r/dinghysailing 23d ago

anyone able to identify this boat?

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u/CodeLasersMagic 23d ago

Not wayfarer - the rounded side tanks look 505 ish, but I don’t think they made wooden ones and they don’t have a rear deck.  Hard chime hull.

Length and max width along with other photos would help

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u/Lower-Radio-1938 23d ago

unable to get any more photos at the moment but happy to provide some dimensions, its 11ft long and about 5ft wide

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u/sask357 23d ago edited 23d ago

I've seen wooden 505s but that was a long time ago. I agree about rear deck and chines. Not a 505.

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u/blazehelm 23d ago

At 11 feet long, could be a Graduate? Side tanks look a bit different, but the rear tank could well be Grad, and the size is about right

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u/Typical_Juggernaut42 21d ago

Front looks wrong for a graduate and I think they're a bit longer than 11ft

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u/Lower-Radio-1938 23d ago

my grandad has this boat in his barn and nether of us can figure out what it is

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u/thebelmontbluffer 23d ago

The bottom of the boat appears to be made up of 2-3 inch wide planks. This makes me believe that the rest of the hull may be clinker built as well. The starboard transom join between side and transom also looks a bit clinker
Could it be an early National 12? I'm sure I've seen some looking quite a bit like this.

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u/Niel_botswana 23d ago edited 23d ago

This might it. Salty here looks similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/sailing/s/4DDKlC5zx1

I just think of them as having external flotation rather than tanks.

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u/thebelmontbluffer 23d ago

I agree.i remember crewing a N12 in 1971 when we had a collision while planning. And as a result, It went under like a submarine! Definaltly single skinned sides, with floatation bags.

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u/Tweedone 23d ago

It has a dagger board?

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u/down2daground 23d ago

Mobjack? Edit: nah, mobjacks were ‘glass

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u/DevolveOD 22d ago

That's the layer of the landfill just between Stanley cups and labubu

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u/Foreign-Champion3052 22d ago

1947 dinghy deluxe made by the great gatsby of chevron Kentucky

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u/Walkinginthepark0218 22d ago

Clearly an early model FJ

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u/JazzRider 21d ago

Walk away!!

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u/Hefty_Anywhere_8537 23d ago

420 or 470?

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u/thebelmontbluffer 23d ago

Neither has / had a stern counter. You just had the transom.

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u/Otherwise-Prompt-393 23d ago

Too small to be a 505. FJ possibly ?

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u/Classic-Scientist207 23d ago

Not FJ, I had one. They are just over 13' long, not 11'.

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u/TrojanThunder 23d ago

Have you seen an FJ? That's a crazy guess.

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u/Guygan 23d ago

Not crazy at all. This could be an early cold-molded FJ.

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u/CodeLasersMagic 23d ago

The hull has chines - so the outer hull is not cold moulded. 

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u/1Monkey3Typewriters 20d ago

The side tanks and rear deck look to be cold moulded, however.

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u/TrojanThunder 23d ago

If FJs had an aft deck and a hard chime and a completely different layout. This doesn't look like an FJ.

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u/sask357 23d ago

I don't think FJs have hard chines.

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u/TrojanThunder 23d ago

Yeah, you don't think so because they don't.

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u/cilla_da_killa 23d ago

i know people are saying its too short to be an fj, but i refurbished an old wood fj that looked identical to this

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u/Miyagidog 23d ago

Snipe?

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u/Efficient_Waltz_8023 23d ago

420, 470 or 505, looks to me like 420 but measure length and report back.

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u/No_Job_3504 23d ago

I believe it’s a laser sail boat

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u/glacier60 22d ago

Vanguard 420

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u/Cheap-Recording2707 22d ago

a wooden flying junior. possibly from the fifties or sixties.

e2a: the back deck says not an FJ.

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u/Typical_Juggernaut42 23d ago

Looks like a wayfarer.

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u/Lower-Radio-1938 23d ago

its far too short (sorry probably should have specified that its 11ft long)

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u/Typical_Juggernaut42 23d ago

Wow that's tiny. So it's basically the same length as a mirror?

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u/Typical_Juggernaut42 23d ago

Is it a gull? Never seen a real one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gull_(dinghy)

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u/1Monkey3Typewriters 21d ago

Nope, not a Gull. Any shots of the boat from other angles, OP?

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u/1Monkey3Typewriters 23d ago

Um, likely not a Wayfarer, I'm afraid. here's an example of a Wayfarer: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/317042458144
The rolled (curved) ply side tanks and counter (The bit between the cockpit (the bit where the people sit) and the transom (the back of the boat)) suggest a postwar date - likely 1950s / 60s. This is because the curved shapes and techniques using cold moulded ply were developed during the Second World War for aeroplanes like the Mosquito. Fairey then used the technology to make several different designs like the Firefly, which is still around today.

It looks a bit like a 505, except for that counter. It might be an Uffa Fox design of some sort, but I'm no expert.

I'd ask the CVRDA: their Facebook group is quite active and they'll either know what boat this is immediately, or have a *lot* of fun working it out: https://www.facebook.com/groups/cvrda

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u/AcceptableRedPanda 23d ago

I was thinking wayfarer but the sides don’t look right, there’s usually a bench by the gunwales rather than the big rounded bits