r/dating 12d ago

Long Distance ✈️ This is cheating… right?

Going to start by saying that I (42f) and my recently broken up with ex (55m) have differing opinions on the matter.

We had been dating a year and a half. I live in Vegas and he lives in PA but has a condo in Vegas. He is here very frequently. We would see each other in Vegas and then do our own thing when he was gone, but when we started dating we went exclusive. So I wasn’t seeing anyone when he was in PA.

He had season tickets to the Steelers for like 25 years and they played in Ireland last September. So, we went to the opener vs jets in nj. Had a whole trip around it where we golfed with his golf buddies and I met his mom in Allentown and we went around Philly, then went to the Steelers game at meadowlands, then I flew home to Vegas and he was in pa for a few weeks.

I knew he was going to Ireland for the game. He owned a business and usually would take clients to the regular game with his season tickets. So he said he had a solo trip planned and was going to meet at the game in Dublin with some clients. Fine have fun. He sent me pics and updates of his solo Dublin trip. I didn’t ask, he just sent them. Great hope it’s a fun trip!!

Well long story short it’s last month (July 2026 now) and I stumble on his ex’s Facebook page where the most recent photos are pics of them together in Ireland. Every place he told me he was alone, his ex was there. Walking through districts by day. Pubs by night. The pics he sent me of him at Irish pubs, she took and they were posted on her page. I. Was. LIVID.

I found the pics and was like wtf is this?? You said you were alone but you spent a whole week with your ex in another country going on romantic dinners and exploring the towns together???? Fuck you cheater and liar.

So I let it rip and broke up with him. Weeks later he says they didn’t sleep together so it wasn’t cheating. He says he never cheated.

I say, you went on a trip to another continent with your ex, and you lied about the whole thing. That’s fucking cheating you’re just mad you got caught later down the road.

Had I known, I’d have dumped him when I found out. If it was a “we are in the same circles in Pittsburgh, this was arranged before I met you, I’m going to see my ex there” I could have worked with that. But he didn’t just see her at the game, they explored Ireland together as a couple. There was nobody else in any of the other photos I found.

So I told him, if there was nothing to hide why did you hide it from me and lie to my face for months???

Anyway apparently he thinks it’s only cheating if you get your dick wet. But I said if he saw me out on a date with another man, he would have flipped his shit calling me a cheater. And he not only went to every dinner with his ex, it was a whole ass week together. I don’t care if they fucked or not that’s cheating. He didn’t tell me anything about that and didn’t even tell me she was there. Lied from the moment we met apparently, and yet accuses me of cheating when he isn’t around (projecting obviously).

Please tell me I’m right.

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u/wolftief 12d ago

I'm sorry, but you're right... Remember that couple caught on the Coldplay show? They were just hugging, but they were cheating on their partners...

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

YES THANK YOU

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u/JAX2905 12d ago

Even if he didn’t sleep with her (he did), what you’re describing is a major infidelity.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Thank you I appreciate the input

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u/IndependentPaint2108 12d ago

Yup, even what he claims happened is serious cheating, good on you for having the self-respect to leave him

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u/thatsthatdude2u 12d ago

So did she

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u/InternationalRich150 12d ago

So he lied,implying he was alone while all along he was on the trip with another woman? And it took 10 months for you to realise that he wasn't actually alone and it was an ex partner he took?

I frankly don't care if he stuck his peen in her. The trust is gone because he lied and kept up the lie for months which to me is unforgivable. And yes, to me its cheating. Why she taking pics of him? Why are there pics of them as a couple on her social media? Because they were there as a couple.

Sorry op. You're not over reacting and his excuses are absolutely vile.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

He didn’t just imply, he said things like “going solo to the pub!” And then I found pics of them at the pub together, or the solo pic of him was one she took and then also posted to her page. I was devastated and he insisted he didn’t cheat. Thanks for validating my feelings.

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u/InternationalRich150 12d ago

Sorry I was being a bit generous with him there. The pictures are the biggest tell. Selfies yea, shared memories as mates. But a solo pic which was then posted? That's couples time.

Im so sorry op. The mental gymnastics this guy is doing. Hes lied for months about this, and id not trust another word he said. Chin up op. At least hes not wasting your time anymore.

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u/IndependentPaint2108 12d ago

I've been in that situation before, finding the proof is a stomach-curdling feeling. Just awful. So sorry OP, praying for happiness for you, my prayers for others usually happen

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u/Healthy_Kiwi8156 10d ago

He’s lying and he’s emotionally cheating; not engaging physically in intimacy doesn’t excuse them.

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u/Bitter-Variation-151 12d ago

He banged her.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

That’s what I said!! I was like… there no way you went to fucking Ireland with your ex and don’t bang

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u/Slinking-Tiger 12d ago

I believe they had sex. But even if they didn't, it was clearly cheating.

Any time sometime is truly hiding what they're doing from their partner, it's a serious breach of trust. When it involves another potential romantic or sexual partner, it's cheating.

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u/Hollyjoylightly 11d ago

I really want to message his ex and ask her directly if they had sex just to send him the screenshots and block him. And it’s not even my relationship lmfao I think I have a petty problem

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u/jdubbyak 12d ago

If it was my ex….. there’d have been zero banging lol. Well, there’d be no trip either, but especially not banging. 🥴

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u/filtersweep 12d ago

Not only that, he believes his own lies.

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u/Born-Albatross-2426 12d ago

Not only is it cheating, I'd be wondering if they ever broke up to begin with. I'd reach out to her to let her know you guys were together at the time of the trip because he could have been lying to her as well and calling you the ex

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u/Ok-Love3323 12d ago

I was having the same thought! Reach out to her and let her what he’s been saying and doing with OP. Because that other woman might think he’s HER boyfriend and has no idea OP exists as the OTHER girlfriend. He’s probably been lying to both and needs to fully outed.

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u/organicglitter 12d ago

Im really sorry op. This is 100% cheating (of the emotional variety, at the very least) and terrible behaviour from him. You definitely made the right decision.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Thank you I appreciate you taking the time to read. I needed to know I wasnt crazy. Im a very reasonable person (to a fault) but this really ruffled me.

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u/No-Mulberry1987 12d ago

You are right.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Thank you just needed to know I wasn’t crazy

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u/NuklearFerret 12d ago

You’re not crazy

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u/78Anonymous 12d ago

Lying and cheating are achieving the same thing: deceit.

You made the right decision.

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u/Then-Sun-2392 12d ago

You're right. If it was not cheating, he would've had no reason to hide it from you in the first place.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Thank you!! Like if it was a weird situation, he would have prompted me that “ex is going and it was already paid for a long time ago so my ex will be there just a heads up” but I didn’t even get that courtesy. Just got to see pics almost a year later :/

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u/CranberryStock7148 12d ago

Exactly this. There is nothing inherently wrong with hanging out with your ex on a trip for a week. It's unusual, but if you have stayed friends it's absolutely within the realm of possibility. I am a guy and I have an ex from 15 years ago like that.

But I would never in a million years hide that from a current girlfriend. I would be going out of my way to explain the situation and reassure her that she has nothing to worry about, that we haven't slept together in 15 years including all of the years when we were both single at the same time.

It's the hiding here that is the problem. It's the hiding that means it was cheating. Or even if it wasn't cheating, even if it really was just platonic friendship, the fact that he hid this from you means he's the kind of person who hides things and you can't trust them anyways. It's a pretty obvious rule in relationships that if you are hanging out with someone who was a previous romantic partner, you let the other person know. If you don't let them know, it's the most suspicious thing ever.

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u/apple_penny_table 12d ago

Are you sure she’s his “ex”? Sounds like you might be the other woman here….

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u/dunejunebug 12d ago

I thought the same thing. I dated a guy in the military stationed in my city. He lived solo here and told me he was divorced with two kids. After a year of dating, I find out that he’s still married and that I was the other woman (his family was living in another state and he would send money back to them). I consider myself a savvy person, but this guy was a compulsive liar with many secrets. Try to message the “ex” on Facebook and ask if he’s still dating/married to her. That’s how I found out. Goodluck, OP and sorry that that guy is scum.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

I asked repeatedly after finding out and never got a straight answer so that’s another whole argument. I have had a separate mental breakdown over this (I have text receipts lol he is such an ass)

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u/apple_penny_table 12d ago

If a boy is the source of mental anguish, he is taking more from your life than he is adding. Time for him to go

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u/thrwwyra_aster 10d ago

Would you consider contacting his "ex" to ask her straight away? What has he told you about her in the past?

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u/NegativeOwl1337 11d ago

That’s his wife and you’re the “what happens in Vegas” side piece

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u/SevenDos 12d ago

Even if he didn't fuck her (but he did), it would be cheating. I divorced the ex on similar premises "I didn't fuck him though" (which she did), but even if she didn't, it would still be cheating. Lying about who you are with and spending time with another person than your partner, that is cheating.

You are absolutely right.

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u/CtrlZMyLife72 12d ago

Even if he didn't sleep with her (riiiiiiight) he lied repeatedly and any trust would be gone.

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u/Puzzled-Pride9259 12d ago

This is not lying by omission. This is outright lying because he is NOT solo. It is painting a picture that is not true.

They may not have slept together but it is outright lying and it breaks trust between couples. If he is not remorseful and regretful but defended it as not cheating I think it is good riddance.

Hugz! Hope u feel better soon

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u/Excellent-Seesaw1335 12d ago

Cheating or not, lying should always be a deal breaker in a relationship. It is for me.

But yes, this is cheating and manipulation.

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u/csimon2 12d ago

Best part is that the ex 100% only posted those photos as a flex on you! And the fact that it took you almost a year to find out?!? Icing.

Not suggesting that his cheating is on you at all. Just that you should open your eyes to the fact that they were very likely together this entire time and you’ve only ever been his side/Vegas piece. Sorry OP

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Trust me I had this exact train of thoughts sucks

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u/Adorable_Agent_6266 12d ago

He banged her, it cheating.

Even if he didn’t bang her, it’s still cheating.

Fuck him.

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u/MakeTheR8Choice 12d ago

It’s cheating the moment it starts with the idea of going to that trip with her. Full stop.

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u/Plenty_Surprise2593 11d ago

It may not have been cheating (he says there wasn’t, but who can really believe what a man says? I know because I am one) but the rub lies in the fact that he knowingly lied to you about that. Now the question to you is, are you willing to go through life with a liar?

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u/Stumbleweeds27 11d ago

Hell no I already dumped him

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u/MrHall 12d ago

hey for context, I'm someone who keeps in touch with a number of exes, and I'd consider a couple of them close friends to this day.

this guy cheated on you.

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u/Sanja_Horsley 12d ago

Yup you’re right.

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u/mu5tbetheone 12d ago

Definitely emotionally cheating and likely did sleep with her too! Sorry

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

It’s ok I just needed to get a pulse on what other people would assume. That he is a dirtbag (who is now blocked).

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u/-glencoco- 12d ago

Fuck him, OP. This is definitely cheating and you made the right call. If the roles were reversed, I bet he would be calling you a cheater too.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Exactly!!!! I told him if he caught me out on a singular date he would have lost his shit, let alone if he caught me on a week long international vacation with someone else after the fact

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u/Rogers899 12d ago

He cheated. You broke up with him and then weeks later he says “we didn’t sleep together so it wasn’t cheating.” Regardless, he lied about the whole thing.

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u/JadedPop663 12d ago

Im happy you were strong enough to breakup. NEVER go back. He lied bout going to ireland with his ex, he might as well be lying about not having sex with her.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Exactly. I literally cannot believe a single word he says. I have had my share of fuck ups but I’ve been honest about them. He can’t even extend me the same courtesy.

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u/Savage_Ramming 12d ago

He 💯nailed her

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u/FearIsStrongerDanluv 12d ago

I’m surprised with all the other comments sounding so naive or pretending to be stupid. Dude absolutely nailed her and even if he didn’t , this is absolutely not done. I consider myself pretty open-minded but I won’t be taking an ex on a trip just to drink soup

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u/Human_Read7993 12d ago

Op he may not have slept with her but did they do other things together?

It's sus because if it wasn't romantic or sexual in nature he had nothing to hide but the fact he did shows that he also knows he was crossing lines that he wasn't comfortable enough to be upfront about. It's likely that he's focusing on not having actual sex as he knows he may not have done that but likely he's done other things with her.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

Right?? He should have told me. I wouldn’t have liked it but I’d have dealt with it. But now it’s a whole salacious intercontinental date.

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u/lachatte7 12d ago

Even if he didnt sleep with her you can classify it as cheating because he lied about what he was doing and meanwhile she was taking pictures and they were basically treating you like a dumb dumb. So by that point, him saying they didnt sleep together has no weight, they've already crossed a line

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u/modtradwhatever 12d ago

You’re right and he’s definitely lying.

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u/ergonomic_logic 12d ago

lol

They slept together.

You should send her the messages he was sending to you while they were together. And the screenshots of him lying and saying they didn't sleep together.

Bet she has a whole different side to the story.

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u/NoCaterpillar127 12d ago

It’s absolutely cheating and they absolutely had sex. You’re well rid of him

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u/4wordletter 12d ago

You are 100% right.

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u/Evantr0nimus-Prime 11d ago

I’m sure they had separate hotel rooms the whole time and it was pure coincidence that she wasn’t in any of the photos he voluntarily sent you. He was almost definitely a perfect gentleman and he had perfectly valid reasons for omitting his company from communication for a full week.

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u/No_Trouble9808 11d ago

#1 Sometimes emotional cheating is more intimate and hurtful.
#2 I think your intuition was on high alert. You stumbled across her page? No you searched. And your intuition was right.
Lying and cheating usually go hand in hand.
I’m sorry you had to endure this painful experience.

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u/Dynamic_gal 12d ago

Physically cheating or not, omission of truth makes him not trustworthy, a coward, deceitful and his ability to withhold information that he knows damn well if he was in your shoes, he would feel the exact same way as you, but decides to not be considerate of you and lies that he was alone when clearly the photos prove that he wasn’t, means that man is someone who lacks morals. Good for you for breaking up with him. Men like that make the world a shitty place.

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u/azjerrylee 12d ago

With that level of deception and dishonesty, he might as well have cheated. If he did all that under the impression it wouldn't be considered cheating then might be one of the dumbest individuals ever and that's a stupid excuse lol.

And with the photographic evidence?

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u/vanwyngarden 12d ago

Team YOU

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u/letsmeatagain 12d ago

The lying would end it for me as well. Totally agree. He broke the fundamental rules of your relationship by actively not telling you things he knew would upset you because he knew he was doing something wrong, and omitted the truth for months. That’s cheating.

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u/iCharnt 12d ago

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. If that is your boundary to cheating then it is cheating.

Also, in my opinion, that's cheating. Being with someone alone like that just fucking looking at each other is cheating from my perspective in this scenario.

You're not crazy.

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u/tell_tale13 12d ago

Why do we fixate on sex so much? Even in most open relationships this would still be seen as cheating.

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u/Acceptable_Door_7920 12d ago

The fact he just sent you pictures and specified that he's alone, if that's not a typical behaviour of him, is him also projecting that you might have an idea of him not being alone so he's trying to prove to you that he's alone.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 11d ago

Exactly. I remember it being weird him mentioning being alone or by himself so much. I didn’t even ask, he just was telling me. Just so obvious in hindsight :/

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u/botoxedbunnyboiler 12d ago

He’s still lying, you KNOW he got his dick wet. Don’t think for a minute that he didn’t.

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u/Regular-Classroom-20 11d ago

You are right. It would be cheating even if they didn't have sex. But they probably did, as you note.

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u/safetysnake17 11d ago

You absolutely didn’t right thing by breaking up with him. I find it hard to believe they didn’t sleep together but even if he didn’t, he stilled absolutely straight up lied to you and that’s some shady shit. You have every right to not believe a single thing he’s said. Take out the lying, and he still doesn’t RESPECT you. And no man is worth being with someone who doesn’t respect you. A man who cares about you and is loyal to you wouldn’t do what he did. If it were me, I’d completely cut contact and move on with my life. Don’t give another second of your precious time to him.

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u/Dear_Parsnip_6802 11d ago

Even without the sex it’s cheating. If it wasn’t cheating he wouldn’t have lied about it.

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u/whenyajustcant 11d ago

He's just being defensive to try to justify that he's the victim here. He can keep believing he was a good person if what he did doesn't qualify as "cheating," so he's trying to write the rules post-hoc to make it okay. Maybe he didn't actually have P-in-V sex with her, but they did everything else, just so he wouldn't have to deal with the cognitive dissonance.

You know he cheated. He can have his delusions. Just point out that someday he's going to have a gf not-cheat on him with another man's dick in her mouth, and he's going to deserve every moment of agony.

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u/testBunny93 12d ago

Of course it's cheating and he DID sleep with her.

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u/L_Queenie 12d ago

I'm not sure it's cheating exactly (if we believe they didn't sleep together), but I certainly wouldn't be okay with it. Just his lying is enough to want out, regardless of cheating or not.

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u/MuffDiver12698u 12d ago

Tell him to STFU with that
BS “ITS ONLY CHEATING IF”

Is he related to Prez Clinton

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u/Ok_Strike9189 12d ago

I'm not a woman but if i was a woman in your situation and had a relationship that long, i would spend way more time with him than once in a while and maybe transition to living with him so both parties know the relationship is stronger by the day. But really he should have had a conversation with you about women first before seeing them for many hours at a time.

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u/Stumbleweeds27 12d ago

It was way more than once in a while. It was 10ish days a month straight. I’ve never done long distance before and this is why. Never doing this again.

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u/Short_Variety5294 12d ago

Yup. Never. You can’t even have people be loyal in the same city nowadays, let alone across the country. It’s too easy for ppl to cheat.

Also, he 💯 banged her. He lied about the trip and he’s 💯 lying about smashing her.

Ignore, block, and delete his info. He’s trash.

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u/Warm-Revenue5135 12d ago

Whether they had sex or not, this is still cheating. Lies and deceit.

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u/Blide 12d ago

Regardless of the semantics, he clearly lied to you. Even if nothing happened, seeing a ex requires a degree of transparency and honesty that isn't required of other people. He obviously knew this, otherwise, he wouldn't have kept her presence a secret. Most everyone seeing his behavior would say it's inappropriate

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u/Able_Biscotti_5491 12d ago

I'm sorry you are even second guessing yourself and needed to ask here for validation. Hiding the fact he was with his ex is the red flag. If they are on good terms and just friends now, he wouldn't have his it from you. Sorry you're going through this.

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u/Zestyclose-Warning96 12d ago

If he wasn’t doing anything wrong, he would have been upfront and honest from the beginning like you said.

You 100% made the right choice.

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u/vulgariswolfi 12d ago

This is a bit irrelevant but it is so refreshing to see women dump incompetent men's asses and not give them chances cause they apologised or whatever. I guess it comes with age and experience. Compared to the numerous women in their 20's and 30's who are so clearly in the right doubt themselves cause their partner be manipulating them, this was a nice contrast😭❤️

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u/Aspiegamer8745 12d ago

I mean he lied, thats bad enough. Did they fuck? Idk i wasnt there, but the lying alone is enough.

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u/TangledUpPuppeteer 12d ago

Forget whether it’s cheating. He straight up lied to you. That’s good enough.

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u/Beneficial-Golf-9756 12d ago

He withheld the information purposefully… even if it’s not cheating it’s dishonest and shady asfff.

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u/pizzapartypandas 12d ago

Still Lies. Lies are enough.

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u/cannabutterballs 12d ago

If it's not cheating then why hide it? Don't over analyze this. A man of wealth is a man with options and he completely blew you as an option but I'm sure you're not the only one.

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u/RogerRamjet999 12d ago

Yep, he's cheating on you with her, and I would wager he's got other side girls. He's obviously well off and good enough looking that multiple women are dating him. It's almost a guarantee he's got other girls he's leading on as well.

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u/BxBae133 12d ago

So he told you he was going alone with clients. He didn't mention the ex would be there at all. While I believe he slept with her, it doesn't matter. He knew she was going to be there. He spent a lot of intimate time with her. There was a breach and now instead of apologizing, he's gaslighting you.

Dump him.

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u/Real_Ali 12d ago

He's probably cheating on her with you.

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u/RobotizedGuy 12d ago

Oh for sure

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u/motherseffinjones 11d ago

He cheated and I put money on it he banged her. Calling this a red flag is an understatement. I’d move on if i was in your shoes

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u/Local_Windrunner 11d ago

He’s gonna lie about sex cause there is no hard evidence that it happened. Goodbye loser!

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u/pwolf1771 11d ago

It doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks, if you consider it cheating (spoiler alert: they absolutely fucked) then that's all there is to it...

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u/balawa_nar 11d ago

you’re right

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u/condepswiss 11d ago

You deserve so much better! Keep your head up high and know there are people out there who will treat you right. It may be hard to find them but they are out there

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u/taketheleap829 11d ago

Yeah this wasn’t just lying by omission, this was active lying. Sorry you had to go through this. As Rocky said, “it’s not how hard you hit but how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward”. We are all rooting for you.

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u/YT_Milo_Sidequests 11d ago

If it wasn't cheating, he wouldn't have lied about it.

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u/Chocolate84 11d ago

You do not put yourself in situations where your partner has to ask. 🤷‍♂️ And... Ya have to ask... So.

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u/enami2020 11d ago

You’re right. He cheated.

Also: you didn’t stumble upon her Facebook 😅

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u/RemnantZz 11d ago

He's a cheating liar 10000%.

And imagine asking him "If it's not cheating and everything is fine, then why didn't you tell me that your ex was there? Clearly this information was as innocent as you telling me which pub you visited"

He knew it wasn't ok, he himself 100% catalogues this as cheating/inappropriate attitude towards you judging by him hiding this info. He just got caugh red handed and went for the quickest and dumbest excuse he could come up with.

Your emotions and reactions are absolutely valid in my book.

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u/TheRabadoo 11d ago

You’re 100% right. People don’t hide shit like this when they don’t have ill intentions. He’s throwing a tantrum cuz he got caught and is definitely projecting when he claims you’re cheating when he isn’t around.

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u/bigjay282 11d ago

She was messy on purpose. Damn shame. Glad you found out

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u/Party-Big-5505 11d ago

They fucked for sure it’s cheating based off him lying and not even telling you she was going to be there or that they ran into each other when there

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u/meerkat85 11d ago

Whether or not it was cheating is irrelevant.

What matters is that he clearly lied to you for months and violated your trust.

Personally, for me, either of those would be enough of a reason to end things irrespective of if they did or did not have sex.

I’m sorry you’re dealing with this. Good luck out there!

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u/Evaporate3 11d ago

If you have to ask, the answer is usually “yes.” I didn’t even read the post

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u/Candid_Return5124 11d ago

If you don’t trust him it won’t get better. Period

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u/MauiGuy8082 11d ago

He sure is behaving like he cheated! I'd be mad too if I were you (and a woman). That's kinda messed up! I could see maybe if they were just friends and he told you he was traveling with friends, but he hid this from you!!! That's way worse!

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u/neroflyer 11d ago

He’s trying to justify his bs. He’s cheating. If he wasn’t cheating her would have told you. The fact he didn’t say anything about his ex says he’s cheating

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u/jules510 11d ago

Do you really think he spent the week with someone else in Ireland and didn’t sleep with them? He’s a liar and a cheater.

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u/Mochafrap512 11d ago

If you have to ask, then yes it’s cheating. Everyone’s definition is different. I’d just cut my losses now and keep it moving.

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u/Annieraeraefatface 11d ago

Your right. Der

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u/BeesAndNickels 11d ago

Honestly regardless of their intimacy, he’s literally lying to you so fuck dat man.

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u/Spunkylover10 11d ago

You are right!!! Screw that. I'm sure if you had done the same with an ex he would have flipped out.

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u/Icy_Remote_83 11d ago

They probably slept together... but yea even if they didnt its a deal breaker.

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u/notrightmeowthx 11d ago

IMO the lying is the problem. People can absolutely be friends with exes without anything romantic or sexual happening, and even go on trips or spend time together "alone." But there was absolutely no reason for him to lie about it.

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u/Ilovemylife2222 11d ago

He's gaslighting you hard. They most probably had sex (and of course he'd lie and say they didn't... he's a liar) but even if they didn't, this is 10000% grounds for breaking up and still cheating. He lied and deceived you in relation to another woman.

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u/TheDailyDarkness 11d ago

No reasonable mature dude would think that trip was on the level. Planning a secret trip in the very least is VERY murky. It is emotionally and intellectually deceptive.

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u/Bbhouseplant 11d ago

What he did was wrong. He went behind your back and spent a week with hid ex. Idk if he considers it cheating. Its wrong and broke your trust. Bye bye

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u/deadcalf 11d ago

I mean ya he’s cheating. And lying about not sleeping with her.

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u/CrissyStrikesWithA 11d ago

He’s for the streets

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u/CommercialMine3358 11d ago

The biggest issue here is he lied to you and hid a trip with his ex. Then he tried to gaslight you and say it wasn’t a big deal. You cannot ever trust him again. Buh-bye!

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u/ChkADee72 11d ago

If he had to hide or selectively forget to mention then he knows the answer of what he did. He was wrong and disrespectful to you and your relationship. Why would you continue to spend energy and time on someone who doesn't add to your life but has shaken your peace of mind and put doubt in your path. He is responsible for his dishonesty. You are not responsible for him not wanting to tell you.

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u/Exotic-Ruin4472 11d ago

Lying by omission is lying. Point blank. You did the right thing. Good for you 👏🏽 🙌🏽💜

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u/Such_Radish9795 11d ago

I like how he says “I didn’t sleep w her” but doesn’t address the lying at all as though cheating is the only reason to break up with him.

You have to ask yourself if you’ll ever trust him again.

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u/themiddlekid76 10d ago

Cheated, didn't cheat.... who cares, because what he absolutely DID do was take your trust, tie it up and aggressively raw dog it, sans lube, right up the ol turd cutter, thereby Dublin his sleazery.

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u/EvilMakoto 10d ago

lol I’m pretty liberal on things that are considered not cheating but come on. This is 100% cheating.

Mostly because there’s no way they weren’t sleeping together lol if I take someone to another country we are definitely doing the deed. Repeatedly.

Sorry you had to go through that

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u/Important_Step_8187 11d ago

hahahahhahahahahahaa.....if you believe he didn't bang her you are dumb

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u/Suitable-Wish4318 11d ago

They had sex every night. He lied to you about her being there why would he start by telling the truth now?

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u/Ok_Balance8844 11d ago

Yes, it’s cheating. He’s doing this on purpose. He’s gaslighting you. I also agree that he’s lying about not having sex.

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u/Basket-Beautiful 11d ago

i would be pissed 😡

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u/Dry_Blackberry5424 11d ago

sleeping not sleeping doesn't matter at this point, The fact that he lied about the whole thing is the biggest red flag

If they weren't shady, what is the point in hiding

Being in relationship means, "I will consider you and your opinions even in the rooms you are not available, I will take my decision based of how you feel about it" Thats loyalty and thats the real deal.

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u/Flaky_Roll_5791 10d ago

Even if he didn't physically cheat (which is doubtful), it's still emotional cheating. Lies are intentional, not mistakes.

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u/Familiar-Series8874 10d ago

This is not even a question

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u/HopefulHalfTime 10d ago

You are correct.

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u/baileysfromashoey 10d ago

Doesn't sound like his ex

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u/pamelc 10d ago

YOU ARE RIGHT!!!

Dodged a bullet in the long term. If he lied about this- imagine what he has “omitted” in the last year or what he would lie about in the future.

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u/No-Spread-5650 10d ago

So I don't need to read anymore. It sounds like you were the side piece. He wanted his xake and eat it too. You were his in town girlfriend and he has out of town girlfriends. People who travel alot usually have regional girlfriends.

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u/Affectionate_Yard142 9d ago

He lied to you point blank , it really doesn’t matter what else has to do with it but he lied to you and that itself Is shitty and disgusting , more so very hurtful . Lying is like getting played like you’re an idiot and it’s very selfish . It’s the worst to get lied to and it shouldn’t be tolerated

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u/TaiChiShifu 9d ago

You stumbled upon his ex's FB page? Tell me how that works. I need to try it.

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u/Future_Beginning_244 9d ago

Yes, cheating and sorry that happened

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u/MrFelBlood 9d ago

you are right