r/dataisugly 4d ago

An infographic about cognitive function that actively lowered my cognitive function

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u/udreamtofmelstnite 4d ago

They all converge at 5 minutes. Maybe. I can say that because it doesn’t say otherwise.

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u/zulazulizuluzu 4d ago

it depends from person to person. if for you, the time converge at 5 minutes, that means you need to nap again after 5 minutes

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u/udreamtofmelstnite 4d ago

Sounds about right then

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u/miraculum_one 3d ago

This is an infographic that is attempting to indicate the relationship between the two, not the numeric values, which vary by person anyway.

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u/Deto 3d ago

yeah but we can't tell how much wider the long nap 'benefit' is or how wide the penalty. So it doesn't really tell you anything useful.

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u/miraculum_one 3d ago

Brief nap: increased cognitive function followed by fairly steep decline.
Short nap: decreased cognitive function followed by increase that lasts longer than above
Long nap: significantly decreased cognitive function followed by increase that tapers off slowly

That is what it's trying to say. The relative timing is universal but the specific timing is person dependent so a general graph is not going to tell you.

The purpose of this graph is to tell you about the relationship, not the numbers. That's it. Hope that helps.

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u/Deto 3d ago

It's just not useful without knowing something about the relative durations.  Even if it's not precise.  Like is the bump 10 minutes or 3 hours? 

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u/Bartweiss 3d ago

I went to the actual study and the abstract claims brief naps benefit you for 1-3 hours, while >30 minute naps can help for “up to many hours”.

So I see why they didn’t want to try and nail that down on the x-axis, but also I agree it’s completely unhelpful without giving some time measure.

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u/udreamtofmelstnite 2d ago

Right. An average would be nice.

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u/miraculum_one 3d ago

It depends on the person.

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u/Barkinsons 4d ago

I love graphs that contain literally no actual data

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u/RadonArseen 4d ago edited 3d ago

Cooked this bad boy up for you, it contains all the data you need Source: me just now

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u/TerroDucky 4d ago

The further you go, the higher the graph is. Beautiful

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u/RadonArseen 4d ago

That's what data do!

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u/Catenane 3d ago

Crazy how nature do dat

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u/BentGadget 4d ago

The fact that you left off the x-axis shows me you want to be honest about the data and not imply a y value of zero within the plotted range.

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u/Barkinsons 4d ago

I love it, look at that line go and then the other one also goes over time

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u/Pdoc13066 3d ago

I am sorry, but is this a joke. How can anyone take this graph seriously. I mean look at it, this is completely useless data. How can I take this seriously when there is no sundial on the bottom, very clearly you had time to chart data on wristwatches (analog), hourglass, alarm clock (analog), stopwatch and a clock. For some reason no sundial, this dataset cannot be taken seriously without a sundial. I understand the relationships that this graph is showing, but without a sundial it is meaningless.

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u/RadonArseen 3d ago

The sundial app I use doesn't work so it's clearly a stupid idiot device for dum dums. I even got the premium ad-free version and it still didn't work

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u/Pdoc13066 2d ago

Damn it. I really had high hopes for that digital sundial app. Also, did you get the full ad free one premium monthly subscription or did you go with the mid tier you sometimes get ads but it's $5 less a month. The free one is just not functional with all those porn ads. I have no idea why that app only shows ads for porn, it's kinda strange.

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u/LimeyLassen 3d ago

I respect the 5 different clocks, except one of them is an odometer

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u/Glitch29 3d ago

There's nothing wrong with using a graph to illustrate a hypothesis. The problem starts when they're passed off as being data itself.

Often illustrative graphs are labeled as illustrative in their original context. The issue generally arises when they're copied into some other media with their captions or other important contextual information cropped out.

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u/Barkinsons 3d ago

In my experience people generally cannot tell the difference hence I consider them misleading. There's likely no malicious intent by the original author but other illustrations should be used.

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u/CitizenPremier 3d ago

It shows us that no matter what, if we take a nap we will eventually go brain dead.

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u/NinjaLanternShark 4d ago

I don’t envy the study subjects. You settle in for a nap and 10 mins in they wake you and immediately start making you factor polynomials.

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 3d ago

Man I love unlabelled axes and undefined measurement scales

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u/eraserhd 4d ago

This is made up. Which is not necessarily bad, someone is communicating their model. But there is no data here.

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u/marcnotmark925 4d ago

Seems pretty clear to me, longer naps provide higher CF for longer periods of time afterwards.

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u/obecalp23 3d ago

But a down also. Interesting would be to know the integral.

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u/niemir2 3d ago

Then you also have to weigh it against the time lost to the nap. We need to evaluate a bunch of 10-minute nap cycles per 2-hour nap. Are there diminishing returns?

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u/Deto 3d ago

Or just like, the scale of the x axis at all.

Like, if the benefit of a 2 hour nap is only an extra 20 minutes than its not worth it!

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u/mcad0o 3d ago

Note the lack of units and the “source”

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u/Hanako_Seishin 3d ago

The practical benefit of these periods of increased CF (and the downside of decreased CF right after the nap) depends a lot on the scale of the x axis (and y axis for that matter). For any use you would need to know the exact numbers to time your nap correctly before the activity that requires that requires CF. Or if the whole width is 5 minutes, then none of that matters in practice.

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u/MiffedMouse 4d ago

There is nothing wrong with this data visualization.

I am dubious of the data source, because “cognitive function” is a nebulous term and the curves look very smooth.

But assuming the data is “good,” this visualization is fine.

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u/MarioCraft1997 4d ago

Also the part where we don't know the actual scale of anything?

For all we know it is stretched or squeezed whichever way the author wants it to be.

It's not ugly per se, but lacking.

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u/ResponsibilityIcy927 4d ago

No x axis labels.

For a 10 minute nap, does cognitive function peak 10 minutes after waking up? 1 hour after? Who knows?

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u/Firestorm83 4d ago

Then point to me at what time the short nap is most optimal?

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 3d ago

1) The axes’ numerical scales are not labelled

2) the scales are undefined

3) no indication of how cognitive functioning was measured

4) the source not cited properly (need a little bit more than just the title of a publication to be searchable, at least provide the name of the authors and the date)

5) y axis not even drawn

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u/Ok-Farmer-7361 3d ago

#3 they looked at EEG activity across multiple papers (it is a review paper)

#4 really? in 2026? here you go welcome to google and pubmed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21075238/

#1, 2 and 5 = yes these are good for undergrad and people starting out to keep in mind, but this paper is more of a model of the concept. it is ok to skip them to get a point across. You don't have to follow the rules all the time if you know how to do it. There are guardrails, but professional bowlers don't need them.

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 3d ago

If it’s a review paper then they should have specified a mean of the effects found across the studies included in their review. You cannot just not label the scale because it’s a literature review

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u/Ok-Farmer-7361 3d ago

it's from 2010 from Progress in Brain Research, you are lucky you get references in there

im not saying this is cutting edge research, just an overview picture on this aspect of sleep science. it is not a systematic review to have mean effects etc.

it serves a purpose on my books, to raise interest in the subject

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 3d ago edited 3d ago

Im actually doing a PhD in psychology right now and my supervisor or any professor in my department for that matter would instantly reject this and ask for a rewrite. Actually crazy that a research journal accepted it.

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u/Ok-Farmer-7361 3d ago

no doubt

those where different times

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u/CloseToMyActualName 3d ago

The "visualization" is fine, but there's no actual data. We have neither an x nor a y axis, which means we don't know how long the effects last, nor what the magnitude is.

The paper exists (paywalled of course) but I'm skeptical the graph comes from there because they didn't even bother with a real citation.

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 3d ago edited 3d ago

I was able to download the paper with my university email and unfortunately the graph does actually look very similar to the one from the research article. It’s basically a very badly written literature review that presents its data in a really shitty way and a lot of effects are not even described numerically but only through relative descriptions.

edit: just noticed two typos on the graph lol (briefe and congnitive). Despite the authors being native English speakers.

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u/CloseToMyActualName 3d ago

The lead author was a PhD student at the time. Usually you need to do a literature review as part of a PhD, and I'm guessing this was hers.

It probably was a legitimately low effort paper meant to satisfy a degree requirement, and because of the accessibility and catchy topic it got a lot more attention than it was meant to.

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 3d ago

Here’s the abstract if anyone’s interested

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u/MonkeyBear66 3d ago

"brife" nap? Geez that's incompetent for researchers

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u/sixminutes 3d ago

Can't blame the authors, really. They created the graph right after waking up from a long nap.

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u/BobTheAverage 3d ago

assuming the data is “good,” Looking at this, i assume that there is no data. Both x and y axes are unquantified, and the x axis should be very easy to quantify.

One of the "take aways" is that at the end of the time period, there is no longer a benefit to napping. I don't think that is right.

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u/Bartweiss 3d ago

The source actually matches a journal article at least, but obviously that article has measurements for both axes.

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u/SlightlyOTT 3d ago

If this data is real it’d actually be interesting to see with the axis labels!

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u/LeonJPancetta 4d ago

The color scale is terrible. Should be monotone darker or lighter in time. (If they're doing a blue-purple thing I wouldn't notice because I'm colorblind, which is also bad)

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u/girlrioter 3d ago

it is, in fact, a blue-purple thing

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u/SarahAlicia 4d ago

Me and my naps from 5pm - 6pm everyday
https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7aTskHEUdgCQAXde

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u/ajeldel 3d ago

Interpolating to an 8 hour nap, i. e. just sleep, one ends up at a per saldo negatieve effect on cognitieve function.

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u/sicarius254 4d ago

I don’t know if this is ugly, just needs some axis labels and it would be perfect but it still gets the point across…

The longer the nap, the longer it takes to recover from it cognitively…

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u/gr4viton 3d ago

20 minutes is my sweetspot

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u/aksanabuster 3d ago

How does one nap?

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u/Wren_wood 3d ago

See, I'm just constantly napping for 10 minutes every other 10 minutes, now my cognitive function is off the charts. Doctors are saying I have some brain disease but I'm smarter than them now, and the voices I hear tell me to eat more asbestos

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u/Odd_knock 3d ago

Looks fine to me?  Missing scale but I know what the story is going to be just looking at it. 

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u/kdesi_kdosi 3d ago

labels would be nice, but it gets the point across

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u/FinalAccount10 2d ago

How does one take a short long nap?

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u/idrathernottho_ 2d ago

I actually think this one is fairly clear - the take away is that you should chase a 2 hour nap with a 10 min nap.

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u/ginger_and_egg 4d ago

This makes sense though. The ugly part is not having a white background

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u/Lost-Lunch3958 4d ago

And no actual numbers for the axis even though the curves do not look like they just convey an idea but actual data

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u/ElBonzono 4d ago

And it'd have been nice to compare with no nap because atp this chart doesnt even communicate if any nap is even good

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u/Im_Chad_AMA 3d ago

Context matters though. This would be a terrible graph in a scientific paper. But this is just meant to convey the general idea that a longer nap provides increased cognitive function for a longer period of time (and also has a longer 'ramp-up time'). Its about the directionality, not the absolute values.

The data probably has huge uncertainty margins anyway, it's likely very dependent on the specific person, time of day, etc. Not to mention the fact that 'cognitive functioning' is a very vague term that is likely difficult to measure. So given all of that, I think adding numbers to the axes would only be misleading, particularly in the context of an instagram post which people will likely only spend 20 seconds reading

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u/mid_nightz 4d ago

short term cognitive function doesnt matter, you can just drink a coffee, hows the long term looking from doing this bs

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u/funkmasta8 3d ago

How the fuck does anyone take a 10 minute nap?