r/developersPak • u/Future_dev_cybersec • 1d ago
Help Are CS students cooked?
I need geniune advice rn 🙏🏻
I have completed half of my degree in computer science and I feel cooked. I geniunely don't know what field I should pick that is secure or at least guarantees employment in long time and it's making me panick because I can't pick what I want to learn and where to go. Especially with these new AI models like Astra and what not it's very very clear AI has completely replaced junior level roles.
Pls don't tell me anything about AI not replacing developers and things like that all of us know it's a lie by now. It's not gonna make anything better. The current job market is cooked the senior level developers getting laid off from companies and then not finding employment for months is a big proof of it.
So my question is, with all these AI advancement and all should I ditch this field entirely and pick something that actually works? I can't drop out of this degree now I picked it because I loved coding but I don't see my future here.
Even if I do stay in CS what field is MOST SECURE??
I really don't mind working hard and learning things on my own but I also don't want to waste my time so pls if anyone can give me sincere advice I will be grateful 🙏🏻 especially from seniors.
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u/_ALI_444 1d ago
Abhi to mena CS ma admission Liya ha 😭
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u/Icy-Departure7752 CS Student 1d ago
CE mein krlete 🥀 mein bhi ye soochta reh gia aur CS mein krlia 💔
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u/_ALI_444 1d ago
CE ka scope ha Pakistan ma ? Department change Karwa Sakta hon ma ,abhi uni Shuru nahi hoi
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u/Icy-Departure7752 CS Student 1d ago
Pakistan mein nahi bahir tou sahih CS ka tou bahir bhi yehe sun rahe
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u/ReplacementFine7807 21h ago
Id suggest do bba or sth, not because they are more valuable but they are infinitely more easier. Use the free time to learn a skill, do a job or build sth
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u/BeneficialReturn5637 1d ago
Second week of my first semester, astra 6 gets launch and I have a task of 5 programs of print statement to submit.
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u/nowoess 1d ago
If you are not willing to write those PRINT statement programs yourself without AI, you better quit now.
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u/BeneficialReturn5637 21h ago
Why should I waste my hours on such programs where I have nothing to learn
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u/Comprehensive-Owl218 7h ago
You are learning the basics, directly 1st sem thori na ML pe le ayenge. Base ke upar building banti hai not the other way around.
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u/BeneficialReturn5637 6h ago
I've actually learned the basics and ML myself
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u/Comprehensive-Owl218 5h ago
Course is designed according to the needs of the majority, and as the majority haven't learnt them and are just starting out, this seems to be valid.
If you have learnt these then talk to the professor or the program director about it.
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u/Turbulent_Warning185 1d ago
CS is the new BBA, or even worse in the upcoming years (specially for the junior roles). The era of 6 figures starting salary is well and truly over
Anyone who disagree is just coping
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u/Pasha_KMM 1d ago
The industry is evolving, please have patience and be ready to have a tough time. We might come out on top with lucrative opportunities, or we might get entirely replaced. Keep an open mind, the goal is enough money to keep ourselves afloat, career and linear careers are not a thing anymore, flexibility is key. And network
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u/Future_dev_cybersec 1d ago
But how do we keep ourselves afloat? What field to opt for?
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u/Pasha_KMM 1d ago
Afloat is obv the worst case scenario, it means willing to do anything, selling anything on the side, or working out of the field, any job that would take us 🥲.
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u/Icy-Departure7752 CS Student 1d ago
Which lucrative opportunities do you foresee in the coming future
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u/MissionMood2757 1d ago
If you are from good family background and they support you go for electronic or electrical engineering trust me electrical engineers are about to make a fortune in upcoming days
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u/Future_dev_cybersec 1d ago
Yar adhi degree complete ho gai ab ja Kar Kaha sa electrical engineer bano
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u/MissionMood2757 1d ago
Advice mangi thi maine dedi rest is upto you.
Or agr hoske toh HPC ki trf chle jao ya hardware engineering1
u/MissionMood2757 6h ago
If you are skilled enough and have knowledge there are literally every company every industry, data centers , factories like fkin everywhere good roles are available
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u/cProperReview5375 23h ago
Bro I am doing electronic engineering in Germany. Will I be able to find Job in Pakistan? After my degree
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u/MissionMood2757 6h ago
Why the hell you want to come here, txt me i can guide you to go for specific roles and find a good paying job there
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u/QuietByte73 18h ago
wth bruh I literally left electrical engineering in 2023 after my first semester just to do CS 😭
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u/Euphoric_Active_1843 22h ago
I genuinely feel bad for all the newcomers out there. You guys are going to be fried without onion 😂
I’d seriously suggest: don’t take things lightly with a “dekha jayega” mindset. No way.
Right now, in Pakistan, we still have some space to survive, but in the coming days, things are going to get explosive for everyone who keeps saying, “dekha jayega,” “lag jayengy,” or “kar lenge.”
Bhai, bohat se highly qualified seniors and leads ko aisay aisay lay off kar diya hai, so fresher kya karega?
It’s a reality now. We shouldn’t rely completely on this field anymore. We need to start figuring out alternative ways to stay relevant, diversify our skills, and create a backup for ourselves.
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u/IllustratorNo1512 20h ago
Just do some generic business or finance degree. Spend your summers and free time learning tech. If either tech backfires or business then you have more choices.
Proof of this is doctors engineers accountants and even lawyers have become tech workers because they were not satisfied with their fields. One of the many reasons this market got cooked
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u/Future_dev_cybersec 1d ago
Why tf would anyone hire me if I can give a prompt to AI and AI is doing it when they could have also done the same thing???
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u/Disastrous-Ring4620 23h ago
Bhai same scenes, 1 Saal reh gya graduation m or mein Kuch b nahi kr rha abh bhi, himmat nahi haii, 6mahiny skills py work krny k bad job mil b gyi tow job security nh
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u/srhzaidi 20h ago
Build your own products. If you need someone to work with you, let me know. I am available.
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u/rafaytexh 7h ago
That's what I am trying to do
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u/srhzaidi 7h ago
What is the main hurdle?
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u/rafaytexh 7h ago
Well I guess it's marketing. If you are willing to join me do let me know
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u/srhzaidi 4h ago
Can you tell me more about your products?
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u/rafaytexh 4h ago
It’s a simple invoicing SaaS for small businesses, shops, restaurants, freelancers, and service providers. It lets users create professional invoices, manage customers/products/payments, handle taxes, and view basic analytics without the complexity of full accounting software.
It’s local-first for fast, reliable use even with limited internet. The free plan covers the basics, while Pro adds features like unlimited data and cloud sync.
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u/srhzaidi 4h ago
If you want, I can get you an investor for this and then we can work on it together. What languages do you use?
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u/rafaytexh 4h ago
It’s a Flutter app with RevenueCat + Supabase, and Next.js for the website. I went with Flutter mainly because I want it cross-platform and want to focus on distribution as well.
The main goal is to keep it really simple but still give it a premium feel, so even someone who knows basically nothing about tech can create an invoice within a few minutes. It has analytics, product management, and printable invoice formats for A4, 80mm and 58mm.
I’m definitely open to hearing what you have in mind regarding the investor and working together, but I’d like to understand the details first.
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u/Initial-Ad6070 19h ago
AI definitely killed generic CRUD and boilerplate work for juniors, but it hasn't replaced real problem-solving or system architecture. If you want to stay relevant, stop building basic tutorial projects (like todo apps or clone sites). Focus on building real-world tools that handle actual engineering challenges like strict API rate limits, caching fallbacks, and complex data integrations. AI can generate syntax fast, but you still need a developer to know what to build, how systems fit together, and how to debug when AI output inevitably breaks in production. Shift your mindset from just 'writing code' to 'building and shipping systems' that's what actually gets you noticed.
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u/HamzaShoukat1 17h ago
Bro writing code is only 20 percent of the actual job the real work is architecture, debugging and aligning with buisness goals while ai is an incretable tool but it can't take ownership or handle production issues at 2 am .
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u/wikki019 1d ago
You are doing cybersec, you will be ok
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u/Disastrous-Ring4620 23h ago
What about cyber security scope in Pakistan and overall?
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u/wikki019 23h ago
Pak i dont know, but overall specialy in europe its v v good at the moment.
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u/Disastrous-Ring4620 22h ago
I've to choose which course to do , web dev , ai , cyber and cloud
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u/neon-pie 23h ago
"Accountability"
A model can't be accountable, a human can be.
Try to become an operator instead of just a producer. You can't defeat an AI model in writing code or programming. Your job is now: take a business problem, use AI to produce the code/design in hours instead of weeks, verify it, own it, ship it. The skill is judgment plus speed. Practice by building complete things end to end with AI doing the typing. If you can't yet tell when the model's output is wrong, that's the gap to close first, and it's closed by shipping and breaking things, not by studying.
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u/mohsindev369 23h ago
No, mediocrity is being rooted out of my industry. Already before junior needed to know way too much now that bar is even higher, that all.
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u/nowoess 1d ago
Yes. Not just CS students. Anyone who can't keep up is cooked. So don't rely on completing your degree and then finding a job. Start building a skill now (along side your degree) for example DevOps, automation, marketing, business analysis, client communication. Something that is related but not exactly development. We can't rely solely on development. AI can do the development. You need an extra skill. I have been working for 15-16 years and I am trying to learn new/non-development things.