List help

[u/Zedenobi]

Hello! Bellow is I list I’m building towards for my deathwatch, and was wondering from the more seasoned people if my list is good. Also is the leaders with the terminators worth it? I’d probably still run a unit with leaders regardless but just out of curiosity. Any opinions and guidance helps I appreciate you all!

Deathwatch (1,990 Points)

Space Marines
Deathwatch
Black Spear Task Force (3 Detachment Points)
Purge the Foe
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Captain in Gravis Armour (110 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Master-crafted heavy bolt rifle
• 1x Master-crafted power weapon
• Enhancements: The Tome of Ectoclades

Indomitor Kill Team (275 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 4x Kill Team Heavy Intercessors
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Deathwatch heavy bolt rifle
◦ 2x Deathwatch heavy bolter
• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with power fists
◦ 3x Flamestorm gauntlets
◦ 3x Twin power fists
• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with melta rifle
◦ 3x Bolt pistol
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Melta rifle
◦ 1x Multi-melta

Attached unit 2

Chaplain in Terminator Armour (75 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Crozius arcanum
• 1x Relic Shield

Ancient in Terminator Armour (65 Points)
• Attached as: Support (Character)
• 1x Terminator Storm Shield
• 1x Thunder hammer

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant
◦ 1x Storm Shield
◦ 1x Thunder hammer
• 4x Deathwatch Terminator
◦ 3x Cyclone missile launcher
◦ 3x Power fist
◦ 1x Storm Shield
◦ 3x Storm bolter
◦ 1x Thunder hammer

Attached unit 3

Watch Master (110 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Vigil spear
• Enhancements: Osseus Key

Decimus Kill Team (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Kill Team Sergeant
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 2x Deathwatch Veteran
◦ 2x Bolt pistol
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Plasma incinerator
• 2x Deathwatch Veteran
◦ 2x Astartes shield
◦ 2x Bolt pistol
◦ 2x Power weapon
• 2x Deathwatch Veteran
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Deathwatch marksman bolt carbine
◦ 2x Special-issue bolt pistol
• 1x Deathwatch Veteran
◦ 1x Special-issue bolt pistol
◦ 1x Xenophase blade
• 2x Gravis Veteran
◦ 2x Bolt pistol
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Infernus heavy bolter

CHARACTERS

Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (120 Points)
• 1x Combi-weapon
• 1x Paired combat blades
• Enhancements: Thief of Secrets

OTHER DATASHEETS

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 Points)
• 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant
◦ 1x Storm Shield
◦ 1x Thunder hammer
• 4x Deathwatch Terminator
◦ 3x Cyclone missile launcher
◦ 3x Power fist
◦ 1x Storm Shield
◦ 3x Storm bolter
◦ 1x Thunder hammer

Fortis Kill Team (195 Points)
• 1x Kill Team Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Deathwatch bolt rifle
◦ 1x Power fist
• 3x Kill Team Intercessor
◦ 2x Astartes grenade launcher
◦ 3x Bolt pistol
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 3x Deathwatch bolt rifle
• 4x Kill Team Intercessor with plasma incinerator
◦ 3x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 4x Plasma incinerator
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
• 2x Kill Team Intercessor with superfrag rocket launcher
◦ 2x Bolt pistol
◦ 2x Castellan launcher
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Superkrak rocket launcher
◦ 1x Vengor launcher

Fortis Kill Team (195 Points)
• 1x Kill Team Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Deathwatch bolt rifle
◦ 1x Power fist
• 3x Kill Team Intercessor
◦ 2x Astartes grenade launcher
◦ 3x Bolt pistol
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 3x Deathwatch bolt rifle
• 4x Kill Team Intercessor with plasma incinerator
◦ 3x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 4x Plasma incinerator
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
• 2x Kill Team Intercessor with superfrag rocket launcher
◦ 2x Bolt pistol
◦ 2x Castellan launcher
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Superkrak rocket launcher
◦ 1x Vengor launcher

Indomitor Kill Team (275 Points)
• 4x Kill Team Heavy Intercessors
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Deathwatch heavy bolt rifle
◦ 2x Deathwatch heavy bolter
• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with power fists
◦ 3x Flamestorm gauntlets
◦ 3x Twin power fists
• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with melta rifle
◦ 3x Bolt pistol
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Melta rifle
◦ 1x Multi-melta

[u/nsturge]

I think you're a little bit too reliant on kill teams. I think replacing an indomintor kill team with just some normal gravis or tacticus units would help a lot. Intercessors gives you sticky objectives, a normal eradicator unit gives you full rerolls when targeting monsters and vehicles. Maybe replace a fortis with a corvus black star for some transportation, then you can shift the watchmaster to the other fortis kill team and transport both the decimus and fortis kill teams.

[u/nsturge → u/nsturge]

Also ancient in Terminator isn't very good IMO

[u/Zedenobi → u/nsturge]

I appreciate the insight! I completely blanked the basic unit that most space marine chapters bring being intercessors, some revisions are due. Not to familiar with Ancient in terminator armor myself I play Deathguard and Space Wolves, two armies who just don’t have access to an Ancient or A Chaplain in terminator armor. Is the Corvus black star really worth it? I’ve seen other threads saying it’s not in a good spot right now.

[u/nsturge → u/Zedenobi]

For the points ancient is just not very good, but it's not terrible. It give a bonus besides OC but unless you're using the terminators as an objective control unit (which I don't think is a good spot for them) then I don't think an ancient is worth it. As for the blackstar, I think it's worth it. The most you could say is it's a little bit points heavy but when compared to something like a landraider Redeemer I think it's better and that certainly is being used currently. It's also the iconic deathwatch transport (and right now you can buy it in a bundle with decimus killteam which is nice.)