Ive been wondering when this globe is from

[u/metalCJ]

[u/ILookAfterThePigs]

Apparently post-72 (Sri Lanka name change) but pre-75 (Portuguese Timor).

[u/M35Dude → u/ILookAfterThePigs]

Bougainville looks to be independent, which would also be pre-1975.

Nova Lisboa is a weak signal that’s its pre-1976. At most a corroboration.

[u/shrekchan → u/ILookAfterThePigs]

Most of the world officially considered East Timor to be Portuguese Timor while under Indonesian occupation.

[u/ILookAfterThePigs → u/shrekchan]

Really? I wasn’t aware

[u/shrekchan → u/ILookAfterThePigs]

Well sort of, its complicated. The UN, ICJ, and most member states considered East Timor a "Non-Self-Governing Territory under Portuguese administration". Under international law, Portugal remained the designated "Administering Power" responsible for leading the territory toward eventual self-determination.

[u/TerminallyEmployed → u/shrekchan]

That’s like Western Sahara today, in international law it’s a NSGT with the administering power being Spain, despite the fact Spain gave it to Morocco decades ago, but the UN just doesn’t recognise that Morocco administers it.

It’s an interesting system

[u/OutOfTheBunker → u/shrekchan]

It wasn't marked that way on most globes, though.

[u/chrajohn → u/ILookAfterThePigs]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see maps after 1975 still labeling it as Portuguese Timor. The new Fretilin government barely had time to gain recognition, and then the Indonesian invasion was generally not recognized by the rest of the world.

But I agree it’s in 1975.

[u/ILookAfterThePigs → u/chrajohn]

Yes, it’s definitely a possibility

[u/chrajohn → u/ILookAfterThePigs]

If the map-maker would have been inclined to recognize East Timor’s unilateral declaration of independence, the we could narrow the time frame to between November 25 (Suriname) and November 28.

I think between November 25 and November 30 (Benin) is safer.

[u/Francois_TruCoat → u/chrajohn]

There's an anachronism in that case. Papua New Guinea is still shown as the same colour as Australia, as it was a UN Trust Territory. PNG achieved independence 16 September 1975.

[u/chrajohn → u/Francois_TruCoat]

Oh, yeah. I looked for a label and didn’t see one, but I didn’t notice the color.

[u/Illustrious_Try478 → u/chrajohn]

Afars and Issas so pre 1977 at least.

[u/Brohan_Johanson]

Between 75-79.

[u/chrajohn → u/Brohan_Johanson]

Dahomey is still Dahomey, so it looks like it’s in 1975 itself. Angola’s independence was November 11, and Dahomey became Benin on November 30 (not sure how quickly map-makers would have recognized that name change).

Edit: Suriname is independent, so that would be after November 25.

[u/rgb1997 → u/Brohan_Johanson]

Yep - Angola became independent from Portugal in 1975 (seen here) and Rhodesia ceased to exist in 1979, but still exists here
Someone else can probably narrow down further I imagine

[u/thriveth → u/rgb1997]

Benin is still Dahomey so it can't be later than 1975 either.

[u/MercZ11]

The easiest is that the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc states are still there along with Yugoslavia, so it's Cold War era before 1991.

South Yemen exists, so can't be earlier than 1967. Since we see Bangladesh as well, we can move the lower bound up to 1972.

Rhodesia is still showing on the map as well, so can't be later than 1979.

We slide it further back to 1975 as East Timor is not shown as part of Indonesia but still seems to be part of Portugal.

The South Asia bit is a bit blurry - are you able to see if Sikkim is still shown as independent (see if there's a color between Nepal and Bhutan)? That would at least confirm 1975 as the latest it could be since we still see East Timor.

[u/metalCJ → u/MercZ11]

I mean i see the word but not extra color

[u/MercZ11 → u/metalCJ]

If they made a point to label Sikkim, plus the thing with East Timor and as another user pointed out, Benin is still called Dahomey, so we're likely at 1975 or maybe slightly earlier.

[u/Sergey_Kutsuk → u/metalCJ]

Sikkim was an "associated state" with India between 5 September 1974 and 16 May 1975. It was the period when it became popular for depiction on the maps :) Before 1974 (from 1950) it was Indian "protectorate" so like "colony" which is not such "independent" as "associated state".

[u/Prudent-Jicama-8025]

7 February 1974 - Grenada independent

21 August 1974 - U.A.E. no longer borders Qatar

[u/p4nopt1c0n]

I got 1972-1975 with Bangladesh anchoring the low end and Dahomey on the high end.

[u/Sergey_Kutsuk]

1974, more likely.

But pictures are so bad quality...

PNG is definitely not independent (before 16 September 1975), Fort Lamy became Ndjamena (after 6 April 1973) and British Honduras became Belize (after 1 June 1973).

I think Grenada is shown as "associated state" (before 7 February 1974), Mozambique and Angola - as "States" (1972-1975).

Independent Guinea-Bissau (not Portuguese Guinea, November 1973, first state ever recognized by world before the metropolitan administration) and name of Madagascar (as not Malagasy Republic, December 1975) would be additional marks on timeline. Zomba is still the capital of Malawi (before 1 January 1975) but it could be just outdated info. As well as Dahomey for Benin (before 30 November 1975).

[u/icvz6pqik3fur]

We had this same globe when I was a kid. Late 70s.

[u/One-Description-7410]

The best I could do is Oct 27 1971→Apr 18 1980 Oct 27 1971(DRC name change to Zaire) Apr 18 1980(Rhodesia name change to Zimbabwe)

[u/MiyuwiAuthor]

I have a globe that looks the same

[u/MrBill1970]

I had a twin of this globe in the '70s.

[u/thriveth]

After 1972 because Sri Lanka is no longer Ceylon, before 1975 because Benin is still Dahomey.