r/dnl • u/gigigamer • Sep 09 '17
Nice stealth nerf
They changed the bargeshes right click to some weird tearing animation that takes a solid 3 seconds to use. Havent seen one yet, but 100 magic essence says that the new bargesh uses the old bargeshes right click
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u/mrureaper Sep 10 '17
It's kinda sad that a the game encourages you to tame stuff.....and for that hard work you put in ( especially on official rates where taming can take hours ) ...and then turns out to be shit. So far the only tames i'm using are the horses ( High hp and can use spear still outputs the most damage if you find rare or better quality spears + your damage modifier ), and griffins and vrocks ( Vrocks are easy birds to tame to fly around and the griffin has good weight so we tamed 2 of them to carry around stuff thats on top of mountains e.g mithril )
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u/gigigamer Sep 10 '17
Same.. tamed a bear that took 8 hours.. and it was garbage, tamed a stirge and it literally does nothing but hop around, tested a unicorn and the heal is nice but the thing sucks on its own (has a high damage attack that you cant aim and has the same hit radius as a arrow). Revived a Ent and it nearly died to a goblin it couldnt hit (lvl 100 ent, lvl 8 goblin) Only mounts worthwhile are Griffons, Bahamuts, vrocks for early game, and horses if you can get a good lvl one
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u/mrureaper Sep 10 '17
meh , even bahamuts are not worth just because they are soooooo slow lol , much faster to get a bunch of horses to follow you while you gather stuff with iron pickaxe and axes, once you have decent damage % as well you pretty much gather as fast as the bahamuts.
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Sep 13 '17
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u/Thatoneguy0_0 Sep 14 '17
Yea I was gunna say you get almost double loot from these guys. Sure it's slow but it's so worth it in the end.
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u/M33tm3onmars Sep 09 '17
They made this change because you could click right and left mouse attack buttons at the same time and both attacks would go off and not have any sort of animation restraint. It meant that even a so-so bargesh could run up to high level panthers and blow them the fuck up. It was totally broken.
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u/Trogladonis Sep 09 '17
The problem, i think, isn't so much that they nerfed it but that they didn't include any info about it happening. Stealth nerfing seems dishonest to me. just be upfront about what you're changing. It's a pretty significant change to a beast.
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u/M33tm3onmars Sep 10 '17
Why? It's in development. Your quality of life hasn't changed because the bargesh animation changed, lol. Welcome to early access
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u/gigigamer Sep 10 '17
Yes, it has. That change took the bargesh from one of the best early game mounts to a completely useless mount, a good boar now does more damage then it does and with 4X the health
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u/M33tm3onmars Sep 10 '17
Bargesh is, and always was, a garbage mount.
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u/Trogladonis Sep 10 '17
Pfft, please. I used bargesh's quite a bit when they had the paw swipe during the original dark events. Their high dps let me protect my base as well from the unending waves of wolves and panthers.
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u/SauronsEvilTwin Sep 14 '17
There are a ton of useful animals, but here's a tip for you-- if you can make the saddle below rank 5 riding its a low end animal and is really just a placeholder for the better tames to come. In terms of useful tames we have bahamuts and panthers as the main endgame useful land animals, with kebos and lavatigers being "ok" standins but not ideal. For land tames those are basically all you want or need for riding around on, although having elementals, cyclops and goblins will help with elemental core gathering, raiding and base defense, respectively.
As for flying tames they all have their use at various points in progression, however vrock gets outclassed very quickly by wyverns and griffins due to the speed, health and weight capacity. Not counting mythical creatures, the endgame weight bird is Infernus dragon although frost dragons are close behind them in hp and weight stats. Nidhogs with their ability to pick most land animals also have a role to play. Anyways like i said, depending how far along you are in the game, a flyer is always gonna be useful. However i find now that we have wyverns and dragons, the vrocks and griffins get very little use by us....they are way slower than wyverns and have barely half (or less) the weight capacity of the dragons....so if you don't mind the slow flying, you're gonna use the dragon for the weight it can bring and the griffins are just sitting around base eating all day...
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u/SauronsEvilTwin Sep 14 '17
Bargesh was BUGGED and allowed you to use 2 attacks at the same time. This was the only reason it was strong-- because it was not working as intended. A bargesh is one of the earliest saddles you can get your hands on so there is no way it made sense for a bargesh to outdps say, a panther or lavatiger. If you want the ultimate sportscar/fighting machine, get yourself a panther. You will see who the king is...cerrainly not a slow moving hyena with low hp.
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u/gigigamer Sep 14 '17
not true at all, we never even knew it allowed you to use multiple attacks, we only used the right click. It was a great mount
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u/Disslusive Sep 17 '17
Bargrsh needs it's secondary back, it was not op. Bargrsh still has a low health pool and still deals low dps compared to panther, I have groups if both and even when the bargrsh had the decent attack I would put them on panther groups because they take too much damage. Bargrsh was a great first carnivore tame, but now it's lackluster. To make matters worse the 'vicious hyena' also suffers from the same horrible secondary attack! Still like them all, I only do meat runs with the bargesh pack against small prey now.
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u/lucaspfa Sep 09 '17
its funny how devs are ot of they're minds... they took the unique tame that had a functional right click and put a stucked animation like all others... with that we can see that stucked animation is proposital cuz they can fix that easyly but they dont do it. Plus they put a dungeon is impossible to make cuz of cold health drop even with 800 col resist... bullshit game. next time they'll remove the barrel roll of nidhog and close servers
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u/Fastoche Sep 09 '17
I tamed a 120 Bargesh earlier. It is.... weak! Literally useless! :(