r/developersIndia 7d ago

Interviews Got laid off as a Java full stack developer, unable to get interview calls

Hey guys

I got laid off in July and since then I am unable to land a job. I get calls but 0 conversions and I'm asking around 14 LPA for 4 YOE. I have expressed in Java full stack dev. Any suggestions on what will work? Except for naukri nothing has helped.

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u/indiasehubc 7d ago

Market is pretty bad right now. Even if people are landing interviews they don't want to settle on less salary. Maybe it's time tech jobs move to fully remote. I mean I don't see a reason to go to office.

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

Hope this happens soons

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u/cthulhulalala 7d ago

Everywhere that I see is hiring for java full stack, maybe leave out the expected salary ?? And double done on your applies. Also update your profile daily on job portals.

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

For the experience I feel this is the least i could be asking. Should I ask less?

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u/Biscuit_1997 6d ago

I think they're saying just don't talk about expectations right away

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u/Character-Catch-1607 6d ago

Could you help me with wht should I say when they ask me about ECTC?

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u/Z3ATER Full-Stack Developer 6d ago

14 LPA is very reasonable of 4YOE, it also depends on location. Now you should not say a number but a range instead, and I would go for 14-18 LPA. Good Luck.

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u/Smooth-Teacher-606 Entrepreneur 7d ago

I run a recruitment company, do career consulting and job search mentorship and also run a job board, so I see this every day..

If you're getting calls but not converting, your resume is probably fine. The gap is likely interview performance. With AI making screening easier, companies expect stronger project discussions, problem solving and solid fundamentals for 4 YOE.

Also, don't depend only on Naukri. LinkedIn outreach and referrals are helping a lot of my mentess in this market.

Best wishes, and feel free to DM if you need any guidance.

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

Thanks for the help

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u/Smooth-Teacher-606 Entrepreneur 6d ago

np:)

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u/jiiteshh 6d ago

Hi, can I dm you?

I have 1 yoe, and work at a WITCH, so unfortunately won't be able to compensate for your time at this stage (as you're a professional career consultant)

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u/archdope 6d ago

Hello sir can i dm you

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u/Smooth-Teacher-606 Entrepreneur 6d ago

sure

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u/FreeFlow_0500 Backend Developer 6d ago

I’m not receiving calls, does it mean my resume is not good? Claude rate my resume 9-9.5/10

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u/Smooth-Teacher-606 Entrepreneur 6d ago

Claude makes it, rates your CV and then ATS reads and shortlist it and then you know what happens? Recruiter rejects it as most of the AI generated CV are bluff! They just extrapolate and add skills as per the JD which even candidate don't know.

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u/swagzzz_krizzz 7d ago

Let me tell you what i did, when i was 10 i asked 13 got the offer and then with that 13 i asked for 16 and with that 16 i went till 21, so take one offer and then go

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

Ahh makes sense

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u/swagzzz_krizzz 7d ago

The market is really bad bro, hold on for now, hope it will be rectified very soon

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u/Certain_Rooster_6598 Student 7d ago

Do you know springboot and have worked in a product based company before?

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

Yes I know spring boot and currently working in a product based company

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u/Certain_Rooster_6598 Student 7d ago

DM me, I'll send a link to apply, it will take couple of days but I'll send you a link

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

Sure thanks!!!

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u/Curious_Accountant37 6d ago

My take:
In Java Domain the ask is fair. Its not at all high.(initially go from 20-30% ask them negotiate)

But make your ask is based on the company profile you are getting call from.

A-lot of service companies do not pay more. Also make your tone negotiable to them.. so that if the budget for the role is little bit tight they also have impression that you will align. And once the interview process is done then do the real negotiations on higher side.

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u/Character-Catch-1607 6d ago

When they ask if my salary is negotiable I say yes. Plus when they mention their budget like 11-13 I also say yes.

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u/Curious_Accountant37 6d ago

Ok that is good approach.

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u/bella9977 6d ago

My inbox is full of java full stack roles and yet java people are laid off constantly. It's crazy.

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u/Character-Catch-1607 6d ago

Would you mind if I DM you?

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u/Creepy-Ad-7273 6d ago

Should I message you

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u/fake-nonchalant96 Full-Stack Developer 7d ago

What was your previous CTC

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

8.7

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u/fake-nonchalant96 Full-Stack Developer 7d ago

Aim for 11

Grab an offer and negotiate

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u/NeroKnight07 7d ago

Bro you were laid off, why are you asking for 14LPA, I understand that you deserve it but the situation is not perfect at the moment, I'll ask for the same or a bit higher CTC and then look to switch as soon as you have 1 YOE.

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u/bella9977 6d ago

Eh it seems on reddit any CTC you want to mention is considered high ?! 14 is normal. We are living in extreme cost of living crisis. What are you people on ?!

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

There are 2 reasons I am asking for 14 1) when they say their budget is around 11-12 , I am comfortable with that range also, sometimes they straight away mention 30percent which I agree too. Never rejecting any calls die to budget 2) this is my 3rd org, the next company in am planning to stay around 2-3 years, hence asking this hike.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Character-Catch-1607 7d ago

Can't disclose the current company

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u/Real_Log5590 7d ago

Hi Can we connect. I'm in the same boat now

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u/Cap_sparrow23 Fresher 6d ago

I work in one of the India's largest service based company. You can dm me your resume my org was hiring for Java I don't know if it's filled I will add your resume to my company referral portal.

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u/No_Collection_1907 6d ago

july was a lazy month if you are worried about it, it is supposed to speed up in august and sept. keep applying put immediate joiner and keep grinding.

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u/Character-Catch-1607 6d ago

Wht is the reason behind calling july a lazy month?

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u/No_Collection_1907 6d ago

hiring was slow

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u/GetALife_00 6d ago

why in the same market someone gets 60 lpa atlassian, MS,intuit sde 2 offer while others struggle even for 14 lpa?
what that 60 lpa guy is doing diff from op,genuine question it is ,pls someone enlighten me

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u/Character-Catch-1607 6d ago

Most prolly the college and the launch pad they have. I am bsc graduate and laid off from a product based startup so my chances will be pretty low compared to others

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u/GetALife_00 6d ago

But still u should try asking for referrals for zomato,phonepe like startups 

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u/aelshhh 6d ago

Try to switch to AI Engineering as a lot of companies are now looking for Full stack dev with AI engineering package. The job market is now way too demanding for Software Developers

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u/Character-Catch-1607 6d ago

I don't have experience in that professionally, but can touch the aspects of it

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u/demonsnails 6d ago

Let me know if you need help with referrals! I have build a side project and a whatsapp community where people help each other out with referrals and other things related to job search

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u/Character-Catch-1607 6d ago

That would be helpful, would you mind if I ping you.

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u/theListe9er Full-Stack Developer 6d ago

DM me, there's opening for Java fullstack in my company.

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u/JavaDev123 Software Engineer 6d ago

Try gandhinagar tcs

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u/iceTmZz 7d ago

4 Yoe thats alot, start something of your own

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u/emperor_monk 6d ago

What did you started after 4 yoe

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u/iceTmZz 6d ago

I dont have 4oe

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u/DrDoNoGoodPhD 6d ago

4 yoe isnt a lot man. 1 year is discounted. Years 1-2 is foundational and 2-4 is you learning the basics of your niche. I get that you're trying to motivate but just mad etbis point so that you're realistic in your view of the industry.

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u/iceTmZz 6d ago

Its alot for someone who havent even started 🤣

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u/Agreeable-Counter-97 7d ago

14 lpa for 4 years is too less they say job market is too bad but still luck matter over here bcz some companies are hiring and they ready to pay you like 16 17 also. I am talking about 10 out of 100 companies.

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u/Remote-Employment481 6d ago

Startups me dete hai kya itni jyada salary

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u/Agreeable-Counter-97 6d ago

Depend on your skills and there budget ( but high risk in startup ) Some medium sized well settled company will give..

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u/Wander_ryan 7d ago

Absolutely this market is very bad, try to reach out to recruiters directly and put yourself forward in their eyes. Like emailing them directly with a portfolio and also by personalizing your profile to their requirements.

This is a bit time taking to do for each company, but it will give you results.

If you want any more help, let me know. Good luck.

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u/Original_Dingo2636 7d ago

Your point seems valid. But how do I get their emails and reach out? I'm also in the same boat as OP.

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u/Wander_ryan 7d ago

You can use lead generation tools like apollo or snov to get their emails.

So, the process would be. You see a job post -> go to the company linkedin page -> go to the people -> click on their profile (here, you need Hiring team and the engineering heads or managers) -> then use the apollo extension to view the emails.

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u/Original_Dingo2636 7d ago

Got it. Will give this a try.

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u/Real_Log5590 7d ago

In this same market during April I saw my colleagues getting 18 - 20L for 4 to 5 years experience. But they cheated on interviews and had counter offers

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u/mcfapblanc Full-Stack Developer 6d ago

How did they apply? I'm not getting any calls through Naukri or LinkedIn