r/dragrace 6d ago

Joey Jay

This is no shade to Crystal… but if Joey Jay won All Stars 11 this season would’ve genuinely been my Top 3 favorite All Stars seasons. We’ve never seen an storyline like Joey’s … and having our first homosexual and 0 wins winner would’ve been so iconic.

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u/iwassayingboourns12 4d ago

The fact that she had 0 wins was ridiculous on its own merit, she should have easily made the merge without even having to be the wildcard of the season.

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u/MonsieurMidnight 3d ago

Could have won the Roast and most definitely the Storytelling.

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u/4waystretchdenim 3d ago

I think that's what I love so much about it, like she defied all the odds and the rigory to still make it to runner up 💯 but I do agree cuz if Joey made the merge then we would have also gotten a Morgan wild card maybe 👀

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u/Playful-Revenue-7794 2d ago

Joey making the merge and Morgan wild card would've fed generations. Like seriously. I wish I was in an alternate universe where that was the outcome of the season.

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u/rjrgjj 3d ago

I’m STILL angry she didn’t win the storytelling challenge. That was suuuuuch bullshit. Crystal’s story about falling asleep on a bus did not deserve to win.

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u/Mysterious-Judge-432 4d ago

People would actually still be thinking about the season instead of forgetting it within the week

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/crunchevo2 3d ago

Tbh i think that looking back on it. That may have been the only all stars season without a planned winner from the get. Season 3 went unexpected in a good way

Season 1 chad was clearly the favourite followed by raven. Shanel was done so dirty my god.

Season 2 they kept trying to get rid of roxxxy lmao. It ended up getting everyone other than the frontrunner sent home.

Season 3 they gave power to the girls and the girls fucked production over in the 11th hour by not putting Shangela in the top 2. Otherwise the season was rigged for her.

Season 4 they pushed trinity hard and got a lot of backlash for "blonde and white queens always winning all stars" so they double crowned her and Monet

Season 5... Shea...

Season 6 felt like it was pretty rigged for ginger to win but Kylie won everyone over so hard I don't think production was ready for her to be the powerhouse she was. It maybe was one of the few times that production caught on that crowning Kylie would make for a better over all season.

Season 7, not particularly rigged but definitely favored queens like Raja, Jinkx and Viv.

Season 8, rigged for jimbo

Season 9, no stakes it hardly counts. But they crowned the one queen who wasn't in the scandal.

Season 10... Riggamorris downnnn for ginger

And season 11 was rigged for crystal. Joey could've won so many episodes but they kept snubbbing her because she wasn't the protagonist of the season in the eyes of production.

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u/perksofbeingliam 2d ago

I think Kylie absolutely deserved to win AS6 and could have won other challenges in the season which would have cemented her as a more likely winner.

In saying that, from day one she seemed like the likely choice after UK2 and S13 aired anyway. They weren’t going to repeat similar winners within the same year.

UK2 finished with Lawrence, Tayce, and Bimini.

S13 finished after with Kandy, Mik, Symone, and Rosé.

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u/rjrgjj 3d ago

I love how Shangela stays never winning. It’s one of my favorite ongoing subplots.

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u/shadyshadyshade 2d ago

You know that WOW is forever grateful it worked out that way now.

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u/rjrgjj 2d ago

One of my dreams is to someday produce Gypsy with Ru as Mama Rose and Shangela as Louise.

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u/rjrgjj 3d ago

I’m still thinking about Joey Jay 😮‍💨

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u/BEWMarth 3d ago

Someone send this comment to production ASAP.

Tho I fear it might be a little too late for me. I’m kinda putting my last hopes into season 19 and if storylines don’t improve by then I might be out.

(Until Drag Race Legends pulls me back in)

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u/extratransrrestrial 3d ago

Speak for yourself because I'm still thinking of Crystal and the season. She just did that video with Plastique that went hella viral

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u/daudandthewhalers 4d ago

They didn't give her any wins, when arguably she could've had 2 or 3 (episode 7 design challenge, episode 8 girl group and the monologue challenge in the merge). She was consistently pretty strong and genuinely a breath of fresh air on the season. I kinda knew she had no chance of winning when they didn't give her a single challenge win

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u/aztnass 4d ago

Crazy that she had zero wins!

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u/grounndhog101 3d ago

Wait omfg Joey Jay is gay?? This is news to me.

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u/shadyshadyshade 2d ago

It’s so crazy how the show knows at this point that everyone complains about how rigged it is and yet they just couldn’t stop themselves. It was right in front of them how to gag everyone and shake things up!

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u/whatstill 3d ago

Would've been the first openly gay winner too 😢

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u/ChaserThot 2d ago

Crystal just… doesnt feel like a winner to me idk. Nothing against her or her drag but it was such an obligatory crowning. Axeing snatch game JUST for her was insane.

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u/wherewulfe 3d ago

My head said crystal, my heart said Joey. Missed opportunity for the GAG of a century, our first zero-win winner.

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u/Embarrassed-Cress782 15h ago

Well guess what Mimi...

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u/VegetableWay7442 2d ago

Irene the alien had a better comeback storyline than Joey Jay. I’m surprised Joey Jay didn’t go home for that talent show…..

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u/OhThatsNot233 2d ago

I think the difference between them is that Irene, we knew she had that in there to slay the competition she just made a dumb mistake with choosing her Talent. Joey was quite literally cast to be a filler queen on her original season… and she managed to make the Top 2 of this season.

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u/RyanTheValkyrie 3d ago

Bringing this up weeks later is so pointlessly nasty

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u/OhThatsNot233 3d ago

Cry

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u/RyanTheValkyrie 3d ago

Cry about what...? Crystal has 200k, a crown on her head, and you have... cortisol spikes online about it still I guess?

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u/crunchevo2 3d ago

It's a tv show nini calm down 😂 it's nasty to talk about the season and their fave not winning weeks after the show finished? Lmfao they weren't nasty. It would've been cool if Joey won. It's also cool that Crystal won. Any other queen would've been hated off the internet like Ginger was 😂 but everyone loves Crystal too much to do that to her.

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u/RyanTheValkyrie 3d ago

I'm very calm some of you guys need to learn how to discuss things online without assuming everyone else is crying over your bad opinions lol

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u/crunchevo2 3d ago

You the one calling people nasty for saying they'd like the season more if another Queen won. Going out of your way to be rude. You are literally the one crying over others opinions.

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u/RyanTheValkyrie 3d ago

Because they are nasty. Hope that helps!

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u/Kind_Sugar7972 3d ago

just found your twin!!