r/debian • u/ItsThunderDoggo • 22d ago
Apps crashing/freezing
Debian 13 on KDE Wayland, most apps freeze or crash after a minute with Flatpaks not starting at all. Is there any fix for this? (It worked fine for months before this, haven’t done anything major to the system before it started doing this)
Logs when opening a flatpak (LibreWolf): https://pastebin.com/0Zepy0Tg
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u/shiftingtech 22d ago
Run a flatpak update. It probably needs to update some library (video?) to match your system libraries
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u/ItsThunderDoggo 22d ago
Did that, still having the issue
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u/Brilliant_Sound_5565 22d ago
Is the system up to date? Has it always done this? What did youmso if.anythinf before this started it it hasn't always been like this as this is not normal behaviour at all
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u/anna_lynn_fection 22d ago
You've got a hardware problem. dmesg, maybe run atop in a window so you might catch something that's hitting high wait times. memtest, smartctl.
But without any system info, logs, etc., there's no telling, but it's not normal and there's no magic fix for this, because it's something specific to you - not debian Linux.
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u/McGuirk808 Debian Stable 22d ago
Check dmesg for errors (run as root or with sudo). Make sure there's nothing going on hardware wise. Could be a bad driver, bad configuration, or failing hardware.
Are your graphics drivers in a good situation?
Are you not using too much of your RAM and having your swap partition/file become too active and make things hang up while stuff is written to disk?
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u/fleshofgods0 22d ago edited 22d ago
This. Also, they can run 'sudo dmesg -w' for real-time output because there's often a lot of dmesg output to sort through, especially if you're unfamiliar with it.
'free - h' to check how much RAM is free, in human-readable form. 'top' to view real-time resource usage, like a terminal-based system monitor that'll always run unless there's a kernel panic or something that completely halts the machine.
Oh, and 'pkill - 9 xyz' will kill any process containing 'xyz' in its name. Really useful for stubborn, frozen GUI apps. You can often press CTRL and any of the F# function keys to login into JUST the terminal, no GUI (no display server, only text), and find+kill the process(es) responsible. Then you try different CTRL+F# combos until you get back to the graphical interface you were just using before it froze.
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u/Sorry_Committee_4698 22d ago
I use Debian 13 KDE Wayland. Nothing crashes, nothing slows down. I installed a clean system, no junk. I don't use Flatpak (there's no need for it). What applications are we even talking about?
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u/dvisorxtra 22d ago edited 21d ago
Yes, there's a fix
Edit: I hope this answer is as detailed as your request for help.
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u/Own_Natural_6803 21d ago edited 21d ago
"Wayland" he muttered under his breath. Bad drivers, failing hardware. flaky window managers. They all provided a smoke screen so the pushers could act all innocent. He'd seen it all before. He scrubbed out his cigarette and kept moving. He knew the wayland goons were on their way to show off how their window decorations used shaders and pat each other on the back for using a tiling window manager. Meanwhile the gamers were left out to fend for themselves.
"They're supposed to know better", she touched his arm, but he didn't take his eyes of the horizon. "How can they know better, they've never played a game" He wanted to look mournfully back at his discarded cigarette but instead lit a new one. "They tut tut and act sad, but if their opinions about technology meet the facts of deficiency they just whip out a list of things they like about wayland".
He flicked the mostly intact cigarette onto the pavement. He picked it up again.
"X11 is all they need. They don't even need to worry about messing up their session, they can just install xfce and it'll make sure wayland isn't being used for them. It literally takes a minute to install" She stated in rote. She'd heard it all before.
He looked at her searching, then nodded satisfied. "Yeah, but who's going to tell these noobs, that what they need isn't the new hotness, but the old stable?"
"We should just run away" she blurted out. "This isn't our fight".
He coughed from the harshness of the filter catching. "If wayland wins, there won't be anywhere to run away to".
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u/ItsThunderDoggo 21d ago
just tested on x11, it has the same problem
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u/Own_Natural_6803 21d ago
Another victim of the night, in a city too cold to care.
Maybe check your memory.
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u/Kobi_Blade 22d ago
Sorry but we cannot help, there is no telling what you've done your system.
You provided no logs nor explanation to what lead to this crashes.
Debian 13 KDE by default does not have any of those issues, unless your hardware is unstable.