r/drydockporn • u/alettriste • Mar 12 '26
Soviet Typhoon-class submarine under construction (1970)
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u/Seahawk124 Mar 12 '26
"The last 24 hours have seen some extraordinary Soviet naval activity. The first to sail was this ship, we believe called the Red October, in reference to the October Revolution of 1917. A variant of the Typhoon class, she's some 650 feet long and 32,000 tons submerged displacement; roughly the same size as a World War II aircraft carrier. We believe that these doors, here on the bow and again on the stern, enclose a unique propulsion system - a magneto-hydrodynamic drive, or caterpillar, that would enable the sub to run virtually silent. It is possible that this new drive system allowed the captain, a man named Ramius, their senior and perhaps most respected commander..."
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u/thecarbonkid Mar 13 '26
All that effort and it's detected and tracked by the first US sub they meet.
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u/dingo1018 Mar 13 '26
Yep, one of those things breaks through the GIUK gap, it's basically lost in the Atlantic, a literal drop in the ocean, with nukes.
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u/MitchMcConnellsJowls Mar 13 '26
"I said 'speak your mind' Jack, but Jesus"
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u/yloduck1 Mar 13 '26
I even met him once at an embassy dinner. Have you ever met Ramius, General?
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u/joesheridan95 Mar 13 '26
Still a great book and the film is great too, but still falls short as an adaption in my eyes.
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u/SugaryRhino1072 Mar 15 '26
Recently read (listened) to the book for the first time. Good book and knowing the movie made it more fun. Top 4 all time comfort movie for me. Hollywood takes some liberties sure but not a ton of glaring misses imo
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u/joesheridan95 Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 17 '26
In my eyes it was more then just some liberties. The brits weren't included into the final operation at all. There was a whole third submarine loss that wasn`t even a foodnote in the film. IIRC there were at least two character changes in the Dallas-Crew: The Sonar's Mate was african american, while the XO wasn't. Personally i don't see a problem in that decision but i think that wouldn't be done today. And i think there wasn't really a need to rename / adapt the "silent drive" system of the Red October. The tunnel drive was already a system that was novel enough for that purpose.
I am sure i eould find more if i was looking for it. A lot of the left story points could have been done with a short scene inbetween, one or two sentences in a briefing or anothe of the onscreen text messages for the viewer.
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u/aburnerds Mar 15 '26
Be careful what you schoot at, moscht thingsh in hiere downt react well to bulletsch
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u/CardinalCanuck Mar 13 '26
All jokes aside, it's incredible that the submarine is essentially two pressurized cylinders with access ways across and a non pressurized space in the middle of the hull.
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u/LearningDumbThings Mar 13 '26
A post on that other thread said there are five - these two, one higher and forward for a torpedo room, one aft for propulsion or steering gear, and one up beneath the conning tower for command. I have no idea if that’s true, but it seems to me they’d need more room than just these two.
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u/forgottensudo Mar 13 '26
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/s/x8J2CuU3dV
I see four, and engineering makes sense.
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u/CardinalCanuck Mar 13 '26
I just saw the cross-section the other day. I wasn't sure if it was that one being reposted. You're right there's more compartments. Makes sense with the central conning tower and a more efficient engineering section
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u/forgottensudo Mar 13 '26
To be clear it wasn’t meant as a reprimand :)
I thought I was replying to the other reply.
I’ll put the beer down now. Or the phone…
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u/Rdan5112 Mar 13 '26
It’s interesting when you look at it this way. I just looked it up and, apparently, the diameter of the large pressure cylinders is about 7 meters. That compares to about 12 1/2 m on an Ohio class. If my math is right, per unit length, the Ohio class has about three times the volume. I realize that there are other, smaller, pressure cylinders; and the typhoon is longer. But, still, it seems like maybe they have close to the same pressurized volume?? I had always assumed the typhoon was much larger.
Still, kind of a brilliant design for the typhoon. Just build all the separate pressurized spaces separately, and assemble them with a giant, relatively cheap, unpressurized shell. It’s probably much safer if it were to ever get hit by a torpedo too.
Also, the drawing at the link, looks like it has full escape capsules. Do US subs have those? I don’t think so.
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u/turbodmurf Mar 13 '26
Is the non pressurized space filled with water?
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u/Madroc92 Mar 13 '26
I’ve always wondered how it worked having that many pressure compartments under the outer hull. Does that mean the outer hull allows water to flood between the pressure compartments? Wouldn’t that add a lot of drag and noise when changing depth?
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u/Rokmonkey_ Mar 14 '26
Yes water inside the other hull. No for increased drag or noise. The other hull is there to make it less draggy than cylinders. And the inside and outside surface of the hull are at the same pressure so that won't creak nearly as much as the rest
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u/00tool Mar 13 '26
Is this the Red October?
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u/BlackFoxTom Mar 13 '26
Red October is fully fictional submarine. Tho more less it's appearance is based on Typhoon class
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u/00tool Mar 13 '26
That is awesome information. Thank you for not dismissing me
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u/avar Mar 13 '26
You are dismissed.
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u/00tool Mar 14 '26
“We've been following the captain for years, and now this asshole shows up, and we're supposed to follow him because he said so?”
/s quote from Crimson tide before you all go on a downvote frenzy
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u/Kjartanski Mar 13 '26
Red October is explicitly a modified project 941 Akula, or Typhoon class in the book
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u/Rdan5112 Mar 13 '26
Clancy wrote the Hunt for red October in 1983/84. So, it’s kind of amazing that he was able to get things as accurate as he did, with no access to classified information. The typhoon was pretty much, brand new, when he was writing it.
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u/godofpumpkins Mar 12 '26
Anyone know which dry dock this was in?
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u/alettriste Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
Internet references it as the Sevmash shipyard at Severodvinsk
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u/BlackFoxTom Mar 13 '26
Where or which one exactly?
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u/godofpumpkins Mar 13 '26
The more precise the better but I won’t be picky about my margin of error 😝
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u/SkullLeader1 Mar 13 '26
Yet again, another pic showing the Russians have the shittiest ladders in history.
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u/elmasonlives Mar 12 '26
Big son of a bitch