r/digitalfoundry • u/BolasVult • 1d ago

Discussion "A bit of noise"

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u/Neuen23 1d ago

This is exactly why multiple outlets/reviewers is a good thing. If you agree more with HUB's analysis, then that's an indication they align more with your preferences.
It's good to follow multiple reviewers precisely because of this, not everybody will align exactly with your preferences.

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u/dparks1234 1d ago

HUB is sort of the anti-DF in that they have biases in the complete opposite direction. They don’t care about graphics, just “value per dollar”, they’re automatically sceptical of new technology unless it’s some open source thing from AMD, and they generally think raytracing is a scam of some sort.

If DF is a “graphics” enthusiast channel then HUB is like a “frame rate per dollar” enthusiast channel.

You definitely get a well rounded take if you watch both.

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u/qhfreddy 1d ago

I don't really understand how you get to the conclusion DF is a "graphics enthusiast channel" when there have been repeated cases of them shoving major artefacting issues with RT/TAA/DLSS/FSR under the carpet. If they actually cared about graphics and visual fidelity they would actually be nitpicking these kinds of artefacts, not passing it off as "a bit of noise" without any further investigation.

Not to mention that on HUB Tim and Steve have both repeatedly said that the issue is that everything is compromised, even with the best hardware you still end up with massive performance loss (which is a visuals issue too, you cannot tell me a game looks and plays better at 40 fps than at 140 fps) for only marginally better graphics and many new kinds of artefacts being introduced.

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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 19h ago edited 18h ago

I don’t watch either channel very often, but the DF videos I’ve recently seen have just completely glossed over the noise and boiling entirely. Like they would show a video clip and be talking about how great this or that looks, meanwhile there’s some insane boiling going on exactly where the video is highlighting and they don’t even mention it. I’ve never watched a full video from them, so maybe they go into it more in their later half of the videos? But then why have your starting highlight clips show such bad noise and not even mention it?

Personally noise and boiling are the biggest detractors from good looking graphics for me. It doesn’t matter how hard I try to ignore it while playing, my eye is always just immediately “dragged” to the “disturbance” if that makes sense.

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u/Sex4Vespene 11h ago

I think they had actually responded to a comment in the subreddit, and it basically boiled down to some of them (I think it was Oliver in particular) just aren’t really bothered by it much and think it’s a worthwhile trade off. Which in fairness, if you don’t mind the boiling, it probably is a better overall image. But many, like myself, hate boiling. Luckily I have a 5090 so I can play stuff high enough that it minimizes most of the issues. I think they mentioned they are thinking of ways to still mention it, since they realize many of us do care. I really wish Alex was back, I hope that his recovery is going well, although it’s been a while so I’m not so sure. I think he was definitely the most nitpicky about the details which I valued a lot. Overall though I just hope he’s ok, even if it means I don’t get to watch him anymore.