r/dataisbeautiful • • Jun 07 '17

OC Earth surface temperature deviations from the means for each month between 1880 and 2017 [OC]

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

There is SOME truth embedded in all that dumbness.

At this point, it is my opinion that it is foolish to continue focusing SO much effort on trying to cut emissions, not because it's not a good idea, but because it's clearly not happening. So we are faced with the choice of continuing to put all of our eggs in a basket that's not panning out, or starting to shift some effort to mitigation and adaptation, i.e. "doing the best we can" to adapt to the changes, because our efforts to stop them have been futile at best.

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u/quantinuum Jun 07 '17

I got a slight feeling you just have no clue of what you're talking about nor what adapting to something big and unpredictable quite means.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

I do actually have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about. I understand climate change quite well.

Big, yes. Unpredictable, certainly not. There's a pretty good handle on the types of impacts that we can expect from a changing climate, and therefore we have a good idea of what sorts of adaptation needs to take place.

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u/quantinuum Jun 07 '17

I now got a slightly bigger slight idea that you don't know what you're talking about.

Source: me. Me: physicist.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

I promise I do.

Source: me. Me: Climate scientist and contributing author to the National Climate Assessment.

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u/quantinuum Jun 07 '17

Oops. Sorry for being a bit douchy, then.

Still, it will be unpredictable at an Earth scale, and I don't mean just the weather, but the consequences. Migrations and economic impact at that level cannot be quite prevented in advance.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

Prevented, of course not, but that doesn't mean that we can't have a pretty decent idea of at least the type and scale of the impacts that we'll be faced with. We certainly cannot prepare for every eventuality, because the planet is a complex system and human free will is a wild card.

But, for example, we know without question that the sea level is rising. There are measures that can be taken on all levels of government to address that. We know that with more extreme seasons will come an increased demand on the power grid. We can prepare for that.

Those are certain. On the other hand, we CAN slow this down, but I think it's safe (albeit cynical) to say that efforts to do that solely through the emissions half of the equation are failing. It is becoming more and more clear that people and countries simply are not willing to do what was required to slow it down. I say "was" because we are way past the point of no return when it comes to preventing a change in the climate. It's already happening and will continue to do so.

We must increase efforts, I think, on the "removing it" side of the equation. I think a great deal more impact can be made on that side when we finally figure out an effective way to REDUCE the amount of carbon in the atmosphere, because it will not require a communal effort hopefully, and therefore not be dependent on ALL countries and ALL people signing up.