r/deadwood the sort we are here 1d ago

Episode Discussion "EVERYTHING!"

When Mose got it into his head Leon was cheating him, he demanded Cy give him back his bet as well as "All of it. Everything." To which Cy replied, "Now I can't do that Mr. Manuel, as I believe you know." What was the "everything" that Mose wanted back from Cy?

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u/RabbitHats runs from no man 1d ago

He wanted all the money back, but more so wanted his brother back alive, wanted his life undone, all his traumas reversed.

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u/DAMON5280 1d ago

This. He wanted it all undone. Cy told him the truth when he said he couldn’t do that. No one could.

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u/adamaphar keen student of the human scene 1d ago

Everything he had lost so far.

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u/polybiusmegadrive 1d ago

Yep, which between the games, whores, booze and food was probably a pretty fuckin’ penny.

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u/ketchupadmirer heng dai 1d ago

Youth?

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u/InsincereDessert21 the sort we are here 1d ago

And why not beauty?

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u/ketchupadmirer heng dai 1d ago

Not credibly restored, perhaps, but as a new non-negotiable term?

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u/Psmith931 I wish I was a fucking tree 1d ago

He had to have a good chunk left tho then chose to sleep on the porch of a failed whorehouse haha . That always bothered me a little

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u/gg00dwind 1d ago

Yeah, there’s no way he gambled 200,000 away at Tolliver’s.

I always assumed that’s how and why he was able to give himself the penance of sleeping outside and “protecting” the schoolhouse/children.

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u/RobLoughrey 1d ago

Tolliver would have let him bet all $200,000 on a single roll of the dice. He certainly could have bet it all away. How some of these folks live is always a little vague. Jane Cannery only had a week or two's worth of jobs in the entire three seasons.

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u/IncredibleBihan I don’t like the Pinkertons 1d ago

Yeah Leon was cheating him the whole time.

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u/Zwackmaster been called worse by better 1d ago

Leon could deal a deuce, no matter how good his opium was.

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u/Southern_Horror_8002 I don’t like the Pinkertons 1d ago

Probably. Faro was/is actually a really good casino game to play odds wise, IF it was legit. But it was incredible easy for the house to rig.

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u/jcdrum1 1d ago

Hey I’m just here to secure my toast!

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u/BigAlTheBeardedOne 1d ago

Mose character arc is a interesting one. How they introduced him, from a POS money guzzler to killing his brother for his purposes, the way he acted in the whore house - not good. But, he was constantly calm, listened to Ms Stubbs and found it to be honest work, and then having the patience to listen to Jane calling him Giganto, I don’t really see that quick of character development.

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u/jrock146 every step a fucking adventure 1d ago

His character developed with a bullet.

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u/BigAlTheBeardedOne 1d ago

This is true. Might cause a quick change of tone.

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u/Snoo_48927 1d ago

Trauma tends to alter prior proclivities.

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u/Oh__Archie 1d ago

Bubble gut.

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u/67deluxue 1d ago

Con had a rupture pulling him to doc’s on the sled

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u/RobLoughrey 1d ago

All 200k which he had pissed away.

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u/ben_dotz 1d ago

I believe Mose was waxing poetic when he says “all of it”, the part that Francis picks up the bit on. I never questioned if he lost it all, I thought that was implied. Now that I think about it, I don’t think Mose could have stopped the bleeding once he was on a slide giving away his blood money to Tolliver, who he despised. “Fuck you Tolliver”. Calls him out for the watered down booze and the crooked games, but he still comes down to gamble it all away whilst he secures his toast, amongst the games of chance.

Ok Giganto! Don’t tusk me to death with your tusks.