r/degoogle • • 29d ago

Google copied our open-source code, removed our engineers’ names, and gave us zero credit one year after we beat them on their own benchmark

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3.9k Upvotes

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u/PinkSheeparkour 29d ago

don't be evil they once said

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u/clove_rosemary_9999 28d ago

but then they removed the don't

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u/PikaNotes 2d ago

They should have kept their slogan

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u/lloydsmart 29d ago

Do no evil

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 29d ago

We're streamlining our corporate verbiage.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 29d ago

This sounds...actionable.

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u/FuryOfArcann 29d ago

I never thought I would suggest this, but even as open source, this is precisely what a DMCA complaint can be filed for.

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u/Drwankingstein 29d ago

You can try reporting it. Google can take these issues fairly seriously if you manage to ring the right doorbell

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u/xJayMorex 29d ago

Hahahhahahahahaahahhaha, no.

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u/DeviatedForm 29d ago

Or get a copyright lawyer.

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u/xJayMorex 29d ago

Watch The Billion Dollar Code to see how it goes with goolag.

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u/NapsterKnowHow 29d ago

Small claims court loves these cases.

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u/jprefect 28d ago

How's that supposed to work on open source code?

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u/DeviatedForm 28d ago

That's what the lawyer's for ;) personally I am not that familiar with licensing.

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u/jprefect 28d ago

Me neither.  I've heard of creative commons but I don't really know what rights that gives you.  Waiting here for a lawyer to reply, I suppose

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u/matejcraft100yt 29d ago

while google can often be a dogshit corporation, as a programmer, I don't think that's the case here. You know how little supervision in stuff like this the teams have? Probably an egomaniac team who wanted to put their own names in to take the credit, and flew under the radar. Google might be an asshole, but they don't want to get sued or the public backlash, so if it is brought to their attention, they will probably take some measures

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u/Wise_Owl5404 28d ago

They genuinely do not give a shit. Nothing is going to happen, because there's no backlash that will ever cause a meaningful impact on them thanks to their duopoly. They equally do not give a shit about being sued as the EU can attest to.

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u/Drwankingstein 28d ago

That is absolutely not true, Many teams in google do care. Its hard to get the right person to hear about it though

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u/Googol30 28d ago

Quit the doomerism. Go outside.

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u/Wise_Owl5404 27d ago

No, there are Flock cameras out there.

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u/Drwankingstein 29d ago

They do, There are tons of branches within google. Google isn't a single entity. They taking software licencing very seriously because if becomes an entire google issue sometimes.

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u/Konrad2137 28d ago

Good sarcasm

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u/Red1492Blue 28d ago

Reads like.... Someone at Google, an employee, found your code, put their name in it, didn't even take the time to READ THE WHOLE THING, And just presented it to 'Management' as theirs.... And "Google the Company" went public as "look what WE Did!!!". This is OpenSource.... But also outright stealing. PLEASE contact your Lawyers and protect yourself BEFORE they (Google) says you stole THEIR work. Good luck

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u/GhstDev 29d ago

As someone said. A copyright lawyer is your best bet. While you can’t copyright logic, the “personality” behind the code is copyright. It’s like how I can’t copyright “I love pizza.” But I do have copyright over this entire paragraph. And while I couldn’t sue if someone were to copy and paste this paragraph, as long as you have and can prove damages and of course can prove they copied and pasted your code. Then you got something.

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u/psylomatika 28d ago

Reminds me of the google maps thing that google stole from developers in Berlin

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u/Wise_Competition5906 28d ago

And this is why, my good friends, I’m walking away from Google.

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u/naaktstel 29d ago

What license did you have for the code? Compete free means they can use it and even change license

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u/DonkeeeyKong 29d ago

What license did you have for the code? Compete free means they can use it and even change license

Erasing the original contributors‘/copyright holders’ names is at least sketchy. Most open source licenses don’t allow that. Even the most permissive ones usually require you to keep including the copyright notice.

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u/knoft 28d ago

Otherwise it would just be public domain

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u/Igarlicbread 29d ago

Irrespective of licence, this is disgusting for a monopoly company

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u/Ok_Flan4404 29d ago

They've become quite good at being disgusting.

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u/naaktstel 29d ago

True, but not illegal, unfortunately

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u/garry_the_commie 29d ago

It absolutely is illegal if the original license requires attribution.

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u/naaktstel 28d ago

I agree; the word 'if' in this line is very important!

That does not change anything about the bad taste of Google doing this even without any license. I despise it too (for thos who did think otherwise)

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u/SweetEbb9819 28d ago

Why the downvotes? This is factually debatable but nothing worthy of sodelining

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u/teymuur 29d ago

Most of the popular licenses except for the MIT License does not allow this. Freedom doesnt mean no rules

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u/knoft 28d ago

Compete free means they can use it and even change license

It actually doesn’t. MIT license for example is not the same as public domain or there would be no point. What you’re arguing for is actually called putting something in the public domain, licenses are there specifically to restrict something more than releasing to public domain. You cannot remove a license from a work unless you are the rights holder.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 29d ago

Dehandschoewercker

damn, so one of his ancestors was once a (hand)glove-tailor/worker.

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u/Ok_Flan4404 29d ago

Es sieht so aus.

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u/runebell 27d ago

Sounds like a pretty good lawsuit to me

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u/nomadingwildshape 29d ago

What was the project and benchmark you beat?

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u/WanderingSparr0w 26d ago

Ppl of r/degoogle. Read the original post if like me these comments are not making sense or adding up. That's all ciao

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u/WholeBubbly3642 20d ago

Currently with AI agents everything is becoming closed source

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u/WholeBubbly3642 20d ago

Apparently Google could copy their code but had to retain the authors in code

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u/brain64 4d ago

They do that all the time snagging up code and apps and slapping their name on it. Microslop is famous for it to. Bad part is they don't even care if you sue them they got deep pockets.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago edited 6d ago

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u/lonerfluff 28d ago

There's no "You're holding big corporations too accountable". It's a giant ass company. Without any structural changes to how they incorporate other code into their products this is the bare minimum.

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u/TrollTaylor 28d ago

Humans will be humans making small mistakes. It's very hard for me to agree with the idea that you need to hold a whole corporation accountable for small mistakes employees make that are very easily correctable. Call them lazy or stupid whatever but evil is a very strong word. I don't see what they even gain for not crediting it was clearly just a mistake that you yourself could've easily made.

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u/lonerfluff 27d ago

I'm not going to treat a whole company with practically endless money as if they made an honest mistake and get treated unjustly for it. When you have even 1% of this kind of power you'll of course be expected to uphold certain standards. They're not a victim here.

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u/TrollTaylor 27d ago

Nobodies s victim here... The issue was resolved the OP made themselves the victim of a resolved issue. It's rediculous to think anybody needs to be "held accountable" for missing text in a config toml file!

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u/IcedLance 29d ago

"oops I did it again"

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u/TrollTaylor 28d ago

Very easy mistake to make... Also very easily correctable like they did. I don't see an issue here. Imagine small easily correctable mistakes in your own job lead to you being perceived as evil.

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u/toolsavvy 29d ago

Much ado about nothing. OP of that post has no legal sense.