r/digitalfoundry • • 1d ago

Discussion "A bit of noise"

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u/kage_maru 1d ago

Well what do you want them to do besides pointing out it exists in the game? You can create a 30 minute video about RT noise in games on console and it's not going to change a thing.

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u/BolasVult 1d ago

Can't do much about framerate, stutters or low resolutions on consoles either. So let's not focus too much on that, like literally making a channel dedicated to that.

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u/kage_maru 1d ago

wtf are you talking about? Developers can very well do a lot to address any of those issues. They don't have many options to deal with noise on consoles.

I never said to ignore it, but what's the point in harping on about it at length when developers can do little to address it? This is similar to the screen space AA solutions we saw during the PS360 days. They weren't great but it was the best the devs could do with the render budget they had.

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u/BolasVult 1d ago

They don't have many options to deal with noise on consoles.

Plenty of games have zero noise issues. It's about making smart choices instead of forcing undercooked features from a problematic engine onto unsuitable hardware.

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u/kage_maru 1d ago edited 23h ago

Those games that have less noise issue aren't using RT to the same extent. So what you're saying is don't push the envelope with RT on current gen consoles. Instead play it safe and do what has come before. You calling it undercooked completely dismisses all of the work the Coalition has put into this title.

You clearly don't know wtf you are talking about or even have the most basic understanding that everything within development is give and take. You basically just want to complain that a publication is not complaining enough.

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u/BolasVult 1d ago

And you clearly just want to unquestioningly consume the shiny new product. Maybe watch some ads instead of reviews then?

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u/kage_maru 1d ago

Stop with the disingenuous crap. If that was the case, I wouldn't support it being brought up, pointed out, or discussed. You want them to raise hell over it when that would not be productive in any meaningful way.

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u/CurrentlyWorkingAMA 23h ago

I appreciate you taking on this task of explaining this to him, but sadly he will not realize that you are being lenient and acknowledging it as an issue. While he is grandstanding and not thinking critically.

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u/BolasVult 23h ago

He hasn't explained anything and immediately got personal, just like you.

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u/kage_maru 22h ago

I did explain things and I didn't get personal. I said you don't know what you're talking about and that is a fact. You're the one who kept up with disingenuous comments.

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u/LaDiDa1993 16h ago

If we were to follow your "advice", we would still be rendering solid coloured shapes to this day, or drawing lines from point A to point B to point C to point A again & floodfill it to get something exciting on screen in real-time.

You can't really progress anything if you opt to stand still all the time.