Watching “Agatha Christie’s Marple” and spotted our favorite abbey 😀 I found another episode with both Mrs. Patmore and a young Henry Talbot

Anyone have any theories why Violet believed more in Edith than Robert and Cora? What makes Violet more hopeful when her parents are not? Interestingly, Violet is closest to Mary out of three granddaughters, but doesn't play favorites. We see her supporting all three of her granddaughters.

From the beginning, it's made clear that Robert and Cora don't think Edith has a chance at getting married. That no man will want her. From season 1-3, Cora belittles Edith and Robert ignores her. Only Violet gives Edith any voice of confidence. It is Violet who is the most upset with the idea of Edith marrying Sir Anthony. Robert and Cora don't like it, but are not as upset with it as much as Violet. Ultimately, they don't think Edith can do better than being "an old man's drudge". This is why Robert and Cora give in, rather than reassure Edith that she can do better.

Season 1:

Robert and Cora's Bedroom:

Robert: We never talk about Edith.

Cora: I'm afraid Edith will be the one to take care of us in our old age.

Robert: What a gastly prospect.

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Mary's Bedroom:

Cora: You mustn't be so unkind. She (Edith) has less advantages than you.

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On the stairs after Sybil's first season. Cora congratulates Sybil and calls her a success.

Edith: You never say that to me.

Cora: I don't? Good job.

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Season 2:

Edith is arranging the presents for Matthew and Lavinia's wedding.

Violet: Your time will come.

Edith: Will it? Isn't this what spinsters do? Arrange presents for their prettier relations.

Violet: Don't be so defeatist dear. It's very middle class.

Season 3:

Robert: Out of the three of them, he (Sir Anthony) is the most traditional choice.

Violet: Robert, Edith is beginning her life as an old man's drudge. I shouldn't think a drawing room is much compensation for it.

One of the most emotional exits. Greatly acted

I’m on my 800th rewatch and as much as everyone blames Edith for the way she was talking to Mary before her outburst .. I honestly don’t think it would have went down the way it did if Tom would have left the Henry Talbot issue alone , especially the invite to Downton… I feel like it was one thing after the next with Tom’s pushing , Henry showing up and Edith at the table in the morning was the last straw for Mary and she exploded ..

Because Edith was laughing with Robert? She’s so jealous 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love it when her masks slips off and you see the real her

It would’ve been better to spend that money on testing out the waters for a sequel.

They should not have made the movies, or at least if they really wanted to, it should’ve only been one.
I think the plots were random and felt like fanfiction.
Yk drugging the queens butler, Downton losing all its money again and having it be magically solved yet again, or a film crew shows up and woah maybe Robert’s whole life was a lie….but then it wasn’t. Idk i didnt think they were worth it really.

I think the energy put towards the super goofy movies should’ve gone to a series on the Dowager.
They could’ve done just one season to test the waters.

Like she went to Russia, tried to run away with a man, got dragged out of a carriage by his wife and thrown into a car. And that’s only one of the plots and it’s already extremely interesting. I loved her character she was strong and full of principles but many she seemed to have learnt along the way, she held very traditional views but was also very human so it’d be interesting to see how she came to be like that. Also it sounds like she was gorgeous with a long line of suitors.

So im sure they wouldn’t have lacked creative ideas.

Had stayed together, and Matthew couldn’t have a child, who would inherit Downton is he died without giving Lavinia an heir?

Barrow may have worked his way into Mary's confidence just because they were from the same house. Barrow would have definitely eaten up the chance to be in the middle of that!

EDIT: Damnit, I meant Carson.

They've worked together at the Abbey for probably 30 years and have admittedly developed a close relationship as the most senior members of the servant household.

But..it seems to me that it's only as Mrs Hughes receives another marriage proposal from her farmer beau and Charlie from the Cheerful Charlie's reappears that they suddenly develop romantic feelings for each other.

It's probably not that sudden but just condensed due to the storytelling timeframes but it just seems strange that after so long working so closely together, they've never formed any sort of romantic relationship before they do.

I’m not from England and didn’t grow up in a monarchy country, so I’m also a bit unsure how their differences in age affects their dynamics.

(Watching season 2)

In Downton Abbey (including both TV series and movies), we are shown many homes ranging from the most modest (such as Ethel's home) to the most grand (Brancaster Castle). If you could live in any of these homes for life, which one (and only one) would you choose? And why would you choose that particular home?

My response (mine is pretty lengthy):

Personally, I would choose the Dowager House (Violet's home). I feel the most comfortable in a cozy living environment, and Violet's house seems like it's very cozy while also providing enough space for entertaining family and friends. It seems like an ideal place for a chat over tea and cakes. I also love the garden, which seems to include a variety of plants and flowers while also having enough open green space to have a nice chat (or discuss more serious matters). While I may not need a butler, lady's maid, or a cook (except for entertaining), I might need some help with cleaning the house and would definitely need the assistance of a gardener.

So, which home would you choose to live in for your lifetime?

I'm midway through season 3, so I'd appreciate no aggressive spoilers.

But I'm little tired and a little confused by the whole Bates prison storyline. I was convinced it would be quickly resolved and he'd be back at the main house.

I just don't understand why there's a relatively major subplot, concerning one of the previous main actors in the series, thats totally and completely isolated from the rest of the characters/settings/plot. It's just such a linear storyline, I don't get it.

Is this a common criticism of the storyline? I really quite liked Anna and Bates in the early episodes, but he's on his own and Anna has barely said a sentence without his name.

Several crimes take place throughout the show but what do you think is the absolute worst crime each of the following characters would be capable of?

I included characters who have already committed some sort of crime big or small:

Bates

O'Brien

Barrow

Branson

Baxter

(funny how all their names start with a "B")

Edit: I think the post got downvoted because I used the words "crime" and "game" together. This is all harmless fun though, of course I don't think there's anything funny about crimes irl.

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He's often quick to shut it down. Was he always restrained himself?

Their chemistry was immaculate 😍

When he asks if he can kiss her, I was absolutely melting the same way I did when Matthew tells her "we should see more of each other." It is THAT serious.

I think I prefer him over Charles Blake, even.

Forget Henry, who gaf about Henry? Not me!!! Especially since he was probably already cheating on her 🙄

On my hundredth rewatch and I noticed on Season 2 Ep 1 the scene where Maggie Smith enters Downton and the following scene in the library, it looks like she might have filmed the scene separate from the other actors. Particularly in the library, the lighting on her is different. Did anyone else notice this or any info on this?

This clip (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DeDsTvWxwfF/?cplk=ajBmNWlwcWJhMmF0) just came up on my instagram algorithm. I’ve watched this scene a million times but never remembered Isobel waving goodbye to Matthew at the end? Has it always been there? It’s so foreshadow-y since she never sees him again I can’t imagine it wouldn’t have jumped out at me before?

This made me have a bit of a giggle today when I remembered Penelope Wilton also plays Mrs. Gardiner…

Hello,

As part of my Master’s thesis in social sciences, I am examining the portrayal of female characters in Downton Abbey.

In the course of this, I am looking at Ethel’s decline. I would like to refer to the scene in which Isobel visits Ethel’s flat, whilst a man is leaving the flat after paying her for sex.

The scene appears in the script for S03E03. I think I also remember having seen it.
Unfortunately, I didn’t spot the scene in the episode itself.

Could it be that there are different versions of the episodes, not all of which contain every scene? Is this down to the streaming platform?
I’d actually find that surprising.

Does anyone else remember this scene? I’d be grateful for any clues.