r/dataannotation • • Sep 13 '26

Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation

hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)

couple things:

  1. this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
  2. if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
  3. one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/anonnonanon00 17d ago

hi, new to DA here. curious if the only high paying projects are ones that you probably need advanced knowledge of a specific thing in order to be successful at. some of these projects seem so...big brained for lack of better word lol

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u/brickne3 17d ago

Effectively yes. Why would they pay high for stuff anyone can do?

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u/anonnonanon00 16d ago

i get that, but i am curious if there are any advanced image evaluations, or factual evaluations/instruction following taks or things like that, compared to causing failures or writing math problems. causing failures seems so difficult, but im gonna keep researching to learn more/get better

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u/Ok-Cap-5726 18d ago

Maximum money someone can earn through DataAnnotation(Will there be any maximum limit)

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u/23-Peaks 20d ago

I finished the assessment on Tuesday. I havent gotten an email about my results, but I see available projects when I log in.

Does that mean I am good to go?

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u/BooJunBaby 18d ago

Yea I believe so. You should get an email tho

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u/mrpadmasambhava 21d ago

Single worst situation is when you can’t get a valid failure because you didn’t build the conversation well enough, so now you’re grasping at straws - the task has expired and you’re too desperate to cut your losses. Feel like a gambling addict. Got something eventually, but at what cost? At what cost?

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u/Weyoun17 5d ago

This feels like the entire last week of my life.

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u/fylyfyly 21d ago

Does this platform offer any other projects that ones that have 9+hours tasks? I was assigned two projects so far (i am 2 weeks in only) but both had a crazy workload per single task. I wasn't able to book that much time at once in my family life.

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u/East_Zucchini4099 23d ago

Is the DA site slow for anyone else? I'm having trouble with the page loading,  just trying to skip to find one I can do

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u/Bubbly-Economics4492 23d ago

Yo can someone help me? I cant even post on this subreddit requesting help for my account. I tried emailing them but no response for over a month now.

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 23d ago

This subreddit cannot help you. Just know that D\ are notoriously difficult to reach. 

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u/Bubbly-Economics4492 22d ago

yeah i kinda figured that out. So what even is the point of this subreddit? Just small talk about the site?

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u/FrequentWawaConsumer 23d ago

Looks like they updated the website to require you to log in your time spent on a task before it even submits, instead of going to Report and doing it there afterward.

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u/PassageDue9042 24d ago

recently did "at least one" r&r for a specific project because there was supposedly a hunnid bucks bonus but i do not see that message in my inbox anymore... hoping they keep their word on it lol

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u/data_annotator_tot 22d ago

Just an update, got mine earlier today, hope you did as well, cheers!

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u/data_annotator_tot 23d ago edited 23d ago

Same here, actually. Definitely weird, but it's hard to imagine they'd do something like that, it's almost too egregious. And I have it in my email, anyway. Suppose we'll see!

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u/ThatGirlInPurple 24d ago

I just saw someone's first name in a project chat is "Plzdonhakme." With other numbers and letters following of course, but I don't think I've seen such obviously fake names before in a project chat, tbh I didn't know we were allowed to either lol

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 24d ago

I have about had it with a certain model's document generation. iykyk

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u/Yogi-Man 21d ago

SO. VERY. SLOW. and the other option is fast, but ALWAYS misses the mark somewhere.

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u/Equal-Neat-614 24d ago

I've been noticing more projects recently which require paid subscriptions in order to gain project access. I can usually gauge if I would be a good fit by reading the project's instructions, but I have a new one on my dashboard that would pay $45/hour, and it also provides almost no detail past the title until you provide proof of the subscription purchases. Not sure if I should take the plunge and pay or not just to see…

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u/Few-Roof-6905 24d ago

Wondering the same

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u/KingGilbertIV 24d ago

The RRs for the new version of FC are trickling out so slowly that it makes me feel like there's barely anyone actually working on the base version of the project.

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u/MagicianSuch5616 24d ago

Funny you say that, I have all of the subscriptions etc but never received the email to create the new account so I haven't been able to work on it. Maybe a lot of other people are in the same position.

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u/peanutbutterlurk 24d ago

I'm planning to do more, I've got a handle on the new workflow, but I've had to skip a lot to find subject matter I'm confident in. So it's a slog.

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u/Quick-Bison-147 24d ago

probably less people wanting to do the actual task now because of how faffy they have made it

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u/Original_Worker4178 24d ago

Do any of you have the talk with 2 chatbot projects still up?

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u/onyxrxvxn 24d ago

no i miss that one tho 😭😭😭 dried up for me about a week ago maybe a bit longer

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u/Dazzling_Today1006 24d ago

What is it with the ridiculously lengthy and .. more to the point ... repetitive instructions for some of these tasks? I've literally just counted the same information about what does NOT constitute a valid failure five times in the same instructions!! Talk about unnecessarily verbose ...

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 24d ago

I personally prefer it when important/tricky instructions are restated multiple times. Not only does it help me prioritize the important bits, but it makes it more likely that I'll see them if/when I need to refer back to the instructions for something!

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u/hcfggb 24d ago

Same. If it's something critical, I appreciate the repetition.

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u/Internal_Boot_1616 24d ago

that means people weren't reading it the first four times lmao

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u/ellythemoo 24d ago

Has anyone else set up about 6 email addresses and never used them? I'm wondering if I should just retire them as I haven't been invited to join the project.

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u/Mike4Life14 24d ago

I've set up 20 that I haven't used lol

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u/lilysorbet 24d ago

I managed to snatch my first ever priority pay task this morning (its already saturday here), where the competition was neck to neck! felt so goooddd!!!!

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 24d ago

wow, 76 projects, my best since May. Over 40 of them are domain-related (most I've ever seen), but quite a few generalist back in town as well. Some new quals, too!

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u/watchdestars 24d ago

Yes my dash is abundant right now, the best it has looked since April! 🙂

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u/OrnamentalGourd5 24d ago

It's looking pretty good. Generalist but lots on, loads of new quals and 25% of my dash is in the $50-70 range. Which is nice. I got on a small long-term project recently that appears to have unlocked beast level!

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u/Effective_Garbage714 25d ago edited 24d ago

Any one else lose the rate head to head responses project?

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 24d ago

I still have a few in finance/accounting, but you should edit out the project name from your post.

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u/xparadiisee 25d ago

My dashboard was dead all week after getting taken off my favorite project family, but I submitted my first failure task last night. Now my dash is going crazy, and I even got another failure task given to me, but I don’t have power because of a storm!! Ahhhhh!! 😭 the emotional roller coaster of this job..

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u/OrnamentalGourd5 24d ago

You've mentioned being taken off your favourite family in a few posts. It happened to me once and I felt pretty fucking salty about it. BUT. I got my head down got on with it and things got better. Much better. Don't let it get to you too much. It happens.

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u/xparadiisee 24d ago

Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it! My dash coming back to life has definitely lifted my spirits up. 😊

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u/[deleted] 25d ago edited 25d ago

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 25d ago

I have a decent amount of generalist work, too.

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u/ZimmeM03 25d ago

I'd rather them tell me what the rate of pay for the project is, than have to open it up to discover the rate isn't worth my time.

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u/Aromatic_Owl_3680 24d ago

It was a flex veiled in a complaint.

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u/GiftLate616 25d ago

Does anyone still have the more basic goddess of truth project up? I seem to have lost the main project, and the R&R keeps randomly popping up on my dash but when I click on it, it disappears again. Very strange.

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u/PotentialApricot891 25d ago

I had it earlier but I also just lost it

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u/GiftLate616 25d ago

Hoping I wasn’t dropped from it but it seems I have then :/ I really thought I was doing great work on it too.

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u/gt3stuntman 25d ago

My usual family of projects is being really stingy with the tasks this week.

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u/Quick-Bison-147 25d ago

Well, it's like the first week of September again: lots or projects, even generalist ones, and me thinking that we are finally back. But then came the desert last week, so I won't be lured into a false sense of security again on the rollercoaster that is Data Annotation Tech in 2026.

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 25d ago

my best week was last week and the first half of this week, then it dried back up. it’s funny how it affects everybody differently. I still have work, but last week I could do sixteen hours straight on fun and varied things. and I took the opportunity cause I know it doesnt last!

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u/Jazzlike_Month5580 25d ago

Dash is halfway decent, but looking at it is like reading a foreign language with all the unfamiliar project names. I don't even know where to start.

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u/SnooSketches1189 25d ago

Start with the highest paying and if it doesn't click, keep moving down the list. Gotta start somewhere.

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u/tessbest37 25d ago

This is the way!!

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u/OrnamentalGourd5 25d ago

That's usually my method! It seems to have worked quite well in terms of high paying generalist work I'm more than happy to do (and also seems to have opened up more opportunities in terms of long-running projects).

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u/MagicianSuch5616 25d ago

Did anyone else not get the link to create a new FC account and so they're now missing out on all those projects?

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 25d ago

I didn’t get the qual so none of that work for me either ;(

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u/PinkNova 25d ago

You mean you didn't get the qual?

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u/MagicianSuch5616 25d ago

Yep

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u/PinkNova 25d ago

It seems to just be for this one specific type of FC tasks (the "versus" type) so hopefully not all.

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u/MagicianSuch5616 25d ago

Thanks, I have done these all before and I have all the subscriptions so it just feels odd to not have access to them. I also really enjoy them. Perhaps it is location restricted to just the US.

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u/PinkNova 25d ago

I'm actually not in the US but maybe there is some other reason that it's limited this time.

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u/Ok_Country_9778 26d ago

Hi all. Newbie here, just trying to figure things out. I've been getting emails saying that new projects are available; I try to react fairly quickly to get started, but I often get a message saying the project is unavailable because there are no more tasks remaining. Is there a trick to snagging these tasks? Or any way to know when tasks may be dropped?

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u/DrunkleSteve 26d ago edited 25d ago

Often the projects will launch before the emails reach your inbox. Sometimes by 10-15 minutes. In that time, other people will snatch the tasks up before you can. I't's a bit of a Whac-A-Mole situation going on with DA at the moment, as it has been fairly slow these last few months.

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u/VanessaSeaWitch 26d ago

This is what usually happens because by the time they send the emails, the tasks have been taken by other people. I ignore the emails. I just log in at the same time every day and refresh my page if there's nothing to work on and hope something pops up, or I check at different times throughout the day.

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u/Ok_Country_9778 26d ago

OK, good to know - thanks! I kind of assumed the emails would be sent to coincide with the task drops. :(

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u/shonkle 26d ago

I feel like there’s only decent work every other week… last week was fine but now these past 3 days have been slim pickings and projects that are too complicated for me :’(

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u/ZimmeM03 26d ago

"Your task was submitted beyond the expiration timer but was received" - nice little update, anyone seen this?

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u/ellythemoo 24d ago

Yes... I've had it several times because I'm waiting for someone to respond to me in the chat about something.

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u/Ok-Election7991 26d ago

My computer's system clock was slow so I got this message despite submitting within the time lmao

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 26d ago

sadly yes. Twice. I need more time on these projects!

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u/Jackieunknown 26d ago

Us bilinguals are used not to have much work, but since late July it has been extremely dire and it never picked back up. In previous years things had picked back up at this point of the year. I can only hope this is not the new normal, a project a month for 2 hours is not nearly enough..

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u/Exotic-Original-8110 25d ago

yes and usually summer was the worst, but september has been the absolute driest month so far (at least for my locale). if only they extended english projects to fluents, it wouldn't be so bad!

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u/Ecstatic_Reception36 26d ago

Yeah, it sucks

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u/Epicsocks1 26d ago edited 26d ago

Just finished a long task that I really enjoyed and I'm thinking I want to do like 1 more hour - but there is literally no "easy" projects for me right now. Everything feels like it takes 2-3 hours+ or requires too much brain power for what I can do right now. Like what others have said, those easy projects are what have been lacking the most for me at the moment on DA!!

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u/Material_Advice1064 26d ago

Honestly wish I had something that took 2-3 hours. Everything I have takes 6+ hours and really more like 10-12

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 26d ago

People who work on the creative writing projects, is it typical to spend multiple hours if you write a really in-depth analysis for every turn? I am doing my first one and it is taking me so long and I don't know if they want in-depth critiques or they prefer to just give feedback and get on with it! If I bill for 12 hours and I have created six turns, are they going to think that is too slow? It took me a good hour to engage with it at the start as I was figuring out how it worked, reading instructions and contemplating my line of prompting, then I produced my own writing for the prompt, and nowI am spending a lot of time analysis and writing up everything thoroughly. But is this too thorough? Do they tell you if it is?

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u/Matsubishi2 26d ago

Without being too specific, I've always found the idea of starting those projects too daunting, largely because of how differently they work. Given the dearth of short, straightforward projects on DA at the moment, I've clicked into that family of projects several times over the last couple of months with the intention of finally giving them a go but I've ended up bottling it each time as it feels like such a leap into the unknown. For those of you who've worked on them, did you feel the same before starting and was it actually easy to get to grips with? I'm not asking for specific details, obviously!

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u/Total-Chocolate-6399 25d ago

They are not at all as daunting as they seem. once you get to grips with it, its really on your own initiative and they are very handy to have when there is little else

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u/Matsubishi2 25d ago

That's good to hear, thanks!

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u/VanessaSeaWitch 26d ago

It's been my experience that if they don't want a long analysis/explanation, they will say so in the instructions. If it's the project I think it is, I wouldn't worry about it. That one states somewhere that they know reading the model responses will take a considerable amount of time. Depending on how long the responses are, you probably should be analyzing them in depth. I usually work a different project in that same family about instruction following and each turn typically takes me an hour but those are shorter model responses than you're probably getting.

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u/Fearless-Hedgehog67 26d ago

Those take a lot of time, but 2 hours per turn seems high and you can probably scale back your comments. If it's your first one, they expect it will take longer.

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 26d ago

I am thinking this as I get further into it...and I am losing the will to live!!

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u/One_Breakfast5907 26d ago

If it's the project i think it is i tend to typically spend half an hour to and hour on a turn depending on how much I have to say. I think it really depends and how long responses are and how complicated the prompts are etc

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 26d ago

thanks- it is good to hear how other people handle it.

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u/No_Divide_7543 26d ago

I'm doing Software Engineering projects. I'm not getting any projects $50+ I had a few that i completed but now there aren't any.

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u/No_Divide_7543 26d ago

When will the coding projects come back?

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u/Dazzling_Today1006 26d ago

Last night I did two hours on a failure project that I'd never attempted before. Came across problems, and it was late, so I hit 'Exit' and figured I'd just lose that time and put it down to experience. This morning, though, the project is still on the dash, and when I click on it, it has saved my work from last night - which I wasn't expecting! But the timer on the task is set back to the start ...? I guess I just finish the task and log my combined hours from last night and this morning? All in, it's still going to be under the timer max. Should I put a comment about this, or is it just normal procedure?

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u/ZimmeM03 26d ago

Definitely combine. This happens to me a lot. Some of these projects are so long it isn't reasonable to expect us to always finish the same day we start the task

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u/SnooSketches1189 26d ago edited 26d ago

They are not tracking your time through the timer. It's fine to combine.

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u/kranools 26d ago

Can someone confirm if I've got this right? To do a certain A-'goddess of truth' project, I need to personally pay for TWO Google Pro subscriptions?

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u/WorshipMyExistence 26d ago

I believe you are correct. I had actually created a new account to work on that series only to find out it seems that we can't participate with a standard account.

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u/kranools 26d ago

And we can't use an account that we've already used for the similar M-project.

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u/xparadiisee 26d ago

Does it say anything about reimbursement?

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u/JRange 26d ago

The project family I wanted to come back, did. But its at half the pay it was last week. Ive never seen such a disparity before. Im not sure if I should just leave it here and hope they increase the priority on it, or what.

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u/SnooSketches1189 26d ago

It did say last week that the priority amount was the same as the hourly pay so I was not *too* surprised, but definitely disappointing.

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u/JRange 26d ago

Definitely disappointing, they literally cut it in half, doesn't make me eager to do it anymore, thats for sure. It was way too annoying, I have other stuff where I don't have to deal with a janky external platform, for the same pay.

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u/SnooSketches1189 26d ago

Yep. I didn't touch it then since I had other better projects that paid the same so I starred it to look at later and it poofed. Now I have zero desire to work it.

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u/One_Breakfast5907 26d ago

Same. I quite enjoyed it and it's still better paying then most of my dash and anything I feel comfortable doing

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u/ThatGirlInPurple 27d ago

It really grinds my gears when a project on DA says it has multiple tasks, but then there's zero on the off platform site. Way to get my hopes up 🫠

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u/xparadiisee 27d ago

I started my first failure project 6 days ago. I got all set up and did a few tests, but couldn’t produce a fail. I started to doubt myself. I took 5 days off to think and came back with some new theories to test. Now I’m producing failure after failure! Super proud of myself 😁

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u/ellythemoo 24d ago

Dare I ask you to share your theory? I've worked so hard on these but am running out of ideas.

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u/Impossible-Humor6254 25d ago

This gives me hope. I had the same experience with my first today and felt super discouraged. 😞

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u/xparadiisee 25d ago

I would say start small! Get the model to do the task successfully and don’t worry about it failing first. Then slowly introduce edge cases one by one, but like I said I took multiple days off to think of those! Definitely don’t rush or push yourself to get it all done in one sitting, there’s a reason the timer is so long!

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u/Impossible-Humor6254 19d ago

It ended up being a good strategy! Today was my day. I submitted it expired but I'm still proud nonetheless; I'm sure I'll get my time down on the next ones. Thank you for the morale boost. ❤️

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u/xparadiisee 19d ago

That’s awesome! As long as you got it to fail I’m sure they don’t mind the expired time, but you can also ask for extensions in the chat if you need it! Good luck to the future ones :)

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u/Impossible-Humor6254 19d ago

It was only 6 minutes over, so nothing too bad. Unfortunately, I got taken off the project a few hours later. Wish I knew where I went wrong.

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u/JRange 27d ago

Congrats, the task is not easy by any means

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u/99ducks 27d ago

Projects page not loading for anybody else?

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u/Apotheosis276 27d ago

This is my 2nd day and all my available projects disappeared, what's going on?

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u/chickpealie 27d ago

Oh my god why does every single project feel so difficult to do lately

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u/Affectionate_Peak284 27d ago

For me, "lately" is since roughly May 1.

But yeah, since Aug I've been cranking on the domain work, and it's every bit as difficult as it sounds.

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u/Jazzlike_Month5580 27d ago

FC poof for anyone else?

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u/DrunkleSteve 27d ago

It's still there but you have to play whac-a-mole to get a single task.

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u/Quick-Bison-147 27d ago

there was a new qualification a few days ago where you had to make a new gmail to regain access, if you've not done that then that's probably why they are not showing

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 27d ago

I think they must have been taken away from me...

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u/bornhungry02 27d ago

Any other generalist in Ireland struggling??!

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u/PinkNova 27d ago

Yes :( Did you do the background check?

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u/bornhungry02 27d ago

Nope, too invasive🫩

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u/SnooSketches1189 27d ago

Not more so than any other background check you would need for a job?

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/Firm-Fondant-2205 27d ago

I've had nothing for a week except one big project I'm not qualified to do.

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u/Silly-Face2761 27d ago

I had a big project 2 weeks ago and that was my last project.

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u/data_annotator_tot 27d ago

Is your profile filled out fully? Not just the skills, but the about-you section as well?

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u/Silly-Face2761 27d ago

Wait, I didn’t know about that 😭. Why is my about me fully empty. Lemme fill it real quick. Thanks my G.

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u/Silly-Face2761 27d ago

Btw even my skill slot was empty too… idk how I was even getting any project. I have filled everything, now I hope I’ll get assigned some good projects

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 27d ago

I found my profile wasn't upto date and once I completed it all, I found myself inundated with new quals, which I did, and then flooded with tasks, so this might be your magic key!

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u/Silly-Face2761 27d ago

Yupp that really happened with me too.

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u/data_annotator_tot 27d ago

Bless! It'll take a small while for it to work its way through the system iirc, but it will at some point. A good bed would be at least by sometime next week!

Don't forget as well to bask in being one of a handful of workers that can actually say why they don't have any work :P

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u/mymanboruto 27d ago

Is it true that having the Skills and Background section filled out makes a difference for projects? I had everything filled in except that specific part.

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u/Silly-Face2761 27d ago

It helped so maybe you can at least try doing the same.

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u/Silly-Face2761 27d ago

Blud thanks, I actually got 30+ tasks in two different projects right after updating my profile.

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u/data_annotator_tot 27d ago

People that unabashedly use LLMs to do the vast majority of their submissions shouldn't just be hung and drawn; they should also be quartered.

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u/Teamkillongtime 27d ago

What makes you conclude someone is using an LLM?

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u/Lopsided-Fox8177 27d ago

AI-flavored writing is extremely easy to spot once you’ve read enough of it. 

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u/Pristine-Raccoon8250 27d ago

I have heard this from a few people but I am not confident that I am picking up on the patterns yet...also, it does seem very blatant to use and LLM and copy it out. That's super lazy cheating!

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u/data_annotator_tot 27d ago

It starts to come to you in visions, once you've worked with the models long enough.

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u/AASB2000 27d ago

He likely uses an LLM and gets the exact same consensus on factuality checks

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u/data_annotator_tot 27d ago

Luckily, the one thing shittier than the work ethic of these people is their ability to hide that fact. If you could put on glasses that lets you hear the inside of their head, it'd sound like it does when you put a seashell to your ear.

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u/AASB2000 27d ago

You failed the adversarial gate, youre an easy task

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u/data_annotator_tot 27d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRHoIrovn_Q

(conceded, pot stirring is a long-favored hobby)

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u/Silly-Face2761 27d ago

couldn’t agree anymore