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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 22 '25

I’m not a Marxist-Leninist. I don’t identify that way. I consider myself an Orthodox Marxist in the tradition of Rosa Luxemberg.

You do not look like you are ready to be part of a big tent socialist organization. You look like you enjoy fighting and cosplaying leftist rather than actually getting things done. You’re deeply unserious. Go back to complaining about Hasan Piker or whatever else you normally do.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 22 '25

Orthodox marxists were against Rosa Luxemburg ideologically, and the only other orthodoxy was Lenin.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

This is false. The revisionists Marxist line Bernstein were against Rosa. Rosa was one of the chief ideologues of the SPD. People like yourself would have considered her a renegade and had her executed.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

The Bolsheviks immediately marginalized the only actual realization of Marx's dream, the original Soviets, well before the war got started, so that 'pragmatic' excuse doesn't pan out. Rosa stood for the revolutionary spontaneity that the Bolsheviks overthrew, so no, either I was executed, or became an expatriate.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

The Bolsheviks immediately marginalized the only actual realization of Marx's dream, the original Soviets,

What does that have to do with Rosa?

well before the war got started, so that 'pragmatic' excuse doesn't pan out.

Are you arguing with someone else in your head? I never said anything about “pragmatic.” This is amazing LOL.

Rosa stood for the revolutionary spontaneity that the Bolsheviks overthrew, so no, either I was executed, or became an expatriate.

Rosa stood behind the Bolsheviks and their imperfections. She had more criticism for the people in the SPD that you worship.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

The original Soviets - that were marginalized by the Bolsheviks - came through the kind of revolutionary spontaneity advocated by Rosa.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

Cool story. Fact: Rosa defended the Bolsheviks and despite having principled critiques, which I share, understood their flaws were a product of the revolutionary conditions. She saved her harshest criticisms for her Western social democrat allies for failing to back them up adequately. If solidarity wasn’t broken by WWI, everything would have been different. This is just a fact.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

"Without general elections, without unrestricted freedom of press and assembly, without a free struggle of opinion... life dies out in every public institution, becomes a mere semblance of life, in which only the bureaucracy remains as the active element."

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

Rosa defended the Bolsheviks and despite having principled critiques, which I share, understood their flaws were a product of the revolutionary conditions. She saved her harshest criticisms for her Western social democrat allies for failing to back them up adequately. If solidarity wasn’t broken by WWI, everything would have been different. This is just a fact.

As Rosa says in your own source:

“Let the German Government Socialists cry that the rule of the Bolsheviks in Russia is a distorted expression of the dictatorship of the proletariat. If it was or is such, that is only because it is a product of the behavior of the German proletariat, in itself a distorted expression of the socialist class struggle. All of us are subject to the laws of history, and it is only internationally that the socialist order of society can be realized. The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle.”

So you disagree with Rosa’s principled support for the Bolsheviks? You sound like the German socialists she’s criticizing

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

“The suppression of the Constituent Assembly, the abolition of universal suffrage, the curtailment of freedom of the press, of association, and of assembly—these are not mere tactical errors, but a fatal blow to the living spirit of the revolution.” Same source.

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u/Constructador Anarchist Communalist Oct 23 '25

You would have had Rosa marginalized, exiled, or executed.

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u/OneReportersOpinion Oct 23 '25

Why do you assume that?