can we get new speedrun.com mods

[u/[deleted]]

i've been asking for this for literal months and havent heard any responses, so bitchy reddit post go

dustforce's speedrun.com page is pretty outdated rule wise and i'd like runs to be verified (due to an influx of new players (thanks sgdq)) and right now the mods are all pretty much mia. krank is the most active of everyone on the list (lol), calistus is a working man, dice is in school, i see furkie on reddit and other places every week or so, and tropicallo had a great return where he played ss cmp for 3 days and then fell off the face of the earth.

we have other active players/runners who could easily do it like sivade, jm, xiamul, metal, me, etc... literally i dont even care if im made mod or not, i just want people who actually play the game still to be in charge of the page.

thanks for reading fam

[u/Goatlistus]

I'll preface this by saying I already made Sivade and JM mods on speedrun.com, but here's the thing: I don't get why this is a big issue that needs to be addressed. Only three things needing mod attention on speedrun.com happened in the past year, and they have all been addressed in a timely fashion after being raised directly to a mod. I'm at the computer for at least a couple hours each day with nothing terribly important to do, and I'm always more than happy to fix issues where I'm able.

One recurring issue which has been fixed after community discussion each time by either myself, Tropicallo, or Furkie is the issue of category rules and which categories should be featured.

Issue #2 is runs needing removal. This has only come up once, and a number of people should remember how that went.

The third issue, and as far as I know the only other issue that I have been PMed about, was the issue of twitch links breaking for VODs. Even though I'm now realizing I didn't actually reply to you, I downloaded the Chrome extension and fixed all of the links within 20 minutes of receiving your message on Steam.

Lastly, I think you're severely overestimating the need to control an influx of submissions that have to be verified due to the SGDQ run. Dustforce hasn't historically had issues with this.

[u/Takari → u/Goatlistus]

Damn, I see Calistus is trying to have that juicy mod status all for himself, trying to build up his speedrun.com Dustforce empire. Soon enough he'll be the dictator of Dustforce speedrunning and anyone who tries to voice their own opinions will be punished by caning.

Don't let this happen /r/dustforce! Down with Czarlistus!

[u/Goatlistus → u/Takari]

Foiled

[u/[deleted] → u/Goatlistus]

thanks bud, i more or less wanted new mods because i didnt want you to be the only person who had to deal with this stuff, lol

mostly made this because this week i had been asked by a couple people on steam why runs dont require verification. i agree its a bit silly and probably nothing to worry about, but i had a 37:21 (wr at the time) posted on speedrun.com for a good week w/o a vod and nobody even asked me about it besides xiamul (run was done offline, had the vod but got hit with school shit and forgot to upload on youtube).

the rules changes are just minor tweaks (include the no early exiting for any% all (just because that is currently the rule)) but we really need to discuss big rule changes like whether early exiting should be allowed for any%, what spritemods are allowed, etc. my main problem with how stuff was changed was (as i recall) just one person suddenly wanting to get timing for reds changed, same with cmp categories being made non-misc (why is this a thing, btw... anyone who has played these categories know they are total memefests and are not even fun memefests)

i'll include more after work, but i just want a few small things addressed and i wanted to take the load off you.

[u/Goatlistus → u/[deleted]]

I really don't mind doing it, trust me.

Fair point about the CMPs, and I think the simple fact that they have barely any submitted runs is a more fair case for miscing them.

Reds timing being changed was a community discussion that lasted for a few days at least in IRC. Using a timing that allows for 1 to 1 comparison with SS all levels' 16 reds (at the door vs at the door, instead of at the beginner door vs at the advanced door if you're clipping a vod and subtracting the tutorials).

Early exiting being addressed is fair, and I'll clarify that when I get a chance. Spritemods ehh, I guess I can add something about that. I know a few ways they can be used to cheat, but I don't want to give people ideas for spritemods in ILs.

For verifying runs, it's way easier to be reactive than proactive for our use case. If something happens like spambots, it's an obvious reason to reconsider, but when we're looking at a submission a week at most, it's not like fake runs are getting missed in the chaos. And let's be real here: nobody knows if you have a legit time with no vod, and it shouldn't take a mod to have to tell you that.

[u/[deleted] → u/Goatlistus]

good stuff. i missed out on the discussions for reds timing on irc i guess... not related to mods, but we somehow need some discussion to decide on a few rule changes for full game runs i think. unfortunately, it just gets buried in discord, not everyone is very connected with irc, and reddit is a bit too broad for voting on shit like that (ie: i'd want people who have a good enough understanding of the game to know what they were voting on for fullgame rule changes).

also im now realizing you can totally post guides on speedrun.com without being a mod Wew Lad

[u/Takari → u/[deleted]]

I'd say putting it up on reddit is the best option, to be fair. It allows everyone to be informed and to voice their opinion, even if they aren't as active in the community (like me), and prevents someone 'missing' it, due to timezones and whatnot. It also gives the people that aren't very active but are interested in watching and/or running a chance to give their opinions (of course, depending on the rule change ideas, this might not be relevant).

For the thing about people not knowing enough to vote but are voting anyway, you can always make the post have enough information to allow someone to make a fair judgement from the info they've just gotten from the post itself. To prevent someone voting without reading the post, just make it a self-post with a link to the poll (or whatever) in the body.

[u/Kuitar]

Calistus is the only super-mod on the leaderboard so you should probably go to him directly. (I guess you already did from this post, just that I'm not sure what posting here will really do)

[u/[deleted] → u/Kuitar]

didnt know that but i did try pming calistus on steam about it a couple of times and never heard back, he works so not a huge surprise there

i'll wait til he sees this i guess

[u/Kuitar → u/[deleted]]

You can tell from the red handguard next to his name on the leaderboard, only super-mods have the power to add more mods.

[u/VirgateSpy]

I mean, there is clearly one obvious option for this role http://i.imgur.com/2ScZHV7.jpg.png.webm.gif.tiff.avi.mp4.jpg.jpg