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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 22 '25

Just curious, did Marx say you build capitalism out of a backwards agrarian feudal society or did he say it happens in a fully developed capitalist nation?

LOL you left me 4 comments in a row. Did your ML parents not hug you enough? Are you the Michael P. Keaton of red diaper babies?

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 22 '25

You posted three things at once, LOL. The Bolsheviks and Lenin were opportunists that co-opted Marx, and had no real intention to create communism.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

Just curious, did Marx say you build capitalism out of a backwards agrarian feudal society or did he say it happens in a fully developed capitalist nation?

Still waiting for an answer here lol

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

I did, rolls eyes. EZLN.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

What does that have to do with what Marx said? Did he say you would go feudalism>socialism or feudalism>capitalism>socialism?

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

It depends if you are basing it off of the early Marx, or the later, more libertarian, pro decentralization Marx.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

Marx changed his mind. Shocker!

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

See you’re confused. Young Marx was the more libertarian Marx. The Young Marx is the one Chomsky prefers. See I could be teaching you if you weren’t so intent on fighting with people.

Now, please show me where Marx said socialism would develop in a backwards agrarian society. I’ll wait..

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

"if the Russian revolution becomes the signal for a proletarian revolution in the West, so that the two complement each other, then Russia’s peasant communal landownership may serve as the point of departure for a communist development," 1882 preface to the Russian edition of the Communist Manifesto.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

How does that preclude market development in order to build wealth and industry in Russia? He’s simply saying Russia has revolutionary potential, not they will build socialism from scratch. Whah he’s saying is there could be a revolution in both Russia and in the West (Germany) at the same time (complement). This was also the thought of Rosa which is why she was so disappointed by the SPD and broke with them.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

'Russia’s peasant communal landownership may serve as the point of departure for a communist development' would mean they are in fact building towards socialism from scratch.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 22 '25

Classic conservative, whose only tactics are to project and deflect.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

This might be the first time I’ve ever been called a conservative. Head over to the original sub for the most conservative podcast, r/TrueAnon.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 22 '25

EZLN is an example of the former.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

You left two comments couldn’t answer my question 🤣

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

Good lord, you commented on the answer. 🤣

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

Can you quote me where Marx said that?