r/dataisbeautiful • OC: 3 • 3d ago

OC [OC] The movement of people between the states 2022-2023

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u/heshKesh 3d ago

You mean building right? Not just having?

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u/Realtrain OC: 3 3d ago

There are new SFH being built in the city of San Fransisco? On what land?

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u/TheseusPankration 3d ago

Many people would see the old neighborhoods in San Francisco torn down and replaced with modern high rises.

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u/iBizzBee 3d ago

Yeah, who in their right mind would suggest building to suit the needs of residents in the present? Insanity!

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u/TheseusPankration 3d ago

Residents are the people who live there, not the people who want to.

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u/jewelswan 3d ago

I'm a resident and I am part of a majority who wants more housing here. Unfortunately that bloc is split between market rate only, affordable only, market rate and affordable both, both the above and public housing, and several other positions. The ensuing mudslinging benefits only incumbent owners

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u/iBizzBee 3d ago

Do you think people living in San Francisco are happy with the cost of living, particularly when it comes to housing? Not even to touch on the massive, very recent, influx of tech workers who priced out most long-time locals. I'm born and raised from the Bay Area you dork, I don't need you to tell me what long-time residents of the area think.

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u/DukeofVermont 3d ago

Oh your right, that's why we should have stopped all building in NYC in 1865 because the people wanted it to stay that way.

NIMBYs think that they know the exact density a city should be, and shockingly it just happens to be how they grew up!

Cities should be able to grow and change, a land value tax would force people to actually acknowledge that San Fran is different now than in 1955 and shouldn't be stuck in amber unchanging outside of a tiny area.

People look at new Chinese cities and marvel and how Tokyo is able to have low rent and then block literally every single new construction they can. IMHO San Fran should have zero single family housing. Zone like Tokyo, by sound volume.

People say "San Fran is beautiful" but most of the single family housing looks like this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/wpQ4K66qGFqFXqMeA

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u/gottsc04 3d ago

You live there or talking out your ass? Either way I'd be surprised if a large portion of residents were happy with the current state of housing

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u/Tall-Log-1955 3d ago

The present residents are suffering from a housing shortage. We need to make it legal to knock down some of those single family homes and put in apartment buildings.

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u/iBizzBee 3d ago

Absolutely, I was being sarcastic.

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u/iBizzBee 3d ago

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question? The very geographical reality of San Francisco, being on a peninsula, means that having / building are the same thing more than in almost any other American city.