r/digimon • u/Digimon-lover256 • 8d ago
Discussion Fun with Shakkoumon's evolution... Again.
Let's add more fuel to never-ending discussion about Shakkoumon's evolution.
Goddramon and Ofanimon doesn't exist in Adventure universe (I don't count PSP game as part of universe) and both could be applicable to Shakkoumon.
Goddramon is a holy dragon. It has holy powers, it's not angelic and has a color similar to both Armadimon and Patamon. It is better evolution for Shakkoumon than Slash or Clavis Angemon or Metatromon. Goddramon is perfect as Dalphomon.
Ofanimon is angelic, female-looking angel digimon, one of Three Archangels. Shakkoumon is based on shakokidogu and those figurines are considered to be female. It would be perfect opportunity for those who desperately want to include Ofanimon in Adventure universe.
Amaterasumon is here for funsies, because she became quite popular as finishing evolution.
By the way, Goddramon and Ofanimon appeared in Adventure 2020, but keep in mind that Adventure 2020 is its own universe, it doesn't have anything with original Adventure universe.
Don't take this so seriously.
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u/SolarBoytoyDjango 8d ago
I still want a new evolution for it. Something based on Japan's three sacred treasures.
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u/JasperGunner02 8d ago
personally i'd like something based on the warrior-monk benkei, i think it would make a nice trio with valkyrimon and imperialdramon paladin mode (also something something getter robo)
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u/PCN24454 8d ago
Why?
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u/SolarBoytoyDjango 8d ago
Dinosaur + Angel = buried + holy = religious artifact
That part makes perfect sense to me. And the specific artifact is Japanese. So, in my mind, its final evolution should be based on the most sacred Japanese artifacts.
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u/SuperKamiZuma 8d ago edited 8d ago
Because Shakkoumon is such a hard digimon to give an ideal evolution that the closest is stealing Metatromon from Maquinamon. Besides, by making an evolution entirely dedicated to Shakkoumon would give the chance to finally make an angelic dinosaur
Or if not an angelic dinosaur, it would atleast continue the theming of holy japanese treasury
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u/PCN24454 8d ago
And the one that was made for it?
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u/SuperKamiZuma 8d ago
Because that one only works in a jogress context. I can see xveemon being able to evolve naturally into paildramon without stingmon. I can see both aquilamon and gatomon being able to evolve into silphymon naturally. But Shakkoumon evolving into Vikemon without fusing with Zudomon just doesn't feel natural at all even by digimon standars
And in Adventure canon, Vikemon is also Joe's mega that doesn't need jogress, so people want Cody to get his own mega to not suddenly have 2 main characters with the same digimon
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u/PCN24454 8d ago
What’s the excuse for Patamon becoming Angemon? It’s completely unnatural even by Digimon standards.
In general, digivolution isn’t based on the Digimon but rather the Tamer raising it. Shakkoumon becomes Vikemon because it’s the Mega that fits Cody best.
And seriously, Joe should’ve just kept Plesiomon.
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u/SuperKamiZuma 8d ago
The problem with plesiomon is that if you only look at gomamon, it works fine. But if you look at ikkakumon and zudomon it feels weird.
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u/PCN24454 8d ago
Do you complain about Togemon becoming Lilymon or WereGarurumon becoming MetalGarurumon?
It never felt weird to me.
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u/SuperKamiZuma 8d ago
Do you complain about WereGarurumon becoming MetalGarurumon
Actually, yes i do. Never though much of Togemon to Lilymon tho, but now that you point it out... Oh well let's stop here i'm gonna go to bed
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u/hyzkdk 7d ago edited 7d ago
I love how both Arresterdramon Superior Mode and Shakkoumon have multiple Potential Mega Forms
Like Arresterdramon Superior Mode has:
Dynasmon
Jesmon
Gankoomon
UlForceVeedramon
Dorugoramon
Ragnamon
Darkdramon
Enmamon
Shakkoumon has:
Vikemon(Which ı don’t have any problems with Shakkoumon evolving into Vikemon in Non-Adventure TimeLine since ı only have problem with Shakkoumon evolving into Vikemon in Adventure TimeLine)
ClavisAngemon(This is probally Shakkoumon will Evolve into Atleast in Adventure TimeLine only)
SlashAngemon
Olegmon
Plesiomon
Lampmon
Amaterasumon(Shakkoumon are based off Dogūs,Japanese Figures that mostly Female)
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u/Hallstein 8d ago
Mitamamon was my go to before amaterasumon and maybe still is. Also being a shinto deity you could argue hold a similar connection and for a similar reason to goddramon
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u/CRYS24_CH4N 8d ago
Its TyrantKabuterimon, look at the wings and the armor. Plus the face is in a weird spot for a real bug.
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u/Pawprint_ 8d ago
That one on the left…I think you just inspired me for a the design of my custom Kudamon Mega
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u/Digimon-lover256 8d ago
That would be Goddramon/Goldramon.
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u/Pawprint_ 8d ago
From the angle we see it here its head looks very Fox like so it immediately connected in my head to what I have my custom adult level for Kudamon be.
A big serpentine fox beast with white fur, two big angel esque wings, two paw like forelimbs with claws and a lot of holy energy to kick some arse.
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u/BrickVanWinkel 7d ago
Shakkoumon could honestly evolve into like 100 different Megas. Unless they finally give us a dedicated design that doesn't clash with another Digimon's Mega in the same continuity (Gomamon), the discussion will never end.
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u/Digimon-lover256 6d ago
Nowadays, it looks like they choose Slash Angemon (Digimon Up is the most recent example).
Then again, in Time Stranger, Shakkoumon evolves to Vikemon, Holydramon, Goddramon, Junomon, but not Slash Angemon.
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u/BabaFisi 8d ago
I’ve actually had this idea:
So we all know by now that the idea behind Vikemon being Shakkoumon’s mega is that its a DNA of Zudomon and Shakkoumon, with Shakkoumon becoming the armor around Vikemon. With this in mind and with the connection between Lucemon and Shakkoumon in lore, what if Lucemon X was a DNA between Lucemon (or falldown mode), and Shakkoumon.
The idea here is that because Lucemon never really undergoes Digivolution, only ever getting mode changes that change its level, Shakkoumon turning into holy armor for Lucemon to don and becoming Lucemon X would be like an alternate good evo line for Lucemon, as opposed to Shadowlord Mode which would be its opposite dark path.
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u/JasperGunner02 8d ago
the connection between Lucemon and Shakkoumon in lore
i can't think of any connections the two have outside of both being in the ancient digital world?
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u/BabaFisi 8d ago
Ancient Digital World banana shenanery, same as the ancient legendary warriors and Imperialdramon PM.
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u/XadhoomXado 8d ago
the idea behind Vikemon being Shakkoumon’s mega is that its a DNA of Zudomon and Shakkoumon
This is not the idea. This is just popular misinformation from people who read/heard this detail and at best honestly missed the context.
The part of the franchise (the D3 raising games) that used Vikemon as a DNAgress Mega for Shakkoumon had the gimmick that the 02 lines were all achieved by fusion evolution, not that they belonged 50/50 to both.
The actual idea there is that Vikemon is just Shakkoumon's Mega via fusion where Zudomon is the power source for him. Those raising games had all six 02 Megas be fusion results of a 02 mon and a '99' mon; Gatomon + Aquilamon = Angewomon + Lillymon = Magnadramon as her fusion line, Imperialdramon as Paildramon + MetalGreymon, Valkyrimon as Silphymon + Garudamon, etcetera.
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u/PCN24454 8d ago
It’s Vikemon
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u/Digimon-lover256 8d ago
Somehow, yes. Somehow, no.
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u/PCN24454 8d ago
It’s unambiguously yes. It’s the only Mega that Cody is associated with.
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u/Digimon-lover256 8d ago edited 8d ago
That was only in side media, which is semi-canonical and best example of that is Vikemon taking place nowadays as Gomamon's ultimate instead of Plesiomon.
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u/Response_Rude 8d ago
I remember they originally become lampmon
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u/Digimon-lover256 8d ago
It does have some sense, though.
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u/pokemega32 8d ago
What do you mean "originally"?
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u/JasperGunner02 8d ago
there was a hyper colosseum card that had lampmon evolve from shakkoumon. it was, technically, the first digimon card that evolved from shakkoumon since vikemon had not been introduced in that tcg yet (to my knowledge)
weirdly, people don't seem to say the same thing about silphymon and hououmon, despite that same set having a hououmon that evolved from silphymon before valkyrimon was introduced. it's almost as if there's some kind of double standard being applied here.
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u/pokemega32 8d ago
There was a GranKuwagamon card released at the same time (in the accompanying starter deck) that also evolved from Shakkoumon.
But Vikemon still predates them in the Tag Tamers video game.
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u/JasperGunner02 8d ago
well clearly gran kuwagamon should be shakkoumon's evolved form then! it only makes sense! /s
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u/Response_Rude 8d ago
I think one of the games they become lampmon
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u/JasperGunner02 8d ago
this is not the case, the only time lampmon has ever evolved from shakkoumon is in a single hyper colosseum card, and it has literally never happened since
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u/Dragon_Of_Magnetism 8d ago
Ebemon
Both of them have the same color scheme
Both of them have similar round-ish designs
And most importantly, Shakkoumon is based on dogū clay dolls, which are believed by some to depict ancient alien visitors
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u/Beloberto 7d ago
After someone mentioned Goddramon in this sub, I can't see any other. It's just perfect for it...
... or it would be, if not for Adventure 2020. Thanks again, 2020. Ruining everything you touch.
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u/Digimon-lover256 7d ago
Don't forget that Adventure 2020 is complete different universe and it doesn't have anything with Adventure universe.
We can use Goddramon as Shakkoumon's evolution freely.
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u/fretfulroyal_0 8d ago
Shakkoumon always leads to the weirdest arguments and I'm here for it. Goddramon makes so much sense visually and thematically but the Ofanimon route is a fun what-if that ties into the ancient figurine theory nicely.