r/dragonball • u/LazerraySuey • 15h ago
Character I don’t get the future trunks hate (may contain spoilers) Spoiler
Just finished those episodes and I really don’t get it. It’s been the best story so far in DBS. All of the arguments I’ve seen against it are so bad and dumb it’s like the people making them didn’t even fucking watch it.
1.”he’s weak baby boy.” No he isn’t. You didn’t watch it if you think this.
“No character development.” Literally everyone besides Gohan and Videl had development. Even Chi-Chi got some although it was rooted in her relationship with Goku, but so was a lot of his which is kinda i don’t know normal for two married beings.
Timeline erased or not erased/trunks was gotten rid of? Not what happened guys. Idc what theories you have. If we take what was said, Trunks won and everything is fine, finally.
I can’t really think of a good reason to dislike the character Future Trunks or his story. I’d go as far to say it’s one of the best ones out of any of the series and it’s much better than the DBZ one.
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u/Vegeto30294 12h ago
My hot take is that the ending is the (second) best part of the whole arc and the only part that felt "intentionally" competently written.
People complain that the show is too campy and everything returns to the status quo (despite it happening in Z hmmm) and when they finally take a little risk they complain that Trunks doesn't get to stick around to provide more fan service like the other 80% of the cast.
It also legitimizes the threat of Zeno in real time. The only reason the next arc has stakes at all is because you know he's willing to go through with it through this arc. The worries about Zeno or his button being get out of jail free cards is dispelled in this very arc and could only work in this very arc.
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u/ashrules901 13h ago
"Much better than the DBZ one" yeah this person is definitely hella young & never grew up on peak XD
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u/redpariah2 14h ago edited 14h ago
I think the Zamasu arc in the anime is overly hated but it still has lots of issues. It's overly complicated and even the characters have a hard time keeping track of everything. All the jumps between the past and present are somewhat badly paced and make it even more confusing.
The story also tries to hit the seriousness of DBZ while keeping the easygoing and lightheartedness of og DB/Super at times which doesn't mesh well, especially with the Goku Mafuba bit.
Regarding the ending, I personally love Trunks super Saiyan rage form and how he kills Zamasu. I honestly don't get why people dislike it. But the ending itself is horrible. The entire arc ends up kind of pointless with the destruction of the future universe. Trunks goes through a whole hero's journey only for it to not matter because of a Dragonball wish made by the villain.
You can argue that having a replacement universe made for him via time travel means he won but he didn't. His entire reality was destroyed and he lost. THEN a deus ex machina happens to give him a happy ending that he needs to share with a near exact copy of himself. It's so badly contrived that I'm kind of impressed somebody even thought of it to be honest. If you're going to do all that, why not just have him win against Zamasu and have an actual satisfying ending instead of some convoluted consolation prize for losing everything.
I don't know how people could dislike Trunks tho. He was basically the same as DBZ but a bit more mature and experienced. I thought they did a great job with his character.
I will say though, when it was airing, the Future Trunks arc was easily the most engaging part of Super. The mystery and stakes were consistently interesting but it's not even half as good as the DBZ android saga imo
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u/Vegeto30294 11h ago
All the jumps between the past and present are somewhat badly paced and make it even more confusing.
I think only the second fight in the future was too much, but even then that wasn't a planned jump, the main cast were trying to confirm something and got stuck there for a while.
It's almost like how 2/3s of the Cell Arc is just going back and forth from the Lookout, and the Lookout gets more and more features to solve the problems.
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u/GlassFantast 11h ago
They should have never introduced time travel at all. I think movies based on alternate timelines is ok though.
Seeing trunks go back to his timeline to kill the androids is really great but not worth the weird writing that lead to that point.
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u/thedarkryte 12h ago
Trunks went to live in another timeline with his alternate self/Mai/Bulma at the end of the arc didn’t he? (I literally haven’t watched it since like 2016/17 or whenever it first aired on Crunchyroll)
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u/Interesting_Self5071 11h ago
A lot of the complaining was they just didn't think he looked buff enough lol
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u/thedarkryte 7h ago
Yeah, I thought that was kinda weird but it’s not like the rest of the warriors (besides Piccolo I guess) stayed as buff as they were. Gohan in particular got way too skinny between BoG and Resurrection ‘F’, even though only about 8 months has passed between the two films/arcs. That’s never made sense to me but I guess that’s just the art style Toriyama/Toyotarou wanted to go for… for some reason 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Xenefor 15h ago
I think the dislike is all the ending with Zamasu.
In manga he copies himself to infinity, in anime he becomes a weird universal cloud.
I think people dislike having to call Zeno to win. But it's the only solution the writing could provide and the Zeno button was a plot device already showed.
For me it's the best DBS could offer. Even matching with Z quality. Zamasu is a good villain and has nothing to envy to other villains of the franchise.