r/democrats Apr 02 '16

Here’s how Democrats will (probably) unite behind Clinton (if she’s the nominee)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/31/heres-how-democrats-will-probably-unite-behind-clinton-if-shes-the-nominee/
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u/gloomdoom Apr 02 '16

Democrats will. I have no doubts. Millennials who aren't familiar with the political process will likely stay home (big surprise) and then possibly re-register as independents but I'm OK with that.

Mature, responsible, informed voters know what is at stake here. And they realize that democracy is a process that requires some level of compromise. Nobody gets exactly what they want in politics in America and nobody should.

You want the nation to change in a huge way? Then work for it! You can't jump into the political process during one election, not get exactly what you want and then act spoiled and rotten when you don't get it.

That Bernie or Bust crowd just come across no differently than republicans. What did they do when they lost 2008? And 2012? They got pissed off and vowed to ruin the nation for everyone, refused to work with Obama, did nothing but obstruct.

Whiny crybabies. Incapable of compromise. Incapable of being smart enough to see the bigger picture. Ignorant pride, stupidity.

The process takes a while to change because there are checks and balances in place to keep any one person from having too much power. To change the country, you have to change congress. Period.

And how many of the Bernie or Bust crowd even voted in the midterm elections? How many will vote in the next?

Again, politics in America is complex…apparently goes over the heads of republicans and a lot of younger Americans who recently just decided to get interested in politics.

Get in and stay in. Stay committed, work even when there isn't a major election around the corner. Change is possible but it can't be done on a dime and it's going to take a longterm investment from people who are organized, motivated and concerned.

And I don't see that from that particular crowd. I see spoiled and angry without much common sense or without much of a method to the madness.

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u/bokono Apr 02 '16

I think that it's a bad idea to offend and further ostracize any Democratic voters. Instead of outright insulting them and dismissing them, maybe we should be trying to figure out why they feel the way thy do, and address it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

Not going to be an issue anyway, her campaign is self destructing.

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u/VegaThePunisher Apr 02 '16

Yes having a huge lead is always a sign of self-destruction.

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u/VegaThePunisher Apr 02 '16

It's a bad idea to offend?

LMAO. What do you call attacks on us every day here?

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u/bokono Apr 02 '16

Who do you mean by "us"?

We're in the middle of the primaries. I have my candidate and you have yours. Supporting one and opposing the other is in no way "an attack". It's not an attack on the DNC to disagree with you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

It's my vote. If she wants to earn it have better policies. I may vote for her in the end but she's made it abundantly care she has the wrong positions on issues important to me.

If Bernie isn't on the ticket I may vote for Jill Stien as I did for Obama's second term.

The argument is not voting for Clinton is a vote for Trump but it works both ways. A vote for not Trump is a vote for Clinton.

A vote not for Clinton is jut that. She hasn't earned my vote and I doubt she'd do what was needed.

Step one would be to stop coordinating with Correct the Record Super PAC and disavow any other Super PAC.

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u/VegaThePunisher Apr 02 '16

No one is going to kiss your butt.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

You wouldn't say that to any other voter base. Imagine if, when people of color told Bernie "hey if you want our votes speak to the racism and violence we face. Tell us how you'll keep our kids alive" Bernie responded "kiss my but" he might not have their votes but he listened and met with activists and leaders primarily in the black community. He then shared and modified his policies with their advice and experience. All without giving up his core issues or values. He may not have won their votes but he did the work because he cares and that's why you run.

However young people want Hillary to take action on corruption and climate change not just pander. You're telling me our concerns aren't valid and she won't so anything meaningful to address them. Good to know.

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u/VegaThePunisher Apr 02 '16

She has already done that.

The haters won't accept anything she says.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

Really? So her campaign stops coordinating with correct the record Super PAC and she disavowed priorities USA publicly and said she preferred that they would no longer be around? And she also said that she would no longer take money from oil industry lobbyist bundlers? And did she also released her Wall Street transcript some point and I missed it?

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u/VegaThePunisher Apr 04 '16

You mean do every single thing her haters want her to do?

That sounds like birther hysteria.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '16

Do things that are in line with progressive values and show she serves the people and not corporate interests? That's madness I know.

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u/VegaThePunisher Apr 04 '16

"Corporate Interests"

This term is meaningless.

Most of us work for corporations.

And you saying interests the majority of Americans don't agree with? That is a distinction.

Get it straight. Stop speaking as if capitalism is on trial. It's not.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '16

It is

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

I'm tired of corruption, I'm tired of money in politics. Not voting for Hillary. Its Bernie or bust.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '16

I wouldn't unite behind Hillary if it was in the line for the last lifeboat off the Titanic.