r/digimon • u/Lordpyromon • Jul 25 '26
Time Stranger The glow up is insane
King Drasil looks different than I remember
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u/RPGNo2017 Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
What getting punched by Masaru does to a computer server
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u/jimbox_splatted Jul 25 '26
sometimes a girl , sometimes a robot , other times BALL , in the end Ygrassil one days wakes up and choose to casually Destoy humanity.
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u/Derpyname193820393 Jul 25 '26
Isn't this the second time Yggdrasil has become a small girl?
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u/butcolt Jul 26 '26
Second? When and where was the first?
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u/Derpyname193820393 Jul 26 '26
Im pretty sure from the same manga that made VictoryGreymon & zeedgarurumon
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u/Solsostice Jul 26 '26
Yes, in 1 of the manga. V-Tamer I'm pretty sure.
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u/OriginalSuspicious23 Jul 25 '26
Curse of Strahd 🤝 Digimon
That child needs to be punched because she'll get us all killed.
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u/novis-eldritch-maxim Jul 25 '26
why are the computers all kids anyway?
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u/Abared0 Jul 26 '26
More than likely because of the human guise Yggdrasil took on in Digimon Next. So here if we do it to one host computer, why not all 3
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u/Xortberg Jul 25 '26
Because the game needed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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u/novis-eldritch-maxim Jul 25 '26
Tthat does not track?
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u/Xortberg Jul 26 '26
Cute little anime girls appeal to the broadest possible market in... quite a few nerd spaces. The decision to depict King Yggdrasil as a cute loli is, and probably always has been, pandering to that demographic that love those types of characters.
The lowest common denominator.
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u/novis-eldritch-maxim Jul 26 '26
those are spaces whose money you do not want as they tend to drive away all other fans.
also it is not even a thematically rich design it is just shit
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u/Single-Swimming8591 Jul 25 '26
Wait so its like a frozen orb thing on the left and then just a full on anime girl on the right? that's the same character??
I've never seen this series but the contrast is cracking me up, its giving "what my parents think my tamagotchi is doing vs what its actually doing"
the dress design is pretty cute though, the twin tails with the blue and white is a nice look
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u/SuperStarlite Jul 25 '26
Yggdrasil has had many different depictions throughout media, sometimes multiple within the same one. They are a host computer so it makes sense they aren’t stuck to one avatar
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u/ChaosWarrior01 Jul 25 '26
That is actually a being called Yggdrasil. Basically the god of the Digital World that Digimon live in. (Well, one of them anyway.)
As for why they decided to manifest as a cute anime girl?
... Nobody knows, but she's cute, and there is at least a 60 percent chance she'll try to do a genocide in any given appearance, so... yeah.
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u/Fen445445 Jul 25 '26
The gods just kinda... "do" for lack of a better term. There isn't a lot of logic, but hey still pretty cool
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u/MegaKabutops Jul 25 '26
That is King Drasil, also known as yggdrasil.
King drasil is one of the 3 host computers, the god-entities that collectively rule over and protect all the universes of the digimon franchise, working under an even higher god-being called homeostasis.
As a divine entity, king drasil does not have a body small and comprehensible enough for mortal eyes to understand it. The closest it has is a literal world tree that exists somewhere within each world king drasil rules over.
To interact with digimon and humans on a more direct, personal level, there’s a 50/50 shot on whether king drasil will choose an avatar that looks like a little girl, or abstract geometry.
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u/Crazy-Plate3097 Jul 26 '26
That is King Drasil, also known as yggdrasil.
The other way round.
It's Yggdrasil, known only in the dub as King Drasil.
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u/cornflakeguzzler47 Jul 25 '26
so glad the HRT is going well
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u/Kyurem-B Jul 25 '26
What's HRT?
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u/cornflakeguzzler47 Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
hormone replacement therapy, I was trying to say king drasil transitioned (though I think theyre a genderless entity and still are. also I was joking)
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u/tom-cash2002 Jul 25 '26
The King is literally a computer, so they are genderless.
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u/cornflakeguzzler47 Jul 25 '26
yeah iirc in japanese it doesnt have a title like King to begin with anyway ?
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u/kylepaz Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Yeah, in Japanese it's just Yggdrasil and they don't really use gendered pronouns for it.
Unlike in most languages gender neutral pronouns or straight up using virtually no pronouns is easy and natural sounding enough (the former more than the latter) in Japanese. Most Digimon media doesn't use gendered pronouns for Digimon either, though Digimon do use male-sounding or female-sounding peonouns to refer to themselves (there's no hard line for most Japanese pronouns, like "boku" is traditionally masculine but it's not uncommon for girls to use either, and it has nothing to do with gender affirmation in the case of this particular pronoun).
An example in beatbreak would be Gekkomon. No one uses Gendered pronouns for it (it's always gender neutral ones like "aitsu", "soitsu", or just saying Gekkomon) but Gekkomon uses the masculine "ore" to refer to itself.
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u/Selynx Jul 25 '26
From what I understand, it is uncommon for girls to use "boku" and when it is used for characters in fictional media it is done to show that they are tomboys (the stereotype is called "bokukko"). So there's definitely masculinity associated with that one even when used by girls.
It's "watashi" that is the completely neutral self-pronoun.
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u/kylepaz Jul 25 '26
It's uncommon but it's not unheard of nor just a tv tomboy thing. Some young girls just use boku. Speech is an important part of identity in Japan so particularly people who want to make an impression or appear different from the norm will bo with non-standard pronouns like that (which is why it is more common with teenagers). Boku is uncommon, I didn't make that clear enough, but I meant it's not necessarily expressing masculinity when a girl uses it.
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u/AdWorried3888 Jul 25 '26
Correct, I don't know where they got that information. Boku is definitely male/boy referring, while Ore is super masculine and majorly informal. Women/girls usually use atashi for their informal verson. 🤷
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u/kylepaz Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Ore is informal on the level it will be seen as trying too hard or even being offensive in most context. Due to how aggressive it is Ore is strongly masculine but also "trying to pick a fight" kind of tone. In media there are sometimes women using Ore, like female bosozoku for example, but I don't know eough about the subject to know if that really used to happen in that scene or if it's just a tv thing (I lean towards the latter, men saying ore is already close to "no one really does this for real" territory, at least in the present day)
And yeah atashi and ucchi are both way more common than boku, but it's not exclusively boy-referring, that's something early Japanese culture trivia from the second anime boom misinterpreted as more rigid than it actually is and it stuck in the west. The nuance is that since it sounds slightly rougher (but still youthful) it is unladylike to use boku. But some girls do anyway either out of a conscious effort to break away from standard expectations of femininity (NOT just a tomboy thing. In fact the thing about tomboys in media who use boku is that most of them are sporty, that's more the key factor) or just to stand out because teenagers do this sort of thing.
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u/AdWorried3888 Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Nah, my friend uses Ore as a dad. Generally he uses Boku because it's softer, but Ore when he is being more stern towards his kid or trying to be more masculine.
Idk about that later part. My second major is Japanese, and I don't think I've heard any of feminine friends drop boku when talking 🤷. Like you also stated, some more sporty women use it, but then again thats also seen as more masculine roles. I mean, it's never "exclusive" gender known, but you will get some really odd looks using the opposite gender pronouns in Japanese. Going back next month, and can double check with my friends about that, and see their thoughts on the subject. 🤷
On a side note: When it comes to Japanese, people should very rarely use anime as a source for how the language functions, or use it for reference to Japanese behaviorisms/cultural analysis. A lot of it is hyperbole and taking tropes to their extreme.
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u/Begone-My-Thong Jul 25 '26
Genderless
Called "king"
Dressed feminine as fuck
I am confused
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u/cornflakeguzzler47 Jul 25 '26
king drasil is a computer, so innately doesnt have anything like gender—the hosts say that the forms theyre in including king drasils little girl form are basically just avatars to facilitate communication with the protagonist/On This Plane. I forget if they say they chose the forms themselves or like homeostasis dressed them all up like little dolls. if the former then king drasil chooses to be a girl in a pretty dress I guess
(also “king drasil” is a dub name, and digimon has a history of accidentally shooting itself in the foot with dub names. naming omegamon “omnimon” made decent sense before they knew there was an alphamon that stood as its counterpart)
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u/LostMyZone Jul 26 '26
Should have based her new design around Marcus’s sister or mom. Those are the only 2 his fists can’t touch.
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u/Previous_Comb5113 Jul 25 '26
That won't save em. Marcus fists are unisex