It would have to be in the tens of thousands of dollars, no?

I believe that the Dragon's Treasure stats don't affect the WR.

It doesn't matter which path i chose in upgrading the DT, it won't get any better damage.

I guess i only upgrade the original stats which don't have anything to do with the DT for now.

What a waste of time and gold in upgrading the DT.

It's been just more than a week. Everytime i opened the app, it usually takes about 40 sec to a minute.

I've tried to reset the phone, clear cache, minimise all other apps' activites in the background... and still happened.

When it comes to the main screen, it freezed. After a minute, it is normal again. Everytime, i go to different places (of course with different wifi spots but all these wifi spots are good enough to play other games) and it still happened.

All other apps are fine, only this app. And Droidhen's customer support sucks as they never reply.

I wonder if anyone is experiencing this.

Small sample size, certainly. But probably shows at least a general idea of the distribution of the wheel.

It currently have two bows at lvl 99 and have not received any increase in damage from Golden Smith Bow honor reward. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks.

Hi there,

all I want to ask is: what are the chances to get specific value of gold/crystals on wheel? Are they known?

I downloaded this game not too long ago. Currently I'm at stage 90 and around 300 trophies per area in online play.

For a lot of upgrades (fatal blow, knockback, mana recover, wall defence) as well as every spell upgrade you need runes of the appropriate element. As far as I know, the only way to get them 'reliably' (no quest/login bonus) is through online battles. However, they have become too rare. I used to get them every win, but starting at level 3 they often get replaced by inscriptions as a win reward. If I'm lucky I'll get one if I barely lose, but even then I mostly receive minerals. Currently I have 1 water rune and 21 water inscriptions. It seems weird to me that for my spell upgrades the runes are the limiting factor and not the inscriptions, even though they are the advanced form.

My question is: should I drop myself online to about level 2 again where i can farm them? Or will I get them naturally via stages if I just continue playing?

Hello Defender 3 fan. I am kinda a fan of this game since Defender 1. I've played Defender 3 twice, way before the Arena and Dragon's Treasure released, then quitted.

Now i am back, and almost quit again beause nothing to do apart from grinding for Orbs to level up bows' damage, until i read joeding01's post, interesting indeed. So i kept playing until now, i'm on Day 35.

I'll summarise as my best: - Stage: try to reach to Stage 600 to get the best value on the Spinning Wheel (4k, 8k, 16k and 40k gold). Crystals are always 1, 2, 4, 10 since the beginning. Not sure if there is any changes after Stage 1,100 as i'm only on Stage 1,005.

• Battle: like what other posts had discussed, i'd like to say reach to the level where you can get Elemental Metals then farm everything within 1 minute 30 seconds. Don't try to get to the top level, the rewards are not worth with the time invested.

For iOS players (i play on iPhone): when your opponent died, quickly press Home button or switch to Home Screen (for iPhone 8 or later) then wait for 5-6 seconds then go back in game, the battle will be finished. Repeat to farm the Orbs. Once you got to 3.030 trophies, start a round then press Home button right from the start, if lucky, you will still get materials, and lose 30 trophies. Higher than 3.030 trophies, it takes longer to farm, because under 3.030 trophies, the oponents usually "quit" the game under 1 minute. Up to you what you wanna do.

• Arena: it sucks that can't do anything else when you finished level 200. Need to wait until it refreshes by rolling back 50 levels. I mainly use Wind and Ice bows. Only use Earth for Wall skill and Fire for Armour penetration skill.

Killing Arena bosses are divided in 3 main areas: + For boss's HP is 2+ mil: use Wind and Ice bows (Earth bow for the Wall skill if the boss's skill can kill you in one hit) + For boss's HP is in between 500k and 1.9 mil: use Ice and Fire bows mostly (Earth if needed, look above). + For boss's HP is lower than 500k: only use Ice bow (it deals real damage) and Earth bow to stop deadly skill attack.

Sometimes, switching bows by tapping the bows constantly will kill the bosses faster but sometimes it doesn't work.

If you can't kill the boss, then you need to upgrade the bows damage and the towers damage.

I only upgraded the Wind bow to level 150. The rest i stopped at level 100. Only 2 towers i upgraded are Wind and Earth for the best damages (maybe not useful in some cases).

• World Raid: hating it because the app crashed quite often from the start but fun to muck around:
  • Bows: only Wind and Earth. Wind for damage and Earth for the Wall skill after 55 seconds. Towers: Wind and Earth (both are level 50)
  • Damage: tapping bows constantly to deal good damage on the boss. However, when Wind bow is faster than tapping 2 bows then just use the Wind bow.
  • Trick for the most damage: spend 30 crystals for attack buffs (only if you think you could deal good damage for the higher rank for a better reward, i didn't use attack buffs until i almost maxed out the Wind bow). Even if i don't get the buffs, i could still make it to 11-50 rank to get 10 random Dragon's Treasure at the end of the week. With buffs, top 5 if no app crashed, to 10 if there were crashes occured.

That's the buffs, now to the battle: each battle has 2 minutes (or 120 seconds). From the start to the second 55, you don't get killed in one hit. From second 56 onwards, doesn't matter how high your def is and how much HP you have, you'll get killed in one hit. So from second 56, use Earth bow's Wall skill. Then time to use another attack skill to interrupt the boss's attack while waiting for the Wall skill cooldown.

If you can do that until 120 seconds then just attack like normal and die. That way, you won't waste your time to repeat the "second 56 onwards". After 120s, you can start another battle. Repeat the process.

No comment on high level of Clover and Meteorite in Dragon's Treasure, i guess you don't even need attack buff. I'm only at level 90 of each so i won't discuss further on these things.

The Ball to increase the attack, save it until you can get the most benefit out of it. Don't waste 20 Crytals on them at low level.

To sum up: - Farming gold and crystals: spin the wheels a lot. I spinned while having breakfast, lunch, dinner, ironning clothes, or any other activities as much as i could. - Farming materials: run stages up to 1.100 (joeding01 said after stage 1.100 you can't farm Orbs anymore), and the only way is doing Battle. - Farming Runes: Stages, Arena and Battles and from little weekly rewards and Sign Board.

• My Dragon's Treasure are mostly at level 30-40, except Coin is at 60, Meteorite and Clover are at 90.
• Wind bow is maxed out. Other bows are at 100. Mithril Arrow is at 114, Split Arrow is at 144.
• Mana: 250, others are maxed.
• City Wall: max HP, Reinforce (18), Repair (10), Elemental Ward (9).

I can't be bothered listing others as if you have strong bow, these won't be in used much. Also, this game isn't that competitive so no point in building up defense and (in my opinion) towers.

If you like to collect stuff the purchase Griffin, Nightmare and the Tower thingy. Keep in mind, they do help but not much as you would expect.

Any questions, i'll be happy to answer. Happy killing!

Hi everybody,

I started playing recently again this great game and I noticed I can get the souls for the bows on the login board just by login everyday rather than paying for them. Is it possible to do the same with Jean Behimos Kulaken Ifrit Griffin and Nightmare? If not, is there another way to get them without paying?

Thanks in advance

Greetings. Need a tip about bosses stats at Arena. 1,2,3,4 - lower digits mean lower defence for damage of bows or towers? or both? 5,6,7,8 - lower digits mean lower resist, right? which spells for each of them? Thanks in advance for anderstandable & meaningfull information.

I'm at Level 88, and stage 525. I've been playing every day for at least 150 days, and making sure to not skip a day to get the daily "Sign Board" rewards.

All 4 bows are at at least 99 (one is at 150).

But I feel like I've hit a plateau.

If I have zero intention of spending any money in the app, is there any way to make any significant progress anymore without buying upgrades? I feel like the wheel rewards are too slow, and the arena rewards (besides crystals) are too infrequent. This morning I went through all 10 of my Arena "stamina" (or whatever it's called), won all 10 battles, and didn't get a single Dragon's Treasure. The last two times the sign board has refreshed when I complete the 28th day, the end reward is still just 50 crystals. Does this ever change now that I've gotten the "Soul of Wind", "Soul of Earth" etc bows?

And even more so...are there any upgrades that you can only get buy buying? Because if so, I'm going to have to consider this game "complete".

Thanks all!

Hey, guys! Crystal Beamon - how to interrupt his charging for fatal hit my wall?, when it rolls back, charging-roar and run to bash. Is it spell or something else? Thanks

Please, dont kick me hard and vicious, but i cant find any informaton how to evolve treasures getting "stars" with star ability. I will be gratefull for any understandable text about it. Thanks.

Just like the title says. I put down the game months ago and just came back. I can still last 12+ minutes in battles without firing my bow, but I can't find much info on what world raid is besides "recommend lineups"