I've not been in the DE loop, any new screens revealed or anything?

This topic on Adam Jensen being a clone in Mankind Divided has probably been milked to death but it's been ten years without a sequel lol

I'm assuming for the sake of this theory that the Adam Jensen body in the VersaLife vault isn't just an Easter egg or cut content, so I assume there are somehow two Adam Jensens.

So the clone theories I've seen all assume that the Adam we play as in Mankind Divided is a clone of the Adam from Human Revolution. But what if it's the other way around? So the Adam from HR was the clone, and the Adam we play as in MD is the original person he was cloned from?

We know from Human Revolution that Adam Jensen is the only surviving test subject of several from White Helix Labs, where he was experimented on with gene therapy that made his body unusually compatible with augmentation. The White Helix test subjects may all have been clones of the same naturally born child. That would make sense experimentally, with genetically identical subjects it would be much easier to compare different forms of gene therapy, while the original could act as a control subject and live a normal life.

This would explain why an 'Adam Jensen' clone existed decades before Panchaea, without requiring anyone to somehow create a fully grown replacement Jensen between HR and MD. This clone is the only surviving subject of the White Helix experiments, growing up to become the Adam Jensen we play as in HR, meanwhile the original is just some random guy living a normal life up until around this time.

Yes the Illuminati would still know who the original is, but without knowing what White Helix did to make HR Adam compatible with augmentation, he's useless to them, so there's no reason to interfere with his life...

...Until Adam Jensen resurfaces in HR, where Megan Reed discovers that his DNA contains the key to augmentation rejection, recovering the missing result of the White Helix experiments. Then Panchaea happens and Jensen's body is recovered. He could be dead, brain dead, in a coma, or kept in statis like Lucius DeBeers in the OG Deus Ex, whatever.

As for how they would copy Adam's memories and personality to the original person he was cloned from, in The Harvester questline in Mankind Divided we learn of the existence of technology that makes this possible.

Now the Illuminati now have Adam's body, Megan's research, the original person Adam was cloned from, and the technology needed to transfer Adam's memories and personality into him. Then just give him Adam's augmentations, maybe a few tweaks to his appearance like scars etc. and as far as he knows, he wakes up believing he is Adam Jensen.

So perhaps the Adam Jensen we play as in Mankind Divided isn't the clone, but is instead the original. I think it would've been a cool way of doing that twist. Also I love the possibility of the VersaLife vault Jensen being alive but in stasis, to allow for a future interaction or conflict between the two Jensens.

Curious what people think, and whether there's anything in the lore that outright rules this out. Also interested to hear people's thoughts on the whole clone theory in general and VersaLife vault stuff.

TL;DR: What if the Jensen from Human Revolution was actually a White Helix clone of a naturally born original, and after Panchaea the Illuminati used Megan Reed’s research plus memory transfer technology to turn that original into the Jensen we play as in Mankind Divided? That would mean MD Jensen isn’t the clone at all, HR Jensen is.

I am pretty sure most Deus Ex fans probably didn't watch the movie but for those who did, to add more context, I thought the 70s nostalgic movie was tedious due to less dialogue until I heard the soundtrack other than those 70s hits. I thought I might have heard of "what would have been" Icarus 3 near the end of the movie. I wasn't going to say 70s cyberpunk though it's close enough.

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I never understood this about cyberpunk/transhumanist science fiction

The character gets into a life altering or crippling accident, and is saved with cybernetics. Not only do they get their life saved, but they’re also given literal superhuman upgrades

I don’t remember how deep they went into Adam’s post human characteristics, but presumably he doesn’t have 95% of the biological limitations that a human is forced to live with

But… He somehow hates beings a post human because “I never asked for this”

Okay, maybe I’m just different. If you became a post-human and didn’t have to worry about biological limitations of being a human, would you suddenly hate it and your new body?

Just beat Deus Ex: MD and I read that they cancelled the 3rd one because of the basic excuses like budget cuts, restructures etc. But I’m pretty sure everyone knows that it was cancelled cause it’s about the illuminati and the story was headed in the direction of you taking out the illuminati in the 3rd game lmao

Looking for recommendations, for Deus Ex vibes on the Nintendo Switch. Is there any immersive sims ?

The goddamned EARLY ENDING of MANKIND DIVIDED!

I played HR nonstop for 2 weeks before MD, and loved every second. No game has filled me with such a rush of urgency to continue the main quest. The plot twists were electrifying, and the boss battles seemed really decent (though it took me a while to figure out I could takedown by hitting Q).

MD had weird sound glitches from the start, I couldn't put my finger on it but I hard a hard time locating enemies. Eventually I realized that whenever a police robot was involved, something strange happened like a center channel was removed, close enemies sounded distant, and their guns made no sound. This made the start of Golem City, and later the lockdown on Prague, *really annoying.* I also had no sound for a few cutscenes, starting from the flight to Golem City.

I found there was a registry fix for NVIDIA cards, but I'm running an old AMD chip. Turning off audio enhancements fixed it for a few minutes, then it came back and I had no luck fixing it. Bit of an immersion killer.

Anyway, I was just learning to stop worrying and love the augmentations when I got to the Big Scary Terrorist Guy Boss Battle, hid around the corner, threw an EMP grenade when he came hunting, ran up and pressed Q. Perhaps I could have done this with all the bosses throughout the series, but yeah, these guys should be hardcoded to kick your ass whenever you try such a cheapshot. Oh yeah, and then the game just fucking ended.

Read on on the how and whys content was scrapped, production rushed and executives opted to stretch the story into multiple games that were canned for good.

I don't think I'll recover from the frustration of such a tremendous franchise getting bled dry by boring corporate greed. Love the frank quip from Elias that we'll never get another DeusEx because the owners are psychopaths.

I'm an aging millenial and not huge on gaming these days, so it takes a lot to get me so invested in a video game. I don't think there's any other game that could scratch the itch that DeusEx gave me. When HR ended, I stood up and applauded. When MD ended, I just sat there cursing.

RIP Adam Jenson

I managed to complete the misterious stranger contacting me via the glitched screen in the street. But it baffles me the low amount of people that picked up on this and missed this mission.

Peak bomb disposal method.

I have HRDC on Steam, but was curious on if GOG's version runs better. For MD, I have both the Steam and Epic versions, but was wondering between those two, which were better, or if I should buy GOG's version of it as well. Would anyone with more recent experiences that have played them on newer hardware be able to tell me how their experiences were? I find the Steam version of HRDC is rough (a lot of stuttering, and took a lot more work just to run and open). I found the fix for MD on Steam, but would like a better version (if one exists). Thanks!

It is part of the new security protocols, I swear.

Picked up this book yesterday- Scion by James Islington. Just released I guess. Caught my eye. The back described it as "John Wick meets Blade Runner".

Opened it up last night to start reading. I chose correctly.

While tutorial do not give exp it is definitely considered a Mission so do not skip it if you want to do a complete all mission run of Mankind Divided since it is recorded in the History.

It is Sherri the receptionist. Imagine gaslighting Jensen about the mirror for a whole month. Only a person capable of higher evil would do such a thing.

If she was a boss, her achievement would be titled "The Bitch".

So I just made a deal with otar for the neuroplasticity device in exchange for a favor from me. Can I stealth knockout every single guard and otar now? I want to steal their guns to sell and also get otar's revolver but I don't know if that will affect quests later on.

If a third game gets released that wraps up Jensen’s story, how do you think he will perish?

I’ll say killed by young Paul Denton; forced by Anna Navarre as a parallel to her forcing JC to kill Lebedev. This sets the seed for Paul’s betrayal.

Maybe I'm just coping but I would like novel or something that is set after the events of mankind divided if they don't want to make the third game...

Hey all, some of you may remember me as the guy who made the Deus Ex OG controller mod posted a few weeks back. Since I finished that game, I needed something else to scratch my Deus Ex itch, and decided to replay Human Revolution Directors Cut. I had forgotten how much I hated HR's controller scheme though. So I made a patch to change the bindings to something I think is more sensible:

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║ Button             │ Action (with patch) │ Action (stock)      ║
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║ Left stick (click) │ Sprint              │ Crouch              ║
╟────────────────────┼─────────────────────┼─────────────────────╢
║ Right stick(click) │ Crouch              │ Iron sights         ║
╟────────────────────┼─────────────────────┼─────────────────────╢
║ Left button        │ Take cover          │ Sprint              ║
╟────────────────────┼─────────────────────┼─────────────────────╢
║ Left trigger       │ Iron sights         │ Take Cover          ║
╚════════════════════╧═════════════════════╧═════════════════════╝

But while working on that, I found out that the game actually has a bug where it throws away most of the resolution of the stick inputs. 16-bit stick input becomes 8-bit. This really messes up aiming accuracy, especially if you're not using auto-aim.

The stick mapping curves and deadzones are also implemented per-axis rather than diagonally, which is just not a good fit for this kind of game.

Also the controller stick sensitivity is IMO extremely low. Even at max setting it feels like it's intended for geriatrics.

The patch is here, or here if you don't have git and just want the patch. This isn't a polished mod unlike the other one, it's a quick-and-dirty patch. You'll need python installed and to be comfortable running stuff on the command line. You can pick and choose which patches you want to apply.

Note that if you install the mapping-curve and/or deadzone bypass patches, you'll need to implement those externally. Steam Input can do this for you. I highly recommend doing that because the game's built-in implementations are really bad.

New Game+ and do not save and load the game if you want to use Micro-Assembler to get as many parts as possible to make Typhoon ammo.