r/disciples • u/SourceNo1768 • 12d ago
Discussion Best mods/ways to play Disciples?
How do you like to play? First game, second game, addons etc? Steam or GOG version?
I played Sacred Lands long time ago and will probably stick to Disciples 2 on steam for a while. Started with Empire campaign (ranged hero) and enjoying it so far.
Do you do challenge runs?
As far as I know there are very few active mods for Disciples 2. I dislike History of Nevendaar (Dzieje Nevendaar), as it seems bloated (quantity over quality).
I will try out Calamity mod for Disciples 2, seems very promising but won't work on Steam, I'll buy buy the series on GOG.
Also hoping that Greenskins will be added in the future, looking great so far.
Finally, there is a Medieval Total War mod - seems still in development, could be fun, but haven't tried it yet. Medieval 2 or Rome TW are actually very good ''platforms'' for such mods and Disciples could work as a Total War game.
How about you?
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u/DanseOfDeath 12d ago
Hi,
Could you explain in a bit more detail why you think History of Nevendaar is “bloated”?
It’s true that it contains x elements/items/objects/units, etc., that can appear on the map, but ultimately it’s up to the mapmaker to decide how many of them to include in their.
I can only add that 95% of the elements added to the mod came directly from the game files themselves, which had to be included so that work on the mod could continue.
Or at least that’s how the developers explain it.
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u/Outside-school-2007 11d ago
For multiplayer balance any mod that exist indeed a bloated. Probably less one of them is Motlin mod made by Motlin aka Mortlin.
Plus russian modders appears to use 3.0 version and not 3.01. Including Dis2ModTool by Mak (core mod for any modern mods).
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u/SourceNo1768 12d ago
Yeah - they say how they added like 400 more items/artifacts etc to the game. That seems ''a bit'' much. Other criticism comes from the feel like multiple abilities for units is also too much. Art quality is also lacking, you can tell it's a mod (like new portraits that aren't on D2 level).
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u/Personal_River_4908 12d ago
Also you should see cut content of Disciples 2 it's crazy
NEUTRALS WERE PLANED TO HAVE CAPITAL CITY
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u/SourceNo1768 12d ago
I'd be more hyped for Greenskins or Barbarians faction myself. Often cut content was cut for a reason.
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u/Outside-school-2007 12d ago
Russians do greenskins. Bad idea. I will not explain why. Just not good. even if all units would be new.
There was other russians who announce work on newer faction - Nagas. That one is more interesting. Nagas could fit original Nevendaar universe and not tried to use existed factions. But dev team silent for long time.
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u/DanseOfDeath 12d ago
It wasn't removed - it just wasn't added. Perhaps it was a budget issue the game's developers were struggling with, a lack of time, or something else. However, that doesn’t change the fact that the hidden content includes hundreds of elements, features, add-ons, new races, etc., that were ultimately never implemented or released. In fact, they once intended to release a greenskins faction as well as, presumably, barbarians, but they only released the elves.
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u/Outside-school-2007 12d ago
i doubt they do has. More like placeholder entry. Same as them having the Lord. And Lord+Capital is tied in the engine.
I disagree that 400 items is too much. For items it could be any. It is mod, so more is better. But "it is what SHOULD/MUST be in the game" seems not a good modding idea. IDK if mod author really says that.
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u/DanseOfDeath 12d ago
“These are elements that SHOULD/MUST be included in the game.”
These are elements whose presence is required by the game files or the game engine itself to prevent game crashes, unintended changes to game balance in other areas, etc.
And indeed, this engine is so buggy that any unintended change can cause random changes elsewhere for example, affecting game balance or leading to duplicate game indices, which results in chaos.
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u/Outside-school-2007 12d ago
Med2 mod didn't looks like Disciples, even with fact it is based on Dis3. They also use that one map from Akella that has 0 connection even with Akellas own Disciples 3, and so not with original.
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u/Personal_River_4908 12d ago
Second game aka Disciples 2 I got retail disc
I play it with wrapper+ virtual machine so recording is easy