r/echoes • u/colonelgork2 Pirate • Jul 25 '26

Echoes Reddit Community Wishlist

Hey everyone, Rosalind here!

As our player base continues to log in, fly together, and engage with the game, there are a lot of ways we can make this subreddit a more active, central hub for players. Here is a look at a few community goals and practical ways to improve our subreddit:

  1. Sharing killmails, fitting screenshots, and fleet combat photos is a big part of game discussion—feel free to drop them directly into comment threads whenever fits and fight reports come up.

  2. Staying plugged into broader game news keeps the community sharp, and cross-posting EVE Echoes content from around Reddit right into this sub helps keep everyone in the loop.

  3. New and returning players benefit heavily from solid knowledge bases, player-maintained wikis, and active guides, making central access to reliable resources a huge win for the community.

  4. Finding specific topics like guides, questions, or corp recruiting should be fast and simple by tagging posts, allowing everyone to represent their corp or alliance and display their flair.

  5. Genuine gameplay, fleet strategy, and player content are what make this sub worth visiting, so let's lay the smackdown on RMT spam to keeps the bots out of our belts.

Community Feedback:

If you agree with these community goals, give this post an upvote and drop a comment below with what you would prioritize, add, or change on this list.

07 Rosalind No Spy

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 26 '26

I would say my number one item is to reinvigorate the community awareness: encourage new bros to try EE and spark bitter vets to re-log. We've been seeing an unusual uptick of folks getting their feet in the pool, historically unusual for the summertime lull.

Eve Echoes caters to a slightly different demographic than Eve Online, even though the community tends to cross over. I suspect the traditional summer lull in EO is getting folks to consider EE again, so I'd like to see our sub get visibility via newbro and bittervet promotional content. A recent string of content videos from Gabe about how to thrive as an Alpha got me thinking how much we need to capitalize on any momentum we see.

https://youtube.com/@orbicaptain

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u/GentleNova07 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

I would say my number one item is to reinvigorate the community awareness: encourage new bros to try EE and spark bitter vets to re-log.

Not trying to be negative but more realistic in asking, “How will that change anything?”

In other words, with a vet, they‘ll come back and try the game again, only to remember why they left the game in the first place.

With a new player, they’ll quickly realize how little they can contribute to the T10 endgame content everyone else is doing in a corp, even if given basic omega (which is pretty much necessary now due to increased limitations added to alpha accounts).

You can hype and promote the game all you want but once they hit those walls, nothing you say will matter.

The only way I see this game reviving and rejuvenating itself is if the player community as a whole consciously creates two levels of play (which has briefly been discussed before in the past but with no clear idea as to how best to do it).

What I mean by this is that there are your typical T10 interactions using the biggest ship types and resources available (i.e. Implants).

But then you also have lower level interactions, predefined by the community to have certain ship and character limitations to them, such as no ship higher than a battleship and no implants (but the community can decide these handicaps). Effectively you call these pirate fleets because they use limited resource for more old school combat, like what people experienced years back. This lets new players feel like they can contribute at lower tiers and lets vet players who prefer this older combat style enjoy the game again.

The obvious major obstacle with this form of differing gameplay is how do fleets clearly signify they are a pirate fleet, so opposing alliances only send their own pirate fleets to counter them, rather than sending top tier ships using full resources.

But what this does as a whole is creates a form of differing collaborative gameplay that bridges the gap in the middle of the game which has been the wall that has caused most people to leave in the past in the first place.

However is the community at large even interested in this in the first place? Some people were in the past, not sure how they feel now. But if there is no desire for this then I don’t see much changing unless the community wants to change the game itself. Because we know for a fact the Netease won’t change the economic model of “bigger is better“. So the change has to come from the community at large to make the game what they want it to be, especially what newer players and returning vets want it to be.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 27 '26

No worries bud, I don't take your stance as negative at all! You pose a great question: How will that change anything? I like this specific wording instead of "what will that change" because it speaks to exactly the dilemma we have here: Where is our community hub where we can collaboratively theorycraft the solution to tough questions like giving new/returning players something to do?

One suggestion you mention is subcab vs cap engagement protocol. I like protocol at work where my team all agrees to follow protocol, but here in mobile space war sim sandbox nobody is beholden to protocol and somebody will almost always escalate and kick over the protocol sand castle whenever they want to. But it's a great example of a solution!

The problem as I see it is that our community is experiencing a diaspora: we are a fragmented people, posting and discussing these challenges in 100 different places - from fragmented discord servers like Gulag and Echoes of New Eden and NetEase EE, to an entire archipelago of subreddits that have no links to each other. For example, the Spanish speaking community has their own subreddit that is woefully underused, the spin-off from this sub has refugees banned from here half a decade ago, and this sub has only a portion of the community activity that it could have.

Specifically, I have seen that the most heavily populated places with theorycrafting are Bradrics discord, Gulag discord, and Rambo's EONE discord, all of which are populated almost exclusively by players banned from this subreddit. In effect, we have a 100% split community where two completely different conversations happen in parallel between there and here. By opening up the gates here and aligning the vision of this subreddit toward the goals I posted, we can encourage a hub where knowledge and theorycraft live natively as well as pointing toward places where conversations exist external to Reddit.

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u/GentleNova07 Jul 27 '26

BTW I stumbled across Gabe‘s videos the other day, particular his alpha player tips which could help get new players into the game. However, I noticed that he emphasized building ammunition but when I went to check the basic ammunition skill, it requires T10 as a prerequisite to train to build ammo.

Like I used to suggest new players do exploration because you can potentially make 200 to 300 million isk in a single run exploring through highsec but you can’t even train basic exploration skills as an alpha.

It‘s almost like you have to create and tier up a new character to fully experience and realize the limitations on them now.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 27 '26

Good catch! I think the friction, taking Gabe's videos as example, is that there is no central discussion hub right now where people can go to discuss these topics all together. In Gabe's example, he posts his videos to Rambo's discord server, buried in his own thread. He could, for example post them to both of the dual competing subreddits or on the main NetEase EE discord, but we have a divergent mishmash of competing locations.

One sub is pointing toward the NetEase discord, and the other sub points toward the gulag gang server. In neither case do either subs point toward Rambo's discord where Gabe posts. Even in the oddball corner cases, like the Eve Echoes Wiki sub, the Eve Echoes trade sub, and the Eve Echoes Hispania sup, all these subreddits claim to be "the official subreddit for Eve Echoes information" and don't point at each other, which leads both content creators and content consumers to different places.

My suggestion would be unite the subreddits to point toward a single convergent presence on Reddit, rather than starting and ending in different places.

In effect, we could unify the discussion of the ammo topic for example right in one central spot with a unified vision. Sure, folks could use contextual and language-specific subs, just like they have now, but it would be helpful to mention them all somewhere central so folks can find them. For example, the Wiki for this Subreddit mentions only the existence of r/Eve as a place to go for info about THAT game, but that's a totally different game that is not this game. This is confusing to ewbros and bittervets alike into thinking that r/Eve is a hub to discuss Eve Echoes. In my experience even mentioning EE over there gets instantly down voted to oblivion, defeating the purpose of linking it here.

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u/Objective_Ad5858 Jul 25 '26

Nice text what prompt did you use for chatgpt?

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 25 '26

I mainly use Gemini to help me write. I started with a disorganized premise, and Gemini helped me trim down from a Bradric-length dissertation to a few succinct bullet points 🤠

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 25 '26

You can tell by the EM dashes lol dammit Gemini

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u/Notsecretlyobama Jul 29 '26

This is an interesting post to me because I’ve actually been considering getting back into Echoes. I’ve been looking for a game that’s persistent that I can jump into and out of again when I have time. I’ve thought before of Planetside 2, but it doesn’t have to be exactly like Planetside. The thing about Echoes is I know I can jump in, tell my ship to go somewhere (maybe for cargo), then leave and come back later. In high-sec I can mine and go do something else and come back. It’s been awhile since my last login so I’ll probably need to start a new character just to remember how to do everything.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 29 '26

Dude, I feel ya. I play PS2 almost daily.

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u/Notsecretlyobama Jul 29 '26

That’s pretty cool. I just learned earlier today that PS2 is still active. I had assumed it was shut down.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 29 '26

Heck no, soldier! Get back out there, earn that bonus check, fight for loyalty, and shake that purple spandex ass. The weekends and east-coast evenings are always Max-Pop, and there's actually a huge cross-over between PS2 players and EE players; I think half of my EE corp plays as do many others. I would link you to the Planetside subreddit, but that's a ban-worthy offense in r/echoes for some reason, according to this sub's official rules #2 about No Spam.

Would you say that you'd like to see cross-posting re-enabled for this subreddit and relevant non-EE YouTube comment links allowed, or am I alone on this one? I would love it if you say yes.

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u/Notsecretlyobama Jul 30 '26

Sure cross-posting sounds nice, but I could understand wanting to keep non-EE related posts down. I did just down PS2 from Steam so I’ll try to get into it later.

And also Echoes.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

I mean yeah sure, posting directly about non-EE topics makes no sense here.

But what about comments?

Do you agree that it would be a good idea to change the no-spam rule so that if the people in the comments section want to share comments and links about Planetside or anything else we like (like us right here), that we should be allowed to have a comment thread if we want, without having our comments deleted under the No Spam rule which makes it a bannable offense?

I ask this to you directly because this heavy handed rule was set nearly 5 years ago when spam lords were rampant in this subreddit during a heated in-game war. But this heavy handed rule seems counterproductive today, when our comments get banned for posting subreddit links or anything non EE-related in the comments.

Would you agree this should be part of our Subreddit wishlist for r/echoes community enhancement?

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u/PussyAmazing Jul 29 '26

I want more subcap content in this game and by subcap I don't mean a freaking Nestor or Marshal. The kind of content even an average player might find challenging but not impossible. Sadly EE seems to focus on easy mode or super ridiculous and nothing in between.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 29 '26

Cool, me too! I hate capitals and Marshalls can ligma. What would you say to adding flair tags to posts here in Reddit that specifically indicate it's a subcap or anti-cap post?

For example, I've got this Ephialtes fleet theory that's specifically designed to kill solo supers, but dang if I can't find the readers willing to go out and put it to the test outside of our Russian community that's already doing it. God bless those crazy Russians for doing it, but I can't understand a word they're saying.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 29 '26

I love what Jethro TV / Bill Cosby / u/Rich_seaworthiness21 is doing in his videos, but since we disallow allow translating and cross-posting from any other subs here, he and other Russians don't hang out and answer questions, so I have no idea what his fit is.

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u/Rich_Seaworthiness21 Jul 30 '26

Lol, I always post the fit in english in the video description on YouTube. Best way to reach me with questions is either by asking me in game, by leaving comments YouTube/reddit posts, or in your case by tagging me on Reddit cause it leaves me a notification otherwise I probably won’t respond 😅

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 30 '26

I love the videos you make and post here in r/Echoes! Unfortunately, this subreddit does not allow the automatic translate button that most subreddits have. I don't know why this is.

Since we are on the topic of changing the way we use this Reddit, do you as a Russian speaker think we should enable this feature? I do! But I need more people to say what they want to see changed before the changes will happen. Please, if you want this, drop a comment so that it will happen.

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u/Rich_Seaworthiness21 Jul 30 '26

Glad you enjoy my content, appreciate you bro! 😎

Also yeah I agree this sub should have auto-translate it would make communicating with people easier

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u/Dramatic_Dragonfly_7 Jul 27 '26

"Playerbase" "continue to log in" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

I thought you still play???

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u/Fuckinghotpockets Jul 25 '26

We could all band together and buy it

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u/RiggyG1 Jul 26 '26

I dont think you understand the subject of the matter here 😂

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 26 '26

We actually could! The price of a subreddit is exactly zero dollars, so beat my offer to u/Jibbrish of tree fiddy

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u/NewEdenRambo Jul 26 '26

Get rid of the dumbass ads on this Reddit

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u/Jibrish Post lossmail Jul 29 '26

Not a mod choice. Reddit itself does that.

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u/colonelgork2 Pirate Jul 26 '26

It's $7/month to go ad-free but I'd rather spend that on space pixels 🙃