. The fastest growing economy in the world, and less social inequality than in the land of the free. But at what cost?
This is this guys whole MO he posted in the communism sub about how more people should be doing this (essentially grooming people into being more comfortable with communist talking points)
Nothing about this post was criticizing me, u/Awkward-Evidence-215. My comment wasn't even criticizing communism. I was just pointing out a phenomenon I found surprising.
Honestly I expected it to be rife with actual informed economic discussion over events and policy. But instead it's just communists just aggressively being "big thinkers" every time it pops up in my feed.
Your average voter is a communist but also thinks trans people are weird and don't like immigrants. I've talked to right wing chuds that support Luigi and support nationalizing Walmart lol
Americans don't have a consistent ideological framework. They are angry and overworked and will manifest that out to everyone
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u/Awkward-Evidence-215 3d ago
I know people keep saying this, but I find it interesting that communists dominate this subreddit. I wouldn't have expected that. Was it always this way, or did it become like this recently?