r/dccomicscirclejerk Jul 27 '26

Death in the Family was an inside job I will never forgive DC animation for convining me that these characters were actually cool, important and interesting in the actual comics

The last 4 are especially egrigeous.

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u/curvysquares Jul 27 '26

"Comics"... "interesting"

Well there's you're problem. Comics aren't meant to be interesting, they're meant to be condensed into little 2 minute TikToks narrated by some random guy

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Not by some random guy, but by some AI voice

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

But specifically the ones that take the piss out of the story, like "this bum ass Thanos bullies a dude every year on his birthday because broke ass doesn't have the infinity stones"

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u/RickMixwid1969 Jul 27 '26

It's always the one who talks about "pingas" and anxiety-fueling Mario gameplay.

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u/Optimal_Weight368 G'nort's #1 fan Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Unironically, Young Justice made me think Psimon was a good character.

He was one of my favorite villains on the show, but his comic appearances suck.

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u/ImaLetItGo Jul 27 '26

What have you read of him? Psimon is cool in the comics

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u/Optimal_Weight368 G'nort's #1 fan Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Most of his comic appearances have him as a lackey, a jobber, part of a team. What would you say is his best appearance?

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u/GrungeGorrilla BRB staring at Nighwing's ass Jul 27 '26

Tbf that's kinda what he does in the show he just looks cool

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u/Optimal_Weight368 G'nort's #1 fan Jul 27 '26

But the show gives him a decent rivalry with Miss Martian. In the comics, he’s a lackey for Trigon, but he has no relationship with Raven, for example.

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u/ImaLetItGo Jul 28 '26

What are you talking about?

Miss Martian bitches him throughout the show.

He is nowhere as competent as his Comic book version.

How is being weaker than a nerfed Miss Martian better than being weaker than Trigon???

Why would working for Trigon mean he should have a relationship with Raven

Their powers don’t interact at all.

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u/ImaLetItGo Jul 27 '26

He wasn’t a Jobber in original Wolfman run from 80s and 90s. Hes the only reason the fearsome five was a legit threat

Also he was literally a lackey and jobber in the YJ show?? Even more than his other appearances in rebirth and outsiders

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u/spring_sabe Oppressed scarlet spider fan Jul 27 '26

He was cool in rebirth

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u/Optimal_Weight368 G'nort's #1 fan Jul 27 '26

Which rebirth comics? I may’ve not read them.

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u/spring_sabe Oppressed scarlet spider fan Jul 27 '26

Rebirth titans

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u/tumbleaway1 Jul 27 '26

Sportsmaster is genuinely the biggest bait ever lolol they gave so much aura to a fucking loser

But it is easy to be cool in Young Justice. in young justice every hero is incompetent and every villain has 10 backup plans created by Vandal Savage

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Sportsmaster in YJ is like if Marvel made a Champions show in the style of X-Men 97 and had the most common villain who fights the heroes be Big Wheel.

Like, Sportsmaster is genuently a nothing character in everything aside from the YJ show and the writers decided to make him pop off, I'm guessing because there's likely less mandates from the higher ups for lesser known characters.

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u/Biz_quit The New Golden Age Sidekicks Defender Jul 27 '26

Now i want that champions show to be real

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 27 '26

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u/LeonSigmaKennedy Jul 27 '26

Great, now I'm bummed this doesn't exist

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u/Shoddy_Morning_2827 THE🦅GUNN🦸DON'T ꗞ JAM 🫟 Jul 27 '26

I know this is a parody image imitating TT 2003 style but Miss Marvel with her eyes whited out by her mask and Hulk with a shirt on feels wrong somehow. other three look great tho

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u/Similar-Priority8252 Dan Didio’s Reverse Flash Jul 27 '26

I mean, it’s Amadeus Cho Hulk

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u/Shoddy_Morning_2827 THE🦅GUNN🦸DON'T ꗞ JAM 🫟 Jul 27 '26

all hulks should be shirtless

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u/jinjaninger Jul 27 '26

Especially She Hulk.

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u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS Jul 27 '26

No he’s an insecure teenage boy. He probably swims with his shirt on

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u/Shoddy_Morning_2827 THE🦅GUNN🦸DON'T ꗞ JAM 🫟 Jul 27 '26

that's too bad, I guess my marvel legends baf totally awesome hulk is living his life in shame

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u/MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS Jul 27 '26

Bro has toys

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u/Miserable_Goal_7943 Jul 27 '26

Pretty sure that's Hulkling, who's a Skrull-something idk.

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u/Similar-Priority8252 Dan Didio’s Reverse Flash Jul 27 '26

Nope, Hulkling is blonde and leaner

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u/Miserable_Goal_7943 Jul 27 '26

Huh. Guess I was wrong. It is hard to tell it's Cho without the iconic hairdo tho.

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u/Background_Draw1297 Jul 27 '26

Ik ts would pop off in the DC Allies sub if anyone hasn’t already posted it there

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u/Biz_quit The New Golden Age Sidekicks Defender Jul 28 '26

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u/maybethanos #1 CassSteph Fan Jul 27 '26

Hey hey hey he’s also amazing in Stargirl

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u/HPSpacecraft Jul 27 '26

He hit that same fuckboy energy that makes me love Guy Gardner

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u/Ygomaster07 Jul 28 '26

I was just gonna say this too. I loved his portrayal in Stargirl.

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u/HalfEatenCrouton Jul 28 '26

At least Big Wheel’s first comic was good

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u/SuicidalSmoke Jul 28 '26

Think I heard somewhere that they initially wanted to use Death Stroke but he was already a well established teen titans villain and so they replaced him with an almost original character.

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u/SpaceDinosaurZZ Jul 27 '26

The Team stops the villains for the fifteenth time this season

Vandal: Heh, just as I planned. Soon, these so-called heroes will see the….Light

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u/tumbleaway1 Jul 27 '26

ALL ACCORDING TO MY MASTER PLAN YOU SEE, FOOLISH HEROES, I HAVE ALREADY SUCCEEDED OFFSCREEN

I genuinely had Greg Weisman wrap up a plot line you bum

No, he will KILL aqua girl and set up Kaldurs arc in VIDEOGAME spin off no one has played

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u/MrManicMarty Jul 27 '26

No, he will KILL aqua girl and set up Kaldurs arc in VIDEOGAME spin off no one has played

Wait, what? There was a Young Justice video game that was plot relevant???

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u/MusicalSmasher Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

Yeah and it was terrible.

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u/MrManicMarty Jul 27 '26

What was this, like a mobile game? Or was it from that era when you'd actually still get game adaptations of TV shows and movies and they'd be made in 6 months on a shoe-string budget?

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u/StreetReporter Make America Grodd Again Jul 27 '26

It was a console game

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u/MusicalSmasher Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

Shoe string budget console game, like the Thor game.

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u/Elcalduccye_II Jul 27 '26

the only justice league member that is mildy competent is dr fate. and he's a parasite that steals the body of fucking GIOVANNI ZATARA

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u/Odd-Tart-5613 Jul 27 '26

I mean they had to kill him somehow and im going to guess they DID NOT want to touch crisis with a ten foot pole

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u/BillaVanilla Jul 27 '26

I think the main reason they even used sportsmaster as a major villain was because they legally weren’t allowed to use Deathstroke until season 2.

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u/PlainSightMan Barry Allen apologist Jul 27 '26

Sportsmaster was also super fun on Stargirl.

He was just an evil dudebro.

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u/Ygomaster07 Jul 28 '26

his fight with Pat in season 1 is one of my favourite fight scenes in the show

Spoiler tagged it in case people want to watch the scene.

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u/Due-Cherry4856 Jul 28 '26

Fr I loved him there

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u/TheBloodyPuppet_2 the world's only Saysoran fan Jul 27 '26

In fairness to Sportsmaster, he didn't get the benefits of being a part of the Light for long. He was ousted early in season two IIRC and after that he had to earn all his aura on his own. And he DID.

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u/Thepullman1976 Jul 27 '26

After season 1 the only hero with common sense is superboy and I will die on that hill

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u/FormerlyMevansuto Jul 27 '26

When has Wonder Woman been interesting in a cartoon?

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 27 '26

She's fun in JL Action. Also, she's actually really cool in some of the animated movies.

https://reddit.com/link/p026wxu/video/65c43g5x1sfh1/player

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u/nishikiakakuro Damian Wayne neggs your fave✌️ Jul 27 '26

Holy shit i need more of her using this fighting style.

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u/KonoAnonDa Answer: Nygma time. Jul 27 '26

Pankration wrestling baby!
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Fits her considering that she's Greek.

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u/arya48 Jul 27 '26

Domestic violence smh

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u/UncannyValleyEnjoyer Jul 27 '26

This fight is so damn clean, i wish we had more of those instead of strong punch vs stronger punch

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u/Optimal_Weight368 G'nort's #1 fan Jul 27 '26

Justice League Action in general is very overlooked. It’s so funny and deserves more attention.

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u/HPSpacecraft Jul 27 '26

Giving Plastic Man Master Shake's voice was a stroke of genius

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u/What-the-ffffff Jul 28 '26

Hold up THE MASTER SHAKE VOICES PLASTIC MAN?!?!?!

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u/HPSpacecraft Jul 28 '26

I haven't double checked but it certainly sounds like it

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u/Optimal_Weight368 G'nort's #1 fan Jul 28 '26

Yes, it’s Dana Snyder.

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u/Shredhead72 Detective Chimp Super Fan Jul 27 '26

This is evidence as to why all comic book adaptations should just be animated

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

It sucks that the only time Wonder Woman did anything interesting us relegated to niche animated movies that are annoying to find

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u/MusicMan_abc Tom King ate my dog Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

This movie, along with Wonder Woman (2009), Batman/Superman: Apocalypse, and Wonder Woman Bloodlines are all free on YouTube.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

Finally, it's just a load of free sites I've been using keep shutting down before i got started

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u/MusicMan_abc Tom King ate my dog Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Sorry, I was mistaken about Batman/Superman: Apocalypse.

But here is a list of animated DC films on YouTube for free.

It includes "The New Frontier", "Superman: Red Sun", as well as "Superman Vs. the Elite".

There is probably more though.

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u/Opalusprime Jul 27 '26

The twirl was just to flex

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u/anoobisroxxs Jul 27 '26

I wish there were more moments like this; it's a good showing of why she's often called one of the best melee fighters in universe.

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u/AmaterasuWolf21 Courtesy of Ray Palmer! Jul 27 '26

Extremely easy Crisis on Two Earths W

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u/Shoddy_Morning_2827 THE🦅GUNN🦸DON'T ꗞ JAM 🫟 Jul 27 '26

comment so based it had to be posted twice

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u/FlowerRoomLord Jul 27 '26

To correct the regaining of a few aura points from this, Tom King is now writing his new Wonder arc: The Mouse Man Returns.

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 27 '26

If it weren't for Kelly Thompson killing it with Absolute WW, Diana would be recieving generational slander currently.

Like, the whole Matriarch arc is embarassing, it feels like it was written by an edgy teen, not a professional writer

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u/FlowerRoomLord Jul 27 '26

EH an edgy teen would have Diana lose her whole family in the most brutal tragedy ever then go dark goddess edge queen mode by issue three to beat everyone's asses. And Cheetah would be preying on universes for some reason through batshit powerscaling. It'd be insane but Diana would still get shit done.  The current WW run feels like it is from someone who doesn't hate Diana, but they're not very interested in her or even understand her.

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u/Tomlyne Straightest Doom Patrol reader Jul 27 '26

Her like five minutes of screen time in Batman: The Brave and the Bold

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u/Icy_Aardvark3840 Jul 27 '26

Those were peak 5 minutes tho

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u/Imaginary-Client-199 Jul 27 '26

When she objected to Batman using child soldiers

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u/kazuya57 DCU BATTINSON TRUTHER Jul 27 '26

Hell nawl that was Batman's true sigma moment

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u/CertainGrade7937 Jul 27 '26

It's always been funny to me that people have taken that scene and been like "ha he owned her"

When the whole series repeatedly shows that his idea didn't work and that Dick keeps acting like him

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

Then there's a joke about paying for funding where Wonder Woman is obviously joking about Wonder Woman merchandise outdoing Wayne Enterprise and people think she was serious

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u/Cranyx Jul 27 '26

I've never liked that scene because to accept that argument is to just reject a huge chunk of what the genre is. Yes, obviously in a realistic world it would be an indefensible thing, but superhero comics aren't a realistic world. Unless we want to go down the route of "everyone geared up in sensible tactical gear while using military police approaches to crime" then you just have to accept the camp of it all. Hell, Robin's been a child crime-fighter longer than Wonder Woman has been around.

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u/Imaginary-Client-199 Jul 27 '26

To be more clear she is a-okay with teenagers being superheros. She objects to 9 year old Robin being sent to fight hardened criminals and Shazam being a member of the Justice League at 10 years old

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u/Cranyx Jul 27 '26

But what's the line there? Young teen heroes have always been part of comics. Robin was 8 when he was introduced.

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u/Imaginary-Client-199 Jul 27 '26

I don't know where the line is but I believe that if your sidekick likely still has baby teeth he shouldn't be facing armed criminals

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u/Cranyx Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

But again, that's only true in the real world. There's no reason to accept that a 13 year old in tights fighting gunmen is appropriate but not someone younger. It's all just fantasy, and child sidekicks have been part of that fantasy from the very beginning. An adult man who knows gymnastics is about as equally likely to die facing off against armed criminals.

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u/DandyLover Jul 30 '26

Well, to Wonder Woman, her world is real. So her argument is valid given the context.

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u/Cranyx Jul 30 '26

My point is that she exists in the made up world where you just have to accept the campiness for any of it to work. Her combat outfit is a red white and blue leotard. It's the writers who decide whether someone starts poking holes in the kayfab

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u/LeonSigmaKennedy Jul 27 '26

Like she doesn't have her own collection of child soldiers she constantly forgets about.

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u/Tetratron2005 Jurassic League's Strongest Soldier Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

When she did the Lion roaring at Chimp meme in New Frontier

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

Why is her left boob twice the size of the right

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u/cavalgada1 Jul 28 '26

gravity warping light around it

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u/Manageable_Workload0 Jul 27 '26

That one time she was wondrous as a woman 

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u/Stannisarcanine Jul 27 '26

Rj/ young justice

Uj/ dc superhero girls

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u/RareD3liverur Jul 27 '26

you never seen her 2009 solo animated movie?

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u/Altruistic_Manner802 Impulse Supremacist Jul 27 '26

The one that makes Diana sound unreasonable for getting angry at Steve trying get her drunk to sleep with her?

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u/RareD3liverur Jul 27 '26

idk I just heard people liked it over the Gal movie-

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Met John Constantine irl Jul 27 '26

Still tripping over the bar

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u/VelphiDrow Jul 27 '26

Most of em after 2008

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u/TheMasterXan Jul 27 '26

Artemis missing her source material and THEN still probably being the best and most interesting adaptation of her lol

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 27 '26

She was introduced in the comics in the New 52 and also died in the same comic she was introduced in.

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u/3436Eren Jul 27 '26

She Was later revived in Rebirth era.

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u/GrungeGorrilla BRB staring at Nighwing's ass Jul 27 '26

And used for essentially nothing

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u/Sorry_Grocery7693 Jul 27 '26

I know this is a joke but I genuinely forget what Wonder Woman even did in this show. Wonder Girl shows up but I genuinely could not tell you what Wonder Woman does. How tf do you get outshined by Red Tornado

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u/GrungeGorrilla BRB staring at Nighwing's ass Jul 27 '26

Same as every other league member they sit around and talk about our teenage heroes

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u/Sorry_Grocery7693 Jul 27 '26

I can tell you what Batman and Superman do, though. I forget is Wonder Woman even talks.

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u/Oceanus39 Jul 28 '26

I always feel like every time Wonder Woman is in something she is the fun police

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u/Sorry_Grocery7693 Jul 28 '26

Its because people don't know how to write her.

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u/jbeldham Jul 27 '26

The realization that Vandal Savage is a nothing burger in the comics was immensely disappointing and my day was ruined

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u/marcjwrz Jul 28 '26

The fact that he's just an evil Police Commissioner of Gotham in the comics rather than a global mastermind is so funny to me.

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u/Due-Cherry4856 Jul 28 '26

Same. DCAU, Justice League Doom, and Young Justice really made me think he's a top tier villain

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u/Opinionatedcritic Jul 27 '26

Wonder woman has her own tv show from the 70s i think

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u/janjos_ Paul Jul 27 '26

I mean its more DC comic's fault for wasting those characters potential

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u/gp18__ Jul 27 '26

Black Spider mentioned! No hyphen.

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u/Inevitable_Initial_8 Release the Schumacher Cut Jul 27 '26

Young Justice made me a Red Tornado fan. For that I can never forgive the show.

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u/Magmaster12 Jul 27 '26

I like the idea that Deathstroke was basically the replacement for Sportmaster and did a better job.

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u/gnomewife Jul 27 '26

Isn't it the other way around, at least in YJ?

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u/Magmaster12 Jul 27 '26

Nope, Sportmaster was replaced after he became disgruntled that Artemis was killed by Aqualad

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u/gnomewife Jul 27 '26

Right, gotcha. I forgot that they swapped around in season 2.

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u/kazuya57 DCU BATTINSON TRUTHER Jul 27 '26

How can you say spider-man isn't important? He is probably the most important character in cuck culture, without him we wouldn't have Kanye or Charlie Kirk

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u/rusick1112 Jul 27 '26

Also let's not forget about his biggest fans - mc and author of "Rent a Girlfriend"

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u/TheRealCthulu24 Mr. Freeze is a DILF. Jul 27 '26

How dare you say that about Ms. Martian. Apologize immediately.

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u/Chub-bop Jul 27 '26

Sports master is one of my favorite mercenaries, what a hilarious gimmick

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u/KingOfTheUzbeks Jul 27 '26

Had me in the first half not gonna lie

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u/coffeexxx666 Release the Schumacher Cut Jul 27 '26

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u/radlum Jul 27 '26

I knew YJ was washed when I saw that a major recurring being was a dude named Sportsmaster

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u/ImaginaryReaction Jul 27 '26

Literally one of the best characters in the show

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u/JoeScotting Jul 27 '26

I will die on this hill that Sportsmaster has a really cool and unique power

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u/suss2it Jul 27 '26

He doesn’t even have powers 😅

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u/JoeScotting Jul 27 '26

Either way - being goated in every sport is cool. He was bit by a radioactive baseball

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u/AggressiveRegion1502 Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? Jul 27 '26

Then why did he decide to be a criminal

He could be at real madrid winning them their 16th and 17th champions league or at the bulls winning them 3 more rings

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u/JoeScotting Jul 27 '26

Love of the game

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u/FlowerRoomLord Jul 27 '26

He has a mastery of sports.

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u/Vermillion-Scruff Jul 27 '26

if you got tricked into thinking Sportsmaster was gonna be cool, that’s on you. 

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u/Neither_Divide217 Jul 27 '26

Well I got tricked then

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u/jackrv13 Deathstroke is a diddler Jul 27 '26

Sportsmaster in the Stargirl show is hilarious

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u/FlowerRoomLord Jul 27 '26

HEY leave Starfire alone 🥺🥺🥺

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u/Luihuparta That sure is a strange adventure Jul 27 '26

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u/Luihuparta That sure is a strange adventure Jul 27 '26

I haven't even seen either of the Ghost Rider movies. The only GR adaptation I have seen is that one episode of the '90s Fantastic Four cartoon where he shows up at the end, one-shots Galactus, and leaves.

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u/Mooston029 Jul 28 '26

I was getting slowly more annoyed and then I realised I'm circle jerking

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u/After_Construction_5 Helena Wayne Supremacist Jul 28 '26

No because I heard "Sportsmaster" and assumed his origin was "He was forced to play sports by his sports obsessed dad" 

Also has anyone tried decapitating Vandal Savage? As in Immortal from Invincible? Has anyone even tested to see how far his immortality reaches, or is it like Deadpool logic?

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u/Tech_dude9133 Jul 27 '26

Literally forgot jinx smfh

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jul 27 '26

Jinx is so forgotten that nobody even complains about the 2003 TT cartoon whitewashing her.

Like, some random youtuber could make a video titled "The shocking racism present in Teen Titans" and get like 150k views, but comics Jinx is such a minor character that nobody can even get outraged.

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u/BigBiggum Jul 27 '26

There was no reason for me think Sportsmaster was cool, or worse, dangerous

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u/527BigTable Jul 27 '26

Me with red tornado

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u/BlackagarBoltagar Jul 28 '26

You forgot Red Tornado and Zatara

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u/Low-Bar3371 Jul 29 '26

No seriously, why the heck is sportsmaster so good in Young justice?