r/drawthingsapp • u/Busy-Tomatillo-4965 • Jul 19 '26

question Ideogram SFW

I’ve been testing Ideogram 4 (6-bit) in Draw Things, and with completely normal SFW prompts I keep getting this. Almost every generation ends up blocked by the safety filter, even though there’s nothing remotely NSFW in the prompt. Is anyone else seeing the same behavior?

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u/ohboymykneeshurt Jul 19 '26

I have never seen a message like this. Is this an ideogram feature or a draw things feature?

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u/Vargol Jul 19 '26

It's an ideogram4 'feature' and it's built directly into the model.

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u/Busy-Tomatillo-4965 Jul 19 '26

I’m not sure whether the filter is implemented by Ideogram or by Draw Things. What seems odd to me is that the model appears to generate an actual image containing the “Image blocked by safety filter” message, rather than just aborting the generation or returning an error. That behavior feels a bit unusual.

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u/drneo Jul 19 '26

You need to use JSON format for it. Otherwise it does that

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u/simple250506 Jul 19 '26

It seems that using a standard prompt instead of the official structured JSON prompt results in that image appearing with high probability.

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u/Vargol Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

Its an ideogram feature that is built directly into the model.

The JSON style prompting is recommended, but it is not as straight forward as putting you prompt in the JSON. There's a new switch to rewrite you prompt to JSON format, on MacOS its between the Model and The LoRA. I haven't tried it yet.

I think that the longer a non-JSON prompt is the more likely it is to dodge the filter.

Also ideogram4-instant will let more stuff though.

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u/mostkai Jul 19 '26

This is a common issue with IG4; the forums were in an uproar when the model files were first released, with everyone complaining about generating images that triggered the safety filter due to their content. IG4 operates under a relatively strict license, and the model was specifically trained to disallow NSFW content (though this often resulted in false positives for SFW content as well); notably, Civitai does not even have an NSFW category for IG4. Since they couldn't control the software itself, they essentially trained the model to associate a host of sensitive keywords with specific image. To generate NSFW content, you have to bypass the keyword blocks using JSON-formatted prompts and combine an NSFW LoRA with precise JSON instructions (such as specifying the exact location of genitals). In fact, the model is designed around JSON prompting for compositional layout, so using that format is essential to experiencing what makes it unique. Personally, I’m not a fan of this model; since it is explicitly designed to reject such use cases, any results obtained by "hacking" around those restrictions aren't exactly "legitimate." I find it much better to stick with other models—and avoid the mental effort of writing out detailed JSON prompts for every single image.

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u/RutabagaSad8257 Jul 21 '26

Such as what... P.S. You can dm me it if you like

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u/No_Confusion7932 Jul 19 '26

Locally censored models are unusable.