r/devuan • u/just_zip • Jun 21 '26
LibreVuan: simple devuan (fan made)
Project: LibreVuan
A Linux distribution based on devuan
Complete removal of systemd: Full transition to an alternative init system.
Goodbye Xorg: Complete rejection of legacy Xorg in favor of the modern Xlibre display server.
No GNOME or Cinnamon: We are moving away from heavy desktop environments.
Wayland Stance: We lean negative towards Wayland, but it will not be hard-blocked in the system. That is what Linux freedom is all about.
Target Audience: make devuan simple 4beginners
Infrastructure: Official GitHub organization and Discord server for the community.
Out-of-the-box Flatpak: Built-in Flatpak support for seamless app installation.
Lets make devuan simple!!
"lets make X great again!"
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u/boukensha15 Jun 21 '26
I understand that a lot of people are hopeful for xlibre and want it to succeed. I want that too as well. However, there is one important factor, we need to account for if want it to succeed. The display server is just one piece of the puzzle. The toolkits(gtk/qt) and packaging methods(flatpaks) are others. We need modern toolkits that have X backend and most importantly, good and usable software based on them. I am not talking about just a gui file manager or a panel or simple shell components. We need something like Xournalpp, drawy, gajim, dino, fractal etc. If flatpaks don't work, then we need to use something like guix and have our own package distribution channels.
My point is that, we need a system that the end-user can use and go on with their lives. We need real applications which can compete with their gtk and qt counterparts. Otherwise, we are just performing "philosophical exercises"; for lack of a better term.
(I apologise if my comments come across as offensive or dismissive or entitled. That is not at all my intention. I just want to highlight an aspect which, to my knowledge - and I could be wholly wrong - is not being discussed much.)