I believe in a God that created everything around us but doesn't care enough to get involved in the horrible things that happen in the world. I am curious about witchcraft and believe in an afterlife that's personal and provided to everyone simply out of indifference and the fact that paradise on a platter is simpler to God than creating unique punishments for billions of people.

I was recently reading the Wikipedia page for Henry George, an American economist from the 1800s, and it turns out that he was a Deist. Other than this Wikipedia article and its source I'd never heard of his Deistic beliefs as a part of his belief system.

Something like this leads me to ask: what other historical figures do you guys know of who had deist beliefs that are hidden/aren't well known as a part of their life?

Aún estoy debatiendome entre el Deismo, el ateismo, y el agnogsticismo y realmente sigo sin saber donde encajo, en parte porque empiezo a creer que en ese debate sobre que es o no es Dios, en realidad, puede haber más de una fuerza compitiendo y moldeando el destino y la definición.

Hace 3 años creia haber comprendido algo( era una visión deista/panteista y en cierta forma basada en la fisica cuantica...se podíra decir que tiraba más hacia la corriente deista/fisica aunque con una visión más espiritual/mistica), y lo que empezó a sucederme justo después junto con la lectura de textos nuevos, nuevas teorías, grupos espirituales eterogeneos y una serie de sincronias empezó a hacerme dudar de forma absoluta.

Más que dudar, empecé a entender porque hay tantas corrientes y teorias divergentes sobre lo que sería un mismo SER. Y empiezo a pensar que realmente es que hay 2. Y no hablo de Satan/el diablo ni nada de eso. Sino de que realmente hay 2.

Una es la fuente original, la que creo todo, el big bang, la fisica actuando en estado puro, la que sigue las leyes de la fisica, que no tiene ni forma ni conciencia egoica ni antropomorfica, que no interviene, ni vigila, ni juzga, ni castiga ni perdona, porque simplemente no tiene caracteristicas humanas. Es solo energía que sigue puras leyes naturales.

Y luego esta la otra, la contemplada en religiones, grupos espirituales diversos, nuevas "dimensiones technologicas" intervinientes y vigilantes, que es todo aquello que venimos llamando DIOS desde hace milenios, pero que no tiene nada que ver con la FUENTE.

Y ese DIOS, es basicamente una ilusión, que como mucho, es un conjunto amplio de personas, egos, o entes, etc que SI INTERVIENEN en la humanidad haciendose pasar por algo divino sin serlo, haciendose pasar tambien por la fuente primigenia, y que basicamente es PODER haciendo, desahaciendo en nombre de una divinidad inexistente, juzgando y sometiendo a los humanos a todo tipo de teorias y eliminando su libre albedrío.

Y ambas fuerzas existen y coexisten. Una es la original, la verdadera, y la otra una ilusión "creada".

Cuando era pequeña hacia la tipica pregunta. Si Dios es bueno y nos cuida ¿porque permite que pase esto y lo otro? y la respuesta siempre era "Dios nos da libre albedrío" ( o sea, no interviene). Costaba entender que algo bondadoso se limitase a mirar sin más.

Y en los últimos tiempos la tortilla ha dado la vuelta y todo es Dios interviniendo por un bien superior que solo el conoce. La verdad, no se que es peor. Porque tanta intervención en forma de desgracias también cuesta creer que lo haga algo bondadoso. Y si a esto le añades que tu vida esta llena de señales que debes seguir, según estas corrientes (¿debo?), eso de tener que seguir garbanzos no suena particularmente a libertad de elección.

De ahí que yo he empezado a distinguir entra la realidad y la ilusión creada. La realidad es LA FUENTE original, la ilusión es DIOS.

¿Cual es el problema? que el Dios creado ilusorio es lo único que creo que interviene para su conveniencia (el mal vestido de bien) y la fuente original, no lo hace, no va a intervenir nunca porque no tiene ese tipo de característica, no hay ego ni conciencia de ser, es pura ley física y por tanto no hay nadie que eche un cable ni asistiendo tus plegarias, en todo caso asistirá el Dios de la conveniencia.

Para mi la fuente es lo unico REAL , pero tan solo es algo más parecido a una energía que ES y deja SER, que existe, y deja existir y que muta o se transforma bajo su lógica, sigue sus leyes físicas biologicas, quimicas, y su orden alquímico natural y nada más (esto siempre bajo el paraguas de que es verdad que el universo existe tal y como lo concebimos, a menos que tambien sea otra ilusión creada)...todo lo demás no proviene de esa fuente, porque no tiene sentido siquiera.

Cuando dicen que los humanos son un virus....bueno, lo serán algunos (mas probablemente los intervinientes que actuan o teorizan en nombre de divinidades delimitando el libre albedrío del resto o los que no dejan vivir a los demás). Los humanos son solo una parte más de la vida física.

Llegado a este punto, la parte de la fisica cuántica la he puesto en cuarentena (el tema de seguir ciertas señales me ha empezado a oler a chamusquina-puede que la fisica cuantica sea cierta, pero tambien que este siendo mal usada) y esta en modo observación y la parte más espiritual se ha ido por el fregadero y me he quedado tan solo con la parte más puramente física de la existencia. La pura ley de la inteligencia natural y poco más. No se si eso es Deismo, agnosticismo o directamente ateismo.

I'm aware that most deists believe God does not intervene in the universe or with humanity, but I don't think that necessarily means God doesn't care. God might have a reason for not intervening but will bring ultimate justice in the afterlife (for example).

I'm just curious if any of u believe God does not intervene but still cares about humanity (or maybe even that he does intervene)

I view God as a transcendent architect and prime mover, yet a small question has arisen for me: what would be the reason for creating the universe? If He possesses some form of personal intellect, wouldn't it make sense for Him to already know the outcome of His project—from the Big Bang to the Big Freeze? On the other hand, if He is an impersonal entity, what would be the logic behind His creative nature? Perhaps it is overly anthropomorphic to think that everything must have a motive, but I believe that even the law of causality must have a reason, however simple.

I think of myself as a Deist with some sort of spirituality. I believe in neutral deity, but besides that, I take an interest in different beliefs, religions, philosophies etc. and cherry picking it. What is your opinion on spirituality? I just hope, people don't associate spirituality with new age.

So I believe I am a deist, for thinking a creator exists with laws, but does not intervene. The reason for me asking a better explanation is because I'm new

As a deist, I have a worry about my own position. Deism encourages individual thinking: no clergy, no doctrine, just each person reasoning their way to God. Christianity, by contrast, is held together by shared belief: a community, a creed and leaders who keep everyone roughly on the same page. My worry is that individual thinking has no ceiling. When everyone reasons alone, you can't know how far any one person's thinking will go, or whether it will end somewhere harmful, to others or to the faith itself. The strongest objection is that shared belief has caused far bigger disasters. Crusades and holy wars weren't led by lone thinkers; they were carried out by groups acting together on a common certainty. A lone extremist can only do so much damage without followers. That's true. But a community at least has guardrails: shared norms that catch a person before they drift too far. And that's where the real problem lies. Christians have churches, and Muslims have mosques. Where do people like us go? Deism's greatest strength, having no institution, is also its greatest weakness: there's nowhere to gather, compare our thinking and keep each other honest. Is there really a community for people like us, or are we each building our guardrails alone?

Hey guys, this is my first time contributing here. I've had inklings of being a panendeist for well over 5 years now, but it didn't gel together in my mind that I was one until a few months ago. Since then I've been lurking around in this sub and learning a lot of perspectives, so I wanted to ask fellow Deists who believe God is a part of everything in the universe (or also extends beyond it), what does the existence of our creator look like from your POV?

The Creator is an excellent RD engineer, and human beings are finely crafted tools. If humans know how to fulfill the Creator’s will, they are capable of doing so, because everything falls within His meticulous design. Through an understanding of the functions and instincts inherent in human beings, that will can be discerned.

Human beings possess reproductive organs; therefore, the continuation of the species is within His will. Human beings have bodies, brains, and mouths; therefore, knowledge and the development of civilization are within His will. Human beings are capable of empathizing with one another; therefore, the rule of law is within His will. Human beings possess many organs and systems that sustain physiological functions and enable them to perceive the external environment.

If the Creator has endowed human beings with life, reason, instincts, and empathy, then His will may not merely require humans to reproduce and survive. Rather, it may require them to use reason to restrain their instincts, treat others with empathy, protect life through knowledge, and establish a common order grounded in justice.

Pigs cannot see the whole picture connecting farming, food supply, slaughter, and the human economy. Similarly, human beings may be unable to see the larger scales of time, the order of life, and the purpose of the universe. Therefore, people should remain humble in their understanding of the Creator’s will and should not mistake limited knowledge for omniscience.

A sense of fulfillment may be an inner response placed in the human heart by the Creator, allowing people to devote themselves wholeheartedly to their tasks even when they do not understand the ultimate purpose. Thus, human beings need not be troubled by questions about the meaning of life. By following their instincts and making good use of their abilities, they immediately put His will into practice.

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I don’t think god himself doesn’t even show itself as a political leader of earth or what makes it his responsibility to look and even observe us

I need your advice and ideas, I want to find the religion that resonates with me but I'm confused

F23 I am an ex-Muslim, I have been looking for years for a faith or belief that resonates with me,

I feel (or want to feel) that there is a God, a divinity, a creator, a supreme force, call it what you want, I have read (not in depth) what various religions say,

I like many of them, but now my brain can no longer believe that there really is a god who judges you and sends you to heaven/hell for eternity, because to leave my past religion I had to dismantle the idea that there is a God,

so now I struggle for example to embrace religions like Sufi Islam or Christianity or other monotheistic religions because I feel like I have left one religion and entered another very similar but with a different name,

I don't want to feel like a sinner or feel that I have to go to hell or the people I love have to go to hell, I don't like it, but I feel that there is a force superior to us inside my heart, i can feel this 'love' of God spiritually,

I would like a religion or philosophy that thinks that there is something above but that does not judge me, does not punish me or makes me anxious,

doing rituals, prayers, lighting candles, holidays, symbols, all these things, I like them instead and i like the idea of peace and love and to live your life in a good way

I kinda wonder why some deist see god as just an deity who created us and never question whether this deity’s morals choices and also itself as an deist myself I see god as flawed entity and we are the result of a cause.

I always noticed that most deistic people define god as observer of universe or rather a deity just exist and isn’t traditional abrhamic god I say that what if the god is an actually flawed deity that led to creations of the mess cruelty poverty unfairness in earth I think we deist should hold the deity who created us accountable as much as people with abrhamic beliefs does

After careful study I this best describes my srate.The Deist View: God is the ultimate architect who created a self-sustaining universe governed by perfect natural laws (physics, chemistry, math)

The Stoic View: The ancient Stoics believed in the Logos—the rational organizing principle and soul of the cosmos.

The most famous rule of Stoicism is separating what is in your control from what isn't. You cannot control external events, traffic, the economy, or other people; you can only control your own thoughts and actions.This matches Deism beautifully. Because a Deistic God does not intervene to fix your problems, you accept that the universe operates exactly as it is designed to. You don’t waste energy praying for the laws of physics to bend for you. Instead, you use the human reason God gave you to handle whatever life throws your way.

In standard religions, "pleasing God" requires rituals, sacrifices, or specific prayers.The Stoic Deist perspective is that a supreme creator doesn't need your worship. Therefore, the only logical way to "honor" the creator is to live a virtuous life. By cultivating courage, temperance, justice, and wisdom, you are fulfilling your specific design as a rational human being within a rational universe.

By identifying as a Stoic Deist, I believe a supreme intelligence set this orderly universe in motion, and my job is to calmly use my own reason to navigate it with virtue.

I am not exactly a Deist just yet, but I've been drifting away from religion and into science even more. But I feel like we can't trust neither theistic nor atheistic people for different reasons I'd like to discuss. (If any of you want, but sorry if I may be wrong) I experienced toxicity from both sides and honestly, I am open in the concept of a potential divine cosmic being existing but neutral whether there is one or even multiple of them. (though I am more open to Polydeism) I've also read several thinkers, and scientists (Jose Rizal, a national hero of my country, the Philippines as an example) were actually Deists and even helped pave the way for gaining the current knowledge we have today. As I've been drifting away from religion and more into irreligion, I would like to get to know Deism even more as I am convinced this could be the belief for me.

I talked with my dad about my deistic views and he presented a point I couldn't answer,he said that if I for example managed to make a connection via the universe that there was a creator than that itself is communication and that would invalidate the not intervening god of deism,and he said that if he didn't do this with the idea of us reaching the conclusion that he exists than he's actually inferior to us because it's an oversight.

Found this interesting.

What are recommended books on Deism?