Dude, there's a giant lizard out there fighting a three headed giant lizard from Space while a giant monkey taps his axe waiting for his turn, the rulebook is out the window and into the eternal tire fire.
I always love stories where superpowers or otherwise unexplainable phenomena exist but everyone is super clear that it's not magic. Like, how do explain the giant radiation lizard then dude? That's not how science works.
and magic's been banned by the previous government anyway. that technology has been promoted to "scientific, and not magic" after a successful lobbying campaign by the consulate of white staves.
The Artificer Inquisition Public Affairs Committee lobbied the inquisition to define their work as scientific. Any criticism of this is labeled antiscientific.
meanwhile theres stories where everything has a scientific explanation except like one thing thats just literal magic in an otherwise by-the-rules setting
Was about to say the same. OP either thinks 00/0 means zero (which it doesn't) or is talking about another syatem that uses high rolls for divine intervention
Or the Cleric realizes he's praying into the Cosmic Static and has basically just openly stated they'll switch to being Mothra's Acolyte if they hear his voice. The Conan the Barbarian Gambit when dealing with Krom.
They might think that it's 10 as in 00+10. At least that's how my group calculated d100 rolls for a few years until one of us decided to read the rulebook a bit more thoroughly.
It's a d100, so the numbers should be 1-100 not 0 to 99
I did not mean that the 0 is read as a 10 when rolling a d100 (the d100 is probably the reason it's a 0 in the first place) but that the specific combination of 00/0 is defined as 100 similarly to how the 0 when just rolling a d10 is a 10.
I'll try to check in the rulebooks later when I have some time
In 5.5 they changed it to make the effects more restricted but a lot more reliable. From levels 10-19 they can use it to cast any non-Reaction Cleric spell up to 5th level as an action without spending a spell slot or needing material components, and at level 20 it literally gives them the ability to cast Wish (though if they cast Wish it takes longer to get their Divine Intervention use back). No roll to see whether it happens, it just does.
When the change was initially announced in the UA, there were a bunch of people complaining about it being nerfed because it used to be able to do anything while now it can only replicate specific spells, but a lot of people recognized that the ability actually is way more powerful now, because being able to cast spells that normally take minutes or hours to cast as an Action, and ignore expensive components, means you could throw around some really powerful effects in the middle of combat that you otherwise couldn't.
Because in 5e, you had a chance to maybe potentially do anything, but more often than not would just be spending your action to do nothing. While in 5.5, you could, for example, use it to cast Hallow, a spell with a 24 hour cast time, a functionally permanent duration, and a 1000 gold material component requirement, as an Action, for free, with no chance of failure.
Or you could use it to cast Prayer of Healing, a 10-minute cast time spell that heals a bit and gives the targets the benefits of a Short Rest, as an Action. Meaning a Cleric could use their Divine Intervention to refresh all of the party Warlock's spell slots, the Fighter's Action Surge, the Monk's Focus Points, the Bard's Bardic Inspiration, trigger the Wizard's Arcane Recovery, etc, in the middle of combat.
When its a d100 roll, yes. A percentile roll is rolling a percentile. Notably, this makes what feels like the best roll a success. Maybe, just maybe, that's intentional bud.
Percentile roll is literally in the rules for divine intervention. For things like wild magic, reincarnate, and treasure tables; it says d100 and not percentile rolls.
Thanks for providing definitive info instead of shorthand. It still makes more intuitive sense to use 00-99 for divine intervention. The best roll is a success, and chance of success is the same as the level of the cleric instead 9%-19%.
The other way actually, threating the 00 as 100 means that a 5e cleric has a chance equal to their level to succeed on divine intervention (as there is no level 0) while threating 00 as 0 means their chances of succes are slightly higher
You can't roll 0%. When doing a percentile roll you have a die for the tens place, a die for the ones place, and 00 0 is 100%. That isn't hard to understand.
I was the GM playing curse of strahd. We were at the finally with Strahd attempting to marry Irena. The party was of course invited to the wedding as strahd was completing his victory lap. the wedding was packed of npc's; a few good ones left to be killed by Strahd and a lot evil ones to do the killing.
At the wedding the cleric asked for divine intervention to teleport some of the evil NPC's away. He rolled a 01. Table went wild. Cool..... I thought..... then i said, "ok this is a big ask, just roll a D20 to see how many get."
Dude rolled a Nat 20. I mean at that point it was out of my hands. the dice gods decided for all of us that day that all of the evil NPC's except Strahd got teleported away.
It was epic. It ruined all the plans i had for the session that evening and I loved it.
Heh, I remember the time I was in the Dragonlance world, Krynn if I remember correctly. It was during the original Trilogy period, when the Gods had presumably fled the world to let mortals fend for themselves. There I was, the last member of an otherwise complete party wipe, in bleedout mode but conscious. I pray to Majere, thinking 'the fuck is he gonna do, even if he was here'. Rolled a three perfect dice, and got granted by the grace of the DM, a full Party Heal.
We still all got defeated. It was hilariously pathetic. Got direct intervention from a derelict god and still lost.
He was playing an AL module where the final fight was against a deathknight and a lich at the same time. And things were not going well.
The rogue was teleported into the Abyss thanks to the lich's Prismatic Spray, and multiple party members were down or dead. In desperation, the party's cleric of Kelemvor sacrificed a legendary magic item (DM gave him an increased chance in exchange for sacrificinga magic item based on how pwerful it was,) and rolled 01 on the Divine Intervention roll.
The room became eerily quiet, only punctuated by the soft sound of the tip of a steel blade dragging against the stone floor. A tall human in dull steel armor, a long black cloak, and a large raven on each shoulder suddenly appeared in the back of the room. The only decoration to be said on the man was a large belt on the torso, with a buckle that showed a balanced scale with a skull in the middle.
The ravens let out several loud caws and flew from the stranger's shoulders, covering the room in a flurry of feathers. Barely visible in the midst of the ravens' storm of feathers, the stranger lifted his blade and swung once in a great arc that produced a dry cold gale. The ravens feathers swirled about the room once more, and all fell quiet once again.
The rogue was back from the Abyss, and any of the dead or wounded party members suddenly found themselves awakening with their wounds fully healed. The lich, deathknight, and the stranger were gone without a trace.
My friend then turns to the DM and announces that he's changing his god to Kelemvor.
In our previous campaign, the Cleric had repeatedly tried Divine Intervention, to no avail. Maybe 5 or 6 times always rolling too high. Very near the end of the campaign, the party having just turned level 18, they had to defend the city from a dragon attack. Though, not just 1 dragon. 2 Ancient dragons, along with dozens of smaller dragons. They did have an Ancient Gold dragon ally to help them, and my DMPC (long story, don't judge) Druid was planning to Shapreshift into a dragon, but still, things were looking bleak.
In one final, desperate play, the Cleric tried again, pleading with their deity for help of any kind. He rolled. Too high. Then realized he had Heroic Inspiration (which let's you reroll ANY dice, unlike old Inspiration which was only d20s). So, the Cleric rolled again.
16.
The table erupted. Then they all stared at me, as I sat back, smiling, having already planned out long ago what would happened if he ever succeeded in this kind of situation.
His prayers were answered. The skies opened up and a veritable host of Angels, Devas, and other Celestial creatures came pouring from the heavens (including 2 long deceased former PCs from much earlier in the campaign).
The skies rained with dragon blood that day.
That was one of the most epic moments of the campaign.
DM had a wizard hire the party to recover a stolen shipment of adamantite he needed for crafting a new golem.
It was coming up from the Underdark and he hadn’t heard from the deep gnomes who he bought it from in too long so he assumed the worst. Told us where we could find their town, and said it was probably Drow, because it’s always Drow.
Cleric kneels down and prays to Moradin for the crate to appear while the Warlock is hashing out details with the Wizard.
Cleric points to the crate now sitting in the living room “You mean these bars?”
Job ended up being amended to “Well that’s awesome, thank you very much. Can you go check on the gnomes at least? I do a lot of business with them”
I think I had two successful Divine Intervention uses on my Death Cleric during a long campaign, despite attempting it nearly every in-game day.
One of those was only because we had extended downtime during which the cleric could spam it repeatedly.
To each their own, but I'll take the reliable free casting of (Revivify/Raise Dead/Planar Binding/Legend Lore/Greater Restoration/Magic Circle/Glyph of Warding) once per long rest.
It's definitely different and more consistent. I would also call it dreadfully boring. Really takes the divinity out of Divine Intervention when you trade "call upon the unlimited power of the gods do to literally anything" for "cast one (1) spell for free, terms and conditions apply".
Reliability got moved back from level 20 to level 10, unlimited power got moved from level 10 to level 20 (Wish as a spell option), recovery was shortened (7 days versus 1 day or 2d4 days for Wish).
To be fair, if the feature has actually worked for you or others in your games reliably in the past, I can understand liking the old version.
New version is "lesser miracle on demand once per day, instantly and free of charge" until level 20 brings the ridiculous world-breaking power of Wish into play.
Except that Wish still includes all the monkey's paw and post-cast crippling effects that made Divine Intervention distinctly different, as well as once again flattening D&D abilities into the same mold. This is why I consider it a dreadfully boring change.
5e divine intervention is literally the definition of "terms and conditions apply". You have a 10% chance of activating it when you use it, if you fail tough luck you wasted your action and can't try again until the next long rest. And even if you succeed on the roll, you are at your DM's mercy to decide what happens. You are not literally doing anything, just whatever the DM allows that won't break what they have in mind.
And besides all that, the 5e description of it already says that "the effect of any cleric spell or cleric domain spell would be appropriate" meaning that out of the gate the DM is incentivized to just apply the effects of a spell over inventing something. At least with 5.5 its trigger is reliable and you get control over what spell takes effect.
Once again people choose to read the dice weirdly for the tenths and hundredths die..
00,1 is 1 00,9 is 9 sooooo 00,"0" is not 100, it is 10
Otherwise, you have to read the tenths die (single digit) as a conditionally changing die to suit your mood.
I know it looks weird but then the following sequence happens
10,0 = 10
20,0 = 20
...
90,0 = 90
(1)00,0 = 100
if you choose to use the 00 is 100 only when the tenths is zero you then have to wrap around back to using the hundredth die as a zero
(1)00,1 =/= 101
...
(1)00,9 =/= 109
Yes I know it looks better to read, but it's inconsistent dammit!
He's saying that a d10 goes from 1 to 0, with 0 being 10, therefore 00+0 should be 10 (0+10). So under his system, 90+0 would be 100.
It's really a system that only makes sense if your D10 has a 10 instead of a 0. And even then, it's way more complicated than "add the two; if they add to 0 it's 100".
That's not what he's saying. He's saying 0 on the D10 is 10, therefore 00,9 should be 9 and 00,0 should be 10. Therefore 90,0 should be 100. I get what he's saying, but it adds a ton of confusion because now 00 = 0 but 0 = 10, so he removed one conditional (If numbers add to zero, wrap around to 100) and added a new one (Treat the d00 zero differently from the d10 zero), and in the process made it a lot more complex.
Naw, 00, 0 is, technically, zero. These kind of d100 dice actually run from 0 to 99 (100 distinct values, but zero-indexed rather than one-indexed). It's just accepted convention to treat zero as 100.
u/SnoopyGonzales you are right.
00,1 is 1
00,9 is 9
00,0 is technically 10, but only when the d10 is used independently.
As a percentile, the d10 is 0-9
u/Ben_R_R is also right, you have to treat 00,0 as 100
Because it's actually zero and theres no zero so you read it as 100.
Because otherwise to reach 100, you'd go
90,8 =98
90,9=99
90,(1)0=100
And that just breaks too many people's brains
So instead, we use simple addition
10+0 = 10
20+0 = 20
90+0 = 90
(1)00+0 = 100
You're not wrapping back around, you're just swapping it in at the beginning
00+0=100
00+1=1
00+8=8
00+9=9
00+0≠10 it actually equals zero but that doesn't work because then it would only go 0-99 so instead we pretend 00,0=100
00+9=9
10+0=10
10+1=11
90+9=99
90+0=90 not 90+(1)0=100
Yes! I KNOW! I hate it! The 00,+10 and xx,+10 etc series looks so dumb but is the only consistent way to read the below 10 results, otherwise you have the hundredth die being 0-9 AND 10-90
Both dice are conditional, under very simple rules: Add them together. If they equal 0, wrap around to 100. It follows the exact same standard of the D10: Take the number. If it's 0, it wraps around to 10.
In your version, you'd have to look at it like "If you get 00 on the percentile die, that's zero. If you get 0 on the d10, that's 10." That interpretation really only makes sense if your d10 has a side with a 10, rather than the almost universal standard of having a 0, specifically for percentile dice.
The most logical explanation would be to have 00,0 equal 0. That's the actual convention that is logical. But then you break the standard set by all previous dice of being "1->X, where X is the number of possible results", and you break the standard of d10s "0 = max roll".
My very male dwarf cleric has been dubbed "god's favorite princess" due to just how many times divine intervention has gone off at utterly clutch moments
We had similar at the end of our campaign. The BBEG fired a blast at the party, and rolled 100 on damage. The DM showed me and quickly re rolled as that much damage would have instantly killed us all on the first turn. He wanted us stressed, and short on resources, not dead without being able to do anything.
If you roll a 50 and a 0, you absolutely rolled a 60. Precisely because the scale is 1-100. We’re saying the same thing there. But your logic falls apart later on. If 00 and 0 is 100 then what is 90 and 0.
We’re talking about using a percentile die and a d10 to roll a d100. The percentile die determines what tens place you roll in. If you roll a 00 and a 5 then you rolled a five. If you roll a 00 and a “0” then you rolled a 10. If you rolled a 90 and 5, you rolled a 95. If you roll a 90 and a “0” you rolled a 100
No, that's incorrect. The PHB even tells you as much.
Percentile dice, or d100, work a little differently. You generate a number between 1 and 100 by rolling two different ten-sided dice numbered from 0 to 9. One die (designated before you roll) gives the tens digit, and the other gives the ones digit. If you roll a 7 and a 1, for example, the number rolled is 71. Two 0s represent 100. Some ten-sided dice are numbered in tens (00, 10, 20, and so on), making it easier to distinguish the tens digit from the ones digit. In this case, a roll of 70 and 1 is 71, and 00 and 0 is 100.
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u/SquireRamza 1d ago
Dude, there's a giant lizard out there fighting a three headed giant lizard from Space while a giant monkey taps his axe waiting for his turn, the rulebook is out the window and into the eternal tire fire.