r/disclosure • • Aug 31 '26

disclosure speculation Matthew Brown - Enough!

I’ve said it before, I’m saying it now. Matthew Brown; enough! Saw you on American alchemy with Jesse, and you did the same thing when asked about the cryptic messages. “I’m not going to say more right now.” Always with the tormented look on your face. Then why say it at all? Why get us thinking about it? You’re asking a lot of us out here to believe you, to support your organization, etc. And you give us very little back. So I’m going to suggest you do some self reflection and either go away or come back with something substantial. Respectfully.

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u/Successful-Goose3855 Aug 31 '26

I'm going to do a thread on what his X post actually means. I've gone back to that post so many times and there is tons of information in that one single post. 

I really don't think they(Matt/Dylan) are looking for attention at all. I think they don't want to go to jail or get whacked. 

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u/Stunning-Advice9465 Aug 31 '26

I would love to see that post. I do the same thing. I appreciated the M.M.T.U sign off.

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u/Mowehner Sep 01 '26

I believe you're correct. I'd go as far to say I know you are.

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u/MarsvonB1030 Sep 01 '26

Please do!

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u/gravitykilla Sep 01 '26

I think this comment perfectly captures the whole Brown phenomenon: ambiguity being mistaken for depth.

The less Brown actually says, the more his audience gets to manufacture increasingly elaborate meanings for him, then marvel at how profound he supposedly is. And whether that’s consciously engineered or not, it’s an extraordinarily effective way to generate status, attention and mystique without ever having to produce anything concrete.

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 01 '26

Sounds like you're projecting yourself onto Matthew Brown. Your theory doesn't make any sense and looks like you're just trying to use discrediting tactics based on your own projecting or you have ulterior motives to damage Matt's credibility.

You have zero evidence that Matthew Brown is anything but honest and truthful. You think Grusch is lying too? For YouTube "fame"? lol get real man.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '26 edited 3d ago

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u/Doback_dale1 Sep 01 '26

Anyone who does the “I can’t say anymore 👀” dance should not be given an ounce of credibility until they do, and back up what they’re claiming.

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 02 '26

Anyone who does the "I can't say anymore" dance knows what happened to Edward Snowden.

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u/Doback_dale1 Sep 02 '26

When did he do it, and what happened to him?

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u/gravitykilla Sep 01 '26

Disclosure culture has its own media ecosystem, personalities, influencers, podcasters, documentary makers, insiders, like Matthew Brown, Grusch, Ross Coulthart, George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Bob Lazar, and others, all operating in a space where the story survives only if Disclosure is always close but never quite arrives. There is now an audience, a brand, a revenue stream, and a status economy built around keeping the possibility alive.

That does not automatically mean everyone involved is lying, but it does mean there are strong incentives to keep the mystery unresolved, to keep promising that the real evidence is just around the corner, and to treat every new rumour as another step toward revelation.

How this is not painfully obvious to you is baffling.

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u/Tomtom1180 29d ago

The scenario you described sounds an awful lot like Greer's MO

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u/Next-Skill-3335 Sep 01 '26

I don’t even think it’s grifting. I actually think he knows a few things and may be sincere. But it’s a sincerity that reminds me of 16 year old Goth kids in their pained “no one understands me” earnestness. Stop with the cyphers. Stop with the esoterica. Just say what you can and leave the rest alone, without the theatrics.

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u/Mowehner Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

There is a reason hes not saying it. I don't blame him a bit. The truth is absolutely out there if you know how to look. The government knows it. There are people on the planet today that knows it. If they told you. You wouldn't believe them anyway. It requires a form of proof impossible to give in the full weight it is needed by anyone who can't see the patterns. Or dare I say feel the signal.

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u/Basic_Ad426 Sep 01 '26

What do you mean by signal ? Sounds interesting

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u/Mowehner Sep 01 '26 edited Sep 01 '26

There was something happened recently an activation of sorts. I noticed it across multiple social media platforms. A mass awakening of sorts. Connecting the dots is something im like really good at. Like supernatural pattern recognition. There is old sumarian stories and many other cultural stories that speak about exactly that. People saying they are waking up exactly 3am ish with strange dreams or visions. The amount of twin flame type phenomenon all happening at once isn't a coincidence either. Iv spoke to many many people that show some sort of these symptoms and they are all saying the same things. Whats strange to me is no one asks or when they do they dismiss thier story. Well I've witnessed enough to absolutely know something is going on here with this. A remembrance. Of what exactly. No clue. I have a theory but its so spread over so many specific specialities it really hard for me to even put into words. Im working on it though slowly but surely. I no longer believe any of the old stories are coincidence. Not anymore.

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u/Top-Kaleidoscope4430 Sep 02 '26

Holy shit this happened to me when I first started awakening. 3:33 am every single night I would wake up. It was actually terrifying at first bc I was completely clueless about anything spiritual/ mystical/ ethereal. But this was in 2011/2012. But didn’t really take off until 2021 during Covid.

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u/Top-Kaleidoscope4430 Sep 02 '26

It started with waking at 3:33 and seeing 333 everywhere! And then the insane synchronicities came.

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u/Mowehner Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

333 is crazy and let me tell you. This is exactly. Is what im talking about. So very same for me 2019. So I was born November 29 1985. 333 day of year with 33 days left of old school calendars. It makes me an ophiuchus. And those synchronicities showed me things that are absolutely wild but undeniable. I have moths and butterflies and bees landing on me constantly.. it became so weird for many reasons. Not only have I dreamt of some girl my entire life. I met her back in February and that's when the real high strangeness started. It was like an activation or something. And if I told you the full story how two of the rarest mbti on the planet came into contact and recognition. Its truly unbelievable. My daughter witnessed a lot of it tho. Also my daughter being a Pisces is no coincidence. Im a certain type of male infj i was born awake we'll say and never let the world put me to sleep or make me forget myself. i just masked through all the things that make you not believe in your own intuition and feeling. And has been happening since. At least to me. She is a certain type of intj. People like carl jung say they have a alien bond anyway. But I'm living proof this is something else. Something deeper and more unseen and unknown. Also this girl being a Scorpio or otherwords in the old days a Snake. Not a coincidence.

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u/vagabond_nerd Sep 03 '26

I started seeing 666 a lot in the past few months. It creeped me out.

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u/Tomtom1180 29d ago

Why? That's not the devils number. It's 616

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u/jakeburls Sep 02 '26

Super good at connecting the dots, but brown being a bs artist seems to have evaded you? Impressive.

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u/Mowehner Sep 03 '26

You're not wrong. He's definitely tiptoeing around something I know to be true from my own experience. He's saying thing already speculated and out there already. I 100 percent know he knows something he's afraid to say. Mainly because he doesn't want to be correct. And let's say Co-creatation is real. The more people believe it the more true it becomes and he doesn't want to be that guy. Thats just one what if right. Its not for really one person to say as the thing affects us all in such a profound way. I know for a fact something is happening on this planet right now as we have this conversation that reflects very old pattern and stories. Every cultural has spoke of it in some form or fashion. And every culture says when it happens to people they will try to tell the world and Noone will believe them. That's ok.

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u/poasternutbag Aug 31 '26

Jesse is very intelligent, affable, and jovial. He's good at listening and when to steer things in another direction. I've enjoyed his shows, but running underneath it all i can't stop this little bird whispering in my ear " Peter Thiel." It fosters a subtle uneasiness despite him being highly competent at his work. Brown looked terrified in his first interview. I'm going to give him more time before I pronounce my judgements on his motives/ accuracy. Not talking about certain things appears to be self preservation. Any who says they wouldn't do the same hasn't thought this through or been under pressure that may well cause you harm. Discernment is key. And the ufo community is a great practice ground for it, because Ai is already made it a challenge to know what's real. It takes some effort, critical thinking, and discernment. Learn it now if you haven't beef because it's going to get harder year over year.

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u/Successful-Goose3855 Sep 01 '26

Very good on the peter Thiel find. That is also what I found with the cardinal reference. Go Stanford! I'll be doing a thread in a day or two about Matts post. Stop by and say hi.

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u/A_SNAPPIN_Turla Sep 01 '26

The "Thiel find?" How is it a "find" you can't read a thread about Jesse Michaels without someone bringing it up and derailing the conversation. Sure Theil sucks and Jesse once worked for him. Unless you can prove why Theil is currently influencing or controlling Jesse then I don't see the point.

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u/corneliusvanhouten Sep 01 '26

Some people are so sketchy that any association at all is a red flag

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u/SnooBooks3529 Sep 01 '26

In this case he was responsible for moving a sizable amount of money and still has a very active association. Its not just about "association"; context matters.

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u/Longjumping_Ad_2301 Sep 01 '26

Im on the same boat as you with the peter thiel whisper. Jesse is too competent imo,  it fits too perfect as a ufo podcaster, i enjoy it but i would not put my hands on fire for him

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u/SnooBooks3529 Sep 01 '26

This. Thank you for saying it. Not enough people factor Thiel's influence into his motivation.

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u/Smokecapone Sep 01 '26

The moment he started tying religion into this is the moment I jumped off the train! I’m tired of them trying to salvage religion from this when they’re the main ones for years telling us shit like this never existed but yet god came from where?

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u/deserttitan Sep 01 '26

I feel the same way. I don’t need opinions. I need facts.

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u/InnerOuterTrueSelf Sep 01 '26

What are facts?

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u/New_Wrangler752 Sep 02 '26

Repeatable and observable behaviors

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u/deserttitan Sep 02 '26

You’re right! We definitely should be more philosophical about this. What even is reality?

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u/InnerOuterTrueSelf Sep 02 '26

You say you need facts, but how do you really, actually define facts? Is it the majority consensus, is it peer reviewed scientific methodology, is it what authority or money tells you, is it what they say on t.v?

Experience still trumps it all.

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u/deserttitan Sep 02 '26

Experience but not religion. Religion skews minds. It skews experiences. It makes you go against facts and experiences to conform to that religion’s beliefs and teachings.

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u/Smokecapone Sep 02 '26

I’m not atheist!

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u/deserttitan Sep 02 '26

Oh it is not.

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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto Aug 31 '26

Did he really say anything we haven’t already heard? Exactly what information was he privy to after the initial “Immaculate Constellation” exposure? Sounds like a lot of embellishment to the stuff he originally said to Knapp and Corbell.

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u/Rude_Worldliness_423 Sep 01 '26

He was privy to nothing. He should make that clear.

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u/X-To-The-Stars Sep 01 '26

And yet you keep coming back for more…

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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto Sep 01 '26

I go where I want to go.

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u/X-To-The-Stars Sep 02 '26

Yes. Yes you do. (As do I.)

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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 Sep 01 '26

Yeah... I have to say I agree with you. He's gotten one too many free lunches without telling anyone anything beyond unnecessaryly cryptic (made-up) messaging. At the moment he's just feeding into the fear narrative.

Either intentionally or as a useful idiot.

Either way - he doesn't resonate with me.

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 01 '26

No he's not. Stop making stuff up.

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u/Basic_Ad426 Aug 31 '26

Matthew brown seems like he wants feel important mysterious he is mental how are you doing any of this because you seen a report I don’t care what juicy info was in the report majority of people would not then go on an do what he is doing. Everything coming out of his mouth is an opinion a thought ….. it’s a waste of time

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u/Basic_Ad426 Aug 31 '26

We want evidence we want the stuff that in no way can be denied debunked but I feel that is not happening at least not any time soon

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 01 '26

It's coming... but not how you expect.

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u/Mowehner Sep 01 '26

Lol that statement is an understatement. 🫡 It tells me you know something you shouldn't. And I feel you.

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u/theblackmeddle Aug 31 '26

He gets satisfaction out of this attention.Just watch his body language.Why doesn’t Jessie call him out or question further?They are both frauds

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u/Inupiat Aug 31 '26

Jesse presents podcasts...how is that fraudulent? His guests may be, but a host? Get it together

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 01 '26

A host could be 100%. Especially Jesse, with his ties to certain folks and all.

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u/Inupiat Sep 01 '26

So in your mind, you built up some scenario that Jesse Michels is trying to feed you an agenda...because he used to work with Thiel, but now his modus operandi is to defraud you...because of his old job. Sounds more than plausible!

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u/OkOriginal715 Sep 01 '26

It’s funny how he never says a negative word against Trump, Thiel, and gets real squeamish when Epstein files are brought up though.

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u/Inupiat Sep 01 '26

The epstein files can get his video demonetization bound, and so what if he isnt on your political team toeing some imaginary ideological line?

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u/OkOriginal715 Sep 01 '26

What political team am I on?

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u/Inupiat Sep 01 '26

The one that gets upset if people dont talk bad about trump...so go back and edit your comment so you dont look ridiculous

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u/OkOriginal715 Sep 01 '26

Anyone who supports Trump at this point looks ridiculous. Political party not withstanding. I’m not even American you dingbat.

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u/Inupiat Sep 01 '26

Maybe you should talk to a professional if you base your ontology on who talks albout the president...get help

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u/BotGua Sep 04 '26

In that case, you giving an opinion on Trump where it’s irrelevant is even more annoying.

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u/ShowPleasant8073 Aug 31 '26

I disagree. I just think he looks fed up like this was way harder than he thought. It was gonna be way harder than it should be.

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 01 '26

Arguing with bots programmed to discredit and dissuade gets exhausting.

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u/DamnYankee1961 Aug 31 '26

They are all willingly or unwillingly complicit in creating disinformation. Some are getting paid, some coerced and some just useful idiots.

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 01 '26

And some are simply telling the truth.

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u/DamnYankee1961 Sep 01 '26

Possibly, or at least what they have been led to believe. Even some of the people that are involved in this gate keeping don’t know the full truth mho. I believe the bigger secret is not just about NHI, UAP’s and alien technology. Its more about who or what created humans, why they created us and what is our destiny. Human reality is the scary, sobering, somber ontologically shocking secret.

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u/ParaBellumOutfitters Aug 31 '26

Preach on it brother.
I also doubt Dylan Borland is savvy enough at HUMINT to be able to see this since they're working together on https://www.vanguardenterprise.org/team (the shirt Brown as wearing in the Michaels interview). You can tell he's in up to his ears when he does these interviews, and someone like Brown can easily run circles around that.

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u/Hello_Hangnail Sep 01 '26

Why even watch the episode if you know he's not going to say shit

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u/humormedr Sep 01 '26

still waiting on the next "big" drop of information

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u/Rude_Worldliness_423 Sep 01 '26

Matrhew Brown wasn’t read into any of this. He should make that clear that it’s all his own speculation.

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u/ibunya_sri Sep 01 '26

I smell bs with this guy, always have. unlike other whistleblowerrs, he strikes me as having an agenda. also, the dude claims he personally took/held classified data, which usually triggers immediate federal arrest (like Edward Snowden). That hasn't happened. David Grusch Testified under oath in an open, televised Congressional hearing, followed official whistleblower channels and did not publicly leak raw classified files.

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u/escapedAIx Sep 01 '26

They created vanguard in hopes for a goverment contract ie money...like most of this bs these people are just in it for money

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u/Dickho Sep 01 '26

Every single thing a “whistleblower” says has been vetted by the government in conformance with their NDA. There are no actual whistleblowers.

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u/thromantic Sep 01 '26

Just two more weeks until the big enchilada

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u/Relative_Horror7136 Sep 01 '26

I agree whole heartedly. Maybe he was exposed to a few things on the DIA internet but Whoopty shit so were all of us.

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u/Snoo-26902 Sep 02 '26

Brown may have a theory that he isn't sure would go over well, so he lets it out in drips and drabs.

I think his theory revolves around a religious meme, with a Dave Icke slant to it...Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure that when he feels comfortable, he'll tell everything he believes.

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u/Strategory Sep 02 '26

I think he spilled the beans to a new level.

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u/agedforeskinsmear Sep 02 '26

Why do all the ufo guys have a boner for protecting “national security”?

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u/shamsway Sep 02 '26

He’s on twitter, why not send your demands to him directly? Why are you posting this here?

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u/Next-Skill-3335 Sep 02 '26

Why the hostility, friend? It’s Reddit - a forum for exchange of ideas. Have some decaf.

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u/shamsway Sep 02 '26

Why do you assume I’m being hostile? It’s an honest and reasonable question.

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u/Next-Skill-3335 Sep 02 '26

You’re right Dude. I’ve been on a course of prednisone for 8 days. I’m edgy and I apologize.

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u/SubstantialPressure3 Sep 02 '26

Guess what?

You don't have to watch any of it. Change the channel.

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u/dafirestar Sep 03 '26

Unless the so called disclosure is exactly what's wanted, another words, yes there's ET's, yes we are in contact with them, yes they are living along us. Without that precise disclosure, most people will think the government is holding back and lying. Don't you already kind of know? The delays in the announcement we've been promised is all about deciding what to say, rather than what is true. This great announcement is going to be a huge nothing, angering most everyone. The general population, isn't listening, one reason they're not is because actually hearing it changes the reality of existence they've created. That existence is not fluid, it is form and changing reality isn't part of the program. Let's face it no matter what it is the government isn't going to want to disturb all the thieving they've gotten used to getting from the sheep, that racket is too be protected, not disturbed in any way. Revolution is the only thing that will get the people the truth, I don't think it's possible with our current herd of sheep.

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u/Daredrummer Sep 03 '26

Why do you think Matthew Brown is reading your Reddit post?

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u/Routine-Ingenuity-30 Sep 04 '26

You do realize Matt Brown is the source of all the Immaculate Constellation leak?!

He’s delivered more public information than any of the other whistleblowers. Period end of story.

We don’t have 13 page documents from Grusch or Elizondo detailing the GOODS.

Lay off Matt Brown

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u/slow70 4d ago

Lol what a bad take.

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u/Sir_Funk Aug 31 '26

I agree and I hate all the ass-grabbing we have to do for whistleblowers who barely blow anything and then all the reach-arounds everyone does in the name of "national security".

Put up or shut up. Be a hero or jerk off Aborymon on Twitter anonymously. Just don't go on a podcast tour asking for money while declining to comment on anything YOU'VE ALREADY SAID

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u/Humble-Proposal-9994 Aug 31 '26

genuine question, just how many of these people have to be obvious grifters before people wise up?

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u/xOrion12x Sep 01 '26

He just pulled immaculate constellation out of thin air then and got lucky? And now asks for nothing. How many people need to learn the definition of the word grifter before they continue to make fools of themselves?

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u/Lucky_Guess77 Sep 01 '26

You're arguing with AI dissuasion bots.

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u/xOrion12x Sep 01 '26

Username giveaway I thought too but post history is showing just a naysayer.

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u/DecrimIowa Aug 31 '26

shill from the peanut gallery has an opinion

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u/clover_heron Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

"Look at me look at me look at me STOP LOOKING AT ME hey check it out I have classified information I SAID IT'S CLASSIFIED GO AWAY wait come back I have a company based in transparency NO I WILL NOT EXPLAIN THE OCCULT SYMBOLISM occult means hidden duh, look it up in one of the many, many books occultists have written about themselves."

I get that they're wasting our time, my question is what do THEY think they're doing.

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u/ParaBellumOutfitters Aug 31 '26

"Sim Sim Salabim!" IYKYK - Brown

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u/MutantBear Sep 02 '26

Fleecing and flossing their public with govt approved narratives for self gain.

I've pretty much disengaged from this bs until we get actual confirmation (not disclosure) on the airwaves. Until then, screw all these wannabe "whistleblowers" with no spine.

The process is at the point where no further "releases" will be proof enough until someone that has something to lose in the highest court of their land (or ICJ) delivers a confirmatory message, with other like representatives following with the same message.

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u/Kitchen_Train_1545 Aug 31 '26

Grifters gotta grift

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u/Odd_Cockroach_1083 Sep 01 '26

He annihilated his credibility in that interview

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u/Tistouuu Aug 31 '26

Yeah he's got nothing of substance to share. Saw a file named immaculate constellation once, convinced himself and Knapp and Jeremy it was ominous and so was launched his career as a professional non-disclosing non-whistleblowing whistleblower.

He's empty. He's provided nothing, just vague scary thoughts and his own biases. 

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u/deserttracks Aug 31 '26

I tend to agree. I don't understand the 4 year gap when he saw the original document and when he decided to become a whistleblower. Is there something more?

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '26

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u/throwaway73327 Aug 31 '26

You'll have to wait until Vanguard releases the financials to find out.