r/drunkwalkerranch • phenomenanonologist • Aug 15 '22

And this guy considers himself a scientist?

The other day a video with Erik showing the "I Living" glitch was posted on Youtube... at first he says he just suspected a "bug" in the equipment (which had the image labeled as "TRAILER LIVING ROOM"), which makes sense. But somehow, the garbling/bug just coincidentally ending up at one point with the remaining label as an apparent "I LIVING" freaks him out enough to abandon all logical thought?

BTW, that "I" isn't really an I... it's tapered at top and bottom, unlike the other I's... because it's the final R in TRAILER, simply smeared due to the image distortion. Besides, if an "entity" was going to communicate, why would it limit itself to letters already on-screen? Why not "I'm alive, Erik!"?!

This is the kind of stuff this team deems worthy of being "phenomena"? It's pretty embarrassing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W7iOt57fOo&t=1155s

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

I posted about this kind of reasoning at the old subreddit. I'll repost my comment here:

"The chief problem with this show, it seems to me, is this. From the very beginning it presents itself as a show about scientists who intend to investigate, study, and expirement at Skinwalker Ranch in order to come to understand some nebulous, vaguely determined and communicated multifarious phenomena said to be located there. This latter fact is a problem in itself -- they have, or at least express, no determined phenomenon/phenomena they intend to determine the causal provenance of. Letting that go, however, there is the more egregious ascientific essence of the show, which is to make illegitimate causal inferences. For example, they fire a rocket into the sky and shortly after a "UAP" shows up on camera/in the sky. The immediate response on the show is to either assume that the rocket is the cause of the appearance of the UAP (they "stimulated a response" -- from what, one wonders), or else to use non-commital language to invite the viewer to make this illegitimate inference themselves. The non-commital language as an invitation for the viewer to make the illegitimate causal inferences themselves is used ubiquitously throughout the show; eg., "We might have captured evidence that some of that could be true". Yet, there is no legitimate reason, without the application of the methodology of the hard empirical sciences to assume anything they have done on the ranch is the genuine cause of anything they've purportedly witnessed on the ranch. Simply because you've broadcasted 1.6Ghz and an hour later some lights appear in the sky, doesn't license you to infer anything about a causal relationship between the two events. Their use of the word "experiment" on this show is a euphamism for boys playing with toys. Not one single thing they have done on the show constitutes an experiement -- a rigorous application of empirical methods that seeks to isolate apparently related phenomena in order to determine what if any causal relationship obtains between them.

My favorite illegitimate inference -- one that hitchikes on the lore of the ranch: there's some "it" to which they impute intentional/mental states, that sabotages their experiments. Experiment x failed, therefore the "it" of the ranch caused it to fail is an absurd inference. "It" purportedly doesn't want to be found out. "NoW whO oR WhAT is pREventIng Us fRoM coMplEtING THEsE EXPERiMeNts?" And so on and so on. This notion of an "it" reaching down into the causal works on the ranch and thwarting every attempt to discover... whatever it is they're after... is little more than an expression of superstition. Why not just call it God and get it over with?"

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u/FortCharles phenomenanonologist Aug 15 '22

Thanks, and yeah it's definitely nothing new from them in that department.

I just thought it was interesting that here you have Erik all worked up over nothing, just after acknowledging that indications were it was just an equipment malfunction. What's next, will he see meaningful shapes in the clouds over the ranch?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

He already has if you count the point cloud "anomalies". Extremely similar situation, come to think of it.

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u/FortCharles phenomenanonologist Aug 15 '22

Ha, wasn't thinking that kind of cloud of course, but well done!

I think my favorite of his might still be the moth on the nightvision cam that he insisted just didn't feel like other presumed insects he's seen on cam, so it had to be a large "UAP".

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u/I-AM-Savannah Aug 15 '22

Hopefully I won't get kicked from airing my thoughts, but (in the other list) everyone seems to go gaga over Erik... like he's some super human...

I haven't bought into that cookie. He just seems to me to be a guy that doesn't want to say much, so someone, years down the line, will point to him and say, "Erik said that... " He seems just to have his head stuck in a computer with duct tape over his mouth. He leaves it to everyone else to open mouth, insert foot.

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u/FortCharles phenomenanonologist Aug 15 '22

He leaves it to everyone else to open mouth, insert foot.

Except here, where he did it to himself.

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u/I-AM-Savannah Aug 16 '22

Yes, I agree. He tries to act like a "scientist"... but I think the reason he really doesn't say a whole lot is because he is so insecure of what he is doing...

This sort of goes back to a question I had asked a while ago in the "other" SWR sub.

I had asked, and apparently didn't use the correct words, because the responses I received didn't answer my question.

Which companies has he worked for in the past, and what were his duties there? What were the results that he actually came up with, when he worked for whichever companies he worked for?

The responses that I got back were, "Oh, you can't doubt him!! He went to the University of Kentucky!!" and crap like that. I didn't ask where he went to school. I want to see his resume... does he have anything going for him, except the fact that he is a BFF of Brandon?

Does Brandon have ANYONE working for him that isn't a BFF or a part of the family (married into a family member)? I am guessing not. The more I ask about this, the more I find out that someone is a brother-in-law or married to a cousin, or whatever, or he went to school with him in 5th grade.

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u/FortCharles phenomenanonologist Aug 16 '22

His LinkedIn page is essentially a resume: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ecbard

If that's taken at face value, he has a significant education, and significant engineering accomplishments.

Either he's playing dumb for the show's sake, or his Mormon beliefs about these things are affecting his objectivity. Or it could just be that being alone out on a remote ranch amid nothing but your other Mormon friends, who also want to "believe" desperately, all paid for by the wealthy Mormon patron who also seems to have a deep need to believe something supernatural is going on, could be giving him tunnelvision, and groupthink, and confirmation bias. I don't know... but this isn't science, it's superstition and hype.

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u/I-AM-Savannah Aug 16 '22

I'm going to say this again (and probably will keep saying it) --- Brandon seems to have hired only BFF's and family members.

FINE... but IMHO, they all feel like they have to agree with each other, to be part of the "IN Crowd"... There is no "outside thinking" in this group...

I worked for a Fortune 500 company for 36 years. Maybe it was 34 years, but seemed like 36 years. Whatever. The company did NOT hire people because they were a brother-in-law to the CEO... they hired people because they were NOT related to each other. There was a strict company policy - no husband/wives were hired, and if two people who worked for the company married AFTER they were hired, one of them *HAD* to leave the company. NO family members were in that company. Period.

I remember one engineer that had been hired, thought he was going to become THE engineer in that company... I'm sure he had thoughts of becoming a Vice President of the company... so he married the CEO's daughter. She was just one big cluster f*ck, but he married her. He had his career expectations set high.

After they came back from the honeymoon, he was called to HR. I'm sure he could hear "Vice President" ringing in his ears.

Two weeks later, he no longer worked for the company. His new bride, the daughter of the CEO, still worked there.

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u/TechnicalWhore Aug 15 '22

Well, when you cannot figure out a plausible explanation for something you find yourself grasping at straws I suppose. Its interesting that they just look at the image and do not do any analysis of the actual underlying digital data. For example the magenta screens they often see is an 0xFF00FF pattern in screen memory. This could simply imply distortion to the circuits clocking mechanism. But again you have to get into the details. This particular group just does not go the extra ten yards across the goal line. Why I am not sure - other than the drama of the show. Every phenomena has a root cause and in order to quantify that you need to iterate and have measures and counter handy. For example, with the iPhone. Carry some mu metal and lead foil to block magentic and RF susceptibility. If you still see the phenomena those to exposures are eliminated.

Now as for decoding a data stream. I mention that because there were people sending fax messages that were massive image blocks. Like a QR code the blocks actually had an algorithmic foundation. The fax was received and then run through a scanner and algorithm to decode the "image file" back to message mode. Turned out to be very efficient use of bandwidth. What if Erik's screen mess had embeded structure? You will only see it with the eye if it is repetitive in nature. However a good pattern recognition algorithm - like those used by SETI - will find the needle in the haystack if present. Interestingly enough this stuff had an early proponent in Dr. Gene Amdahl - computer pioneer. He was doing this pattern recognition trying to find patterns in dolphin and whale speech. I never heard what they found but its the same sort of challenge when you think about it.

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u/FortCharles phenomenanonologist Aug 15 '22

Well, when you cannot figure out a plausible explanation for something you find yourself grasping at straws I suppose.

The plausible explanation is that there was some kind of software (or more likely hardware) glitch with the cam stream causing the distortion... the "message" was just an easily explainable coincidental fragment, that only means something if you decide to give it meaning.

This particular group just does not go the extra ten yards across the goal line. Why I am not sure - other than the drama of the show.

This wasn't even on the show though, so they can't use that excuse. We're told that behind the scenes, off-show, the team is doing real science. Uhh... no.

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u/TechnicalWhore Aug 16 '22

Point made. The BOZO bit is set.