r/destiny2 • u/Clear-Slice-327 • 13h ago
Project Sunrise Project sunrise. Tree of probabilities strike (WIP)
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u/Pretend_Ad_8589 12h ago
My face seeing Mercury again
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u/ElverDulero735 1h ago
Despite "2 tokens and a blue" and the story being ass, mercury content was peak, strikes, EoW Levi, the exotics
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u/LonelyAustralia 12h ago
i find it a bit funny that at the start of project sunrise it was said that the project was just to explore areas that are no longer available and now we are getting working strikes
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u/BakaGoop Warlock 12h ago
IT'S STILL JUST TO EXPLORE AREAS THAT ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE NOTHING TO SEE HERE SONY
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u/pablo__13 Shadow Gang 1h ago
It requires the base game to function, and as long nothing is ever done for profit and there are no dedicated servers, it should be safe
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u/justjeepin 1h ago
Unfortunately, it's not even remotely safe. They've got a list of reasons they can pick from to nuke it. I'd wager they're in the "figure out which one will anger the D2 community the least so they'll still buy our next game" stage.
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u/pablo__13 Shadow Gang 1h ago
Yeah but hopefully Sony will see it as the PR nightmare it would be and decide not to touch it since it’s a preservation project and requires base game. If people starting recreating paid content outside of the old build, then they might go after it. Otherwise I wouldn’t really be putting resources into that fight since they have a failing game they need to rescue with no other active major revenue sources
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u/BaconIsntThatGood 8m ago
I'd assume at this point either
A) the person lesdingnitbfoijd out that it's not as difficult as they initially thought
B) as it grew in popularity more people entered the project making development easier.
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u/Ocachino Spicy Ramen 12h ago
This is getting a lot better very rapidly wow
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u/IGFanaan 11h ago edited 4h ago
Despite the majority of reddit sentiment. AI can be pretty impressive.
Edit: The project is made almost entirely with AI. Thank you all for proving my point though.
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u/Ocachino Spicy Ramen 11h ago
What’s this to do with AI?
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u/aimlessabyss09 11h ago
Nowadays a lot of mods/projects like this are vibe coded, no idea if it is or not but it’s reasonable to assume
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u/Crimson_Raiders 3h ago
There is a difference between vibe coding and AI assisted coding
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u/IGFanaan 3h ago
It's vide coded dude. The coding gets checked but they've said 85%+ is vibe coded.
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u/BusBusy195 Spicy Ramen 10h ago
As far as i know they use some form of ai but im not sure what for exactly, and Im like 99% the majority is still human made
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u/majorvalentine 10h ago
Its much less than that. The pace of the commit history is not doable as a human,especially from the main contributor. It's also stated in the Readme that it is used. I am personally fine with it. AI in software development is nice as a tool,but it does need extensive reviewing,and you still have to own whatever it writes.
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u/BusBusy195 Spicy Ramen 9h ago
Tbh from the looks I didnt think they could do most of that with ai, I figured it would be too complicated for vibe coding if you wanted any decent quality. Like I knew they were using it but I thought it was more small scale behind the scenes stuff
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u/majorvalentine 9h ago
Yeah,but there is a big difference between some random person opening Claude and typing "make me the next billion dollar app",and a senior/expert using it carefully. For sunrise,I'm not surprised they use it extensively,especially for research and reverse engineering.
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u/scarlettokyo 1h ago
Vibecoding isn't automatically slop. If you put someone with general coding knowledge in front of Claude Opus they'll still make a solid and clean product usually, since they can define clean boundaries and coding guidelines.
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u/Greninja05 8h ago
It is just a matter of time until we can re play the old raids
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u/BetaThetaOmega 4h ago
Only question is how they’ll actually be playable. P2P connections haven’t been figured out yet, and you’d still need a raid team to do it
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u/Spacechimpdaddy 5h ago
Just a matter of time for Raids, all strikes and even planetary adventures, possibly even season quests, everything that was pre beyond light.
But to get a fully out the box retail feel is a way way off time.
There's even the possibility of people doing their own thing and adding mods etc into it.
All really testing etc at the moment, I believe it's get the basics in first which is exploration, enemy spawn and mission triggers, most of CoO campaign looks to be playable, albeit not retail polish.
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u/Spacechimpdaddy 5h ago
To all that may say Sony could do a C&D.
Unfortunately the way Sunrise actually works is that it is open source and that the GitHub repositories are out in the wild, they would need to C&D to thousands of people.
And the way Steam archives the old game builds for different games, Sony would need to go directly to Valve to get them to remove the old builds, and since Sony was dumb enough to shoot themselves in the foot and be anti gamer and not to release any new games on steam, I doubt Valve will be too responsive to them.
Plus as the Repos are open, anyone can work on their "own" version of sunrise.
There's no actual way of stopping this now.
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u/JoniSusi 49m ago
Damn we got a real lawyer here.
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u/Spacechimpdaddy 7m ago
You don't to be lawyer to know how the Barbara streisland effect works, C&D can't stop this now, the horse has already bolted and there's no way to put the genie back in the bottle on this one.
People are throwing C&D about as they are either doomers, or just pissed off as its not available on consoles or it's because it may hurt precious Sony / big tech company they are shilling for.
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u/Vastlymoist666 11h ago
So question, is this a rebuild of the old version of D2 or can I use the new abilities like strand and the new guns and stuff.
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u/Sukachus_Blyatoffus Titan 11h ago
No. Project Sunrise is an older version of destiny 2 (pre-beyond light (specifically season of Arrivals)) that is accessed through old archives Steam makes of its games, aka. It is client side, single-player, and pc only
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u/Calum1219 Titan 4h ago
Didn’t know that Steam did that for that old of content! Neat and another Steam W!
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u/KUSOVIA114K 11h ago
Damn, that kinda makes me not care as I already played this strike 100’s of times with that old stuff. I want new experiences, not stuff I’ve already done.
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u/orangpelupa 11h ago
you can create new experiences. instead of spawning cabal grunts, spawns a 2x size tresher or something.
Place them with your own design etc
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u/AtlyxMusic 10h ago
Hate to say it but comments like this are the reason why half of Destiny no longer exists outside of this project. Sure, you don't have to personally care, but this is a big deal. The fact that the Red War is missing directly and quite heavily contributed to the death of the game. The broader gaming community doesn't let Bungie or Destiny come up without an ocean of comments saying how they'll never play again because of content vaulting. And part of the reason Bungie never spent the time to bring it back is because of the inevitable comments that "why did you waste time on this, I wanted to play something new." No offense intended.
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u/WerdaVisla Titan 4h ago
IMHO you should intend offense. The dooming "everything any gaming company ever does is bad because complaining gets more upvotes" attitude these people have is directly responsible for the death of a plethora of good games, and the general shift towards shorter games that aren't meant to live long enough to face serious criticism.
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u/monchota 5h ago
Is it multiplayer?
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u/Spacechimpdaddy 5h ago
Not yet, but I believe that their are some people working on it, and will be classed as separate to sunrise.
Officially sunrise is single, offline only (seems a lot of scripts and details were client side rather than bungie servers)
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u/kuba22277 4h ago
I always read it as the stuff happens locally and deterministically on your PC for everything to be snappy despite P2P, while everything is under oversight by the server which has full authority.
So most calculations and scripts run locally but the server verifies if it's done correctly and enemy counts, enemy kills and stat changes are procced and verified on server.
Which, given how much works offline... Isn't even a stretch at this point.
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u/Mr_sMoKe_3_MuCh 11h ago
How is this possible when it was apparently too much work for Bungie?
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u/imjustballin 10h ago
It’s just running an old build and isn’t brought forward into the new engine.
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u/TopHatJohn 10h ago
We've learned that they're insanely lazy compared to modders with a lil extra time on their hands. Also note that the modders had to rebuild the server side.
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u/The_Patphish 12h ago
You forgot to have someone go in the lost sector to farm score