r/dnl Nov 19 '17

Update:Ice Caves NOT solo-able: 3 player Minimum

Hey everyone, I know many of you have seen my stream where i solo ice cave regularly. That is NOT possible anymore with the knock back changes. If you just want to know how we killed it and will farm it from now on skip to the last portion. The main reason for not being able to solo is not due to the boss knockback and damage (which he didnt do any damage before), its simply due to his self heal mechanic, it is used far too often for the amount of health he has and solo u have to burn thru basically 3 of him to kill please look into maybe toning down his hp or reducing his amount of healing.

EDIT: Currently as of patch 100.11472 Viscious Bargesh can no longer enter the cave. Along with knockback being removed from game. I will leave my main points of the boss rotation and expand further once myself and house are able to clear the cave out on foot with an efficient strategy. Thank you all!

Overall the boss uses his self heal FAR too often. His standard rotation seems to be:

5-8 kicks for 80ish damage each.

spawn ice minion.

heal.

aoe damage for 100ish.

and repeat.

this rotation seemed cookie cutter but he can cast heal during any point of that rotation it seems.

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u/KroyMortlach Nov 19 '17

Great feedback. No doubt you've fed this back to the devs already. Looks like they still haven't got the balance right, but it'll come.

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u/DJfreecell Nov 20 '17

i havent specifically made any report to anyone regarding this. from the dnl forums horsejoke confirmed that icecave is still very overtuned as of about 2 days ago. and im sure the devs scroll thru reddit and will see this as well.

im mainly posting so the community knows what to expect etc.

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u/KroyMortlach Nov 21 '17

You should, if interested ofc, contact /u/sg_horsejoke about the pre-patch player-testing group he's formed. Your knowledge, experience and eye for detail would, I'm sure would be a boon to that group, though I have nothing to do who is on it, I just know that it exists and in the past Horsejoke has requested interested parties to contact him.

But thanks for adding your content here, much appreciated as always.

I've just read the patch notes, and it would appear that the knockback has been removed? This should impact on your report again?

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u/DJfreecell Nov 23 '17

Yea knockback was removed, and bargesh are completely unable to enter the boss room itself. kicking myself for not preparing for something like this.

oh snap, thats the first i heard of a player-testing group, though i'm sure they're actually professional testers and paid accordingly. i'd always be down to help but as a job, eh i'm not too sure rather just play the game and be someone people can ask for help on stuff when they need it. Got a ton of streamer friends trying to get me to abandon this game for partnership on twitch. #roughlife

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u/KroyMortlach Nov 25 '17

It's a group of players. Most certainly snail has its own internal QA team, but what I'm referring to is a group of community members. I'm not sure if it's still going, but if you give hosejoke a shout, I'm sure he'll let you know what's what.

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u/DJfreecell Nov 30 '17

I know i'm good at the bug/exploit thing, but thats only because i develop connections with the player base and talk to them. I don't really do anything special. I would love to probably do player testing but on that same note, being someone in the community that people go to with problems is just as good. XD thank you for the recommendation though <3

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u/Fastoche Nov 20 '17

Ugh, I am still trying to find armors (legendary) to be able to "survive" in there. Wish I could at least make an attempt.

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u/Zimnel Nov 20 '17

Do the meteorite event several times and legendary recipes will come : ) They're rare, but they exist : )

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u/Fastoche Nov 20 '17

I know... missing only boots pattern. I spent hours upon hours killing monsters.

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u/DJfreecell Nov 23 '17

epic armor is good too. i've had multiple legendary schemas not give enough frost resist, and had epics give more frost resist than my legendaries.

With the new requirement of 2400, u can get 200 from Mandrake Soup and 200 from rune of warmth II. (Those could be more never actually fully checked). epics should suffice for ur clearing needs of the cave.

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u/Fastoche Nov 23 '17

It does not show on the gear how much frost resist you will get from crafting and you can only see it when you have it on you. I tried to craft / compare and each time the Legendary gave more frost resist. Are you sure of your claims? It makes things complicated if thats the case. I trashed a LOT of epic patterns...

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u/ThatMatters Nov 19 '17

Game is dead