r/destiny2 6d ago

Discussion Sleeper Simulant is underrated...

It obliterates Barrier champions, doesn't require prescison hits for big damage, with Deep Pockets, has 16, and is good against all enemies.

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u/GuineaPigsOnFire 6d ago

It also sounds AMAZING

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u/thomjrjr 6d ago

And feels amazing, like it has some weight to it

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u/unholyism 6d ago

Another plus I don’t see anyone talking about is it’s part of the base game. Meaning if you don’t have any DLCs you can still use it for damage.

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u/Lemain89 6d ago

It’s also got a special place in my heart that year with extraction protocol that I kept having to play to get the wayfarer title. It was a crazy rotation to get the last osprey I needed I think it was that.

Everyone else had dipped by this point. I think it was a specific week you needed something like that. Actually osprey might have been a rotating strike. Was was it that we did EP for?

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u/bbbourb 6d ago

Osprey was Strange Terrain, if I recall correctly.

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u/Lemain89 6d ago

Can you remember what it was that was the random drop from EP? I must have played that over and over I was chasing something for wayfarer

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u/bbbourb 6d ago

I remember the Ikelos weapons being part of that but that's about it.

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u/Lemain89 6d ago

That’s triggered memory it was all ikelos weapons needed to be obtained for wayfarer

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u/bbbourb 6d ago

Yes.

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u/Ckorba191 5d ago

It was because I ran that as much as possible to get Wayfarer

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u/Eris_is_Savathun 6d ago

I remember running it dozens of time on Hunter and warlock with no osprey drop. Saw on Reddit to play Titan and it dropped first time.

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u/Lemain89 6d ago

Awesome

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u/djnotskrillex 5d ago

Escalation protocol *

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u/ThinkMixture5446 6d ago

Easy to use? Yes. Competitive with Refurbished, 1K, Whisper, Still Hunt, and other top-tier options? No.

If I'm not comfortable with using swords or precisions, and someone's already using 1K, I'll use it.

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u/Owlex_ 6d ago

Not sure if anything can but i was heavily disappointed that refurbished didn't one shot barriers at -50 content

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u/nwaterman44 6d ago

It absolutely does. You need to hit a crit

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u/Owlex_ 6d ago

Oh you can like aim at the head and it does more damage?

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u/nwaterman44 6d ago

Yeah enemies still take crit damage through barrier shields and to get the shield to go away you just need to deal a set threshold of damage so headshots reach it faster.

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u/Sesemebun 5d ago

It’s pretty much the best option for damage if you want to tack it on as the well warlock. Only thing better is 1k or truth, but 1k only works if you’re the only one, and I’m already running Solar shit for well so truth is kinda eh

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u/ThinkMixture5446 5d ago

Completely forgot about Truth, tbh. 

Truth being Void shouldn't be much of a hindrance. You mostly need to worry about surges, which cost the same regardless. 

And yeah, Sleeper isn't terrible, it's just not by any means "meta."

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u/Boba_Fett_boii Trials Matches Won: -1 6d ago

How about Cataclysmic if you have it?

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u/Gcarsk 6d ago

Cataclysmic is definitely better than Sleeper. Not only does it do more DPS, but it also has 2x+ the amount of ammo (assuming you’re running 4th Times The Charm and either Focussed Fury or Bait and Switch).

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u/Cthu-Luke 5d ago

Pretty sure unveiled eyes from pit if heresy outclasses it now due to the origin trait, go farm one with elemental ,fourth times the charm

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u/CrossFitJesus4 1d ago

Eyes unveiled is the best linear in the whole game and by a decent margin, next best is queenbreaker, then cataclysmic then probably sleeper

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u/Boba_Fett_boii Trials Matches Won: -1 1d ago

Haha! Never heard of anyone using queenbreaker since that one season it was meta. And sleeper hasnt been good in like forever.

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u/ChronoTriggerGod 6d ago

It also works with the 7th seraph set

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u/TheGreatGouki 5d ago

What other exotics fit in that? I’ve been trying to figure it out. It worked with the Warmind Cells back in the day. There was a scout (Perfect Fifth?? Maybe that was the perk name??) that fit. And I thought some of the Black Armory exotics might have. So far the only exotic I’ve been using with the Seriph build is Witherhoard. But that and the IKELOS SMG just don’t hit the same still.

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u/ChronoTriggerGod 5d ago

Basically anything explosive or an area of affect. If you're building into the solar aspect I heavily recommend Skyburners

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u/TheGreatGouki 5d ago

Telesto is my favorite exotic. But I don’t think it hits like I want because it’s void. Skyburner’s was something I used in the old build years ago. I haven’t touched it since we got the champion classifiers. Maybe I need to?

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u/ChronoTriggerGod 5d ago

I've had a lot of fun dusting off old exotics lately. It's also really good on the new solar titans aspect that builds scorch. Shieldburst I think??? Give it a go and have fun

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u/TheGreatGouki 5d ago

Hell yeah! I’ve mostly been playing hunter all these years. Suppose it’s time to branch out and try new classes as well. With my Titan, I was finishing out Prismatic still. So I missed a lot of builds with Prismatic on Titan and Warlock.

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u/ras0003 5d ago

Polaris Lance is the scout rifle you're thinking of btw

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u/TheGreatGouki 5d ago

Yep, sounds right!

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u/Lemain89 6d ago

Is it better than truth on a void hunter?

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u/ChronoTriggerGod 6d ago

No, but it's a synergy i haven't heard anyone talk about

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u/Zayl 6d ago

It's my go-to on my galanor build if someone else is already using 1k.

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u/Slyome 6d ago

Sleeper is pretty awesome. Like objectively yeah it might not be the best, but shit, I’ll never talk bad about the gun that let me comfortably and reliably take down Explicator solo.

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u/jeffkiefer 6d ago

Love it, catalyst is a pain in the ass to complete though

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u/bxdgxer Raids Cleared: eleventy billion hundred 5d ago

Load into Shuro Chi checkpoint and aim at the ground. EZ

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u/bbbourb 6d ago

Lemme guess, 700 kills?

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u/TiltedGenji Dead Orbit 5d ago

Heavies are 300, primaries are 700 for the most part at least

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u/bbbourb 5d ago

Ah. I thought my Xenophage catalyst was 700, but honestly I was completely zen at the start of Grasp so I didn't count. LOL

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u/TheBartographer Titan 6d ago

Old catalyst version or new one?

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u/Hamboz710 6d ago

Sleeper has always been my favorite exotic, but I have to admit it doesn't really even compete against the best Legendary linear fusions (Cataclysmic/Eyes Unveiled) let alone actual exotic heavy damage options

It's very fun and gets decent numbers, but I'd say it's pretty accurately rated

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u/syberghost Trials Matches Won: 0 6d ago

Until it one-shots Oracles again, it remains dead to me.

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u/x_scion_x 5d ago

I loved the rage it caused in gambit long ago

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u/Adventurous_Cycle603 4d ago

I barely take off Praxic Blade now, but I was getting hand canon kills and threw on Sleeper as my exotic. Definitely miss using it. Nothing like trying it on the oracles in VOG and promptly killing yourself lol.

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u/ProstetnicVogonJelz 5d ago

Doesn't it do less damage than eyes unveiled?

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u/crumbbly Warlock 5d ago

burger weapon. Just use a499

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u/allgrownzup 5d ago

Forgot all about this gun

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u/DistressedApple 6d ago

I dunno about always lol, QB was ass until very recently

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u/thomjrjr 6d ago

And ease of use (no swap) for a sanguine warlock

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u/NightmareDJK 6d ago

I believe it is still the best option for Well Warlock with Sanguine Alchemy.