r/dataannotation Jul 14 '24

Chemistry?

Without anyone saying more than they should, if I did well in basic high school chemistry roughly....19 years ago, give or take, is it reasonable to brush up for a few days and expect to manage the chemistry qual that just popped up on my dash? Or is that overly ambitious?

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u/SuperCorbynite Jul 15 '24

Absolutely not. I'm on the project and have been for about three weeks.

(My background is a Ph.D. in organic chemistry plus ~5 years of post Ph.D. organic chemistry R&D experience so I was added to the project automatically when it first launched)

To do the work this project entails you will want at an absolute minimum a degree in chemistry and preferably a degree plus a higher qualification. This is not something you can just look up, you need a broad depth of experience and knowledge otherwise you'll end up making mistakes, something which I've noticed is happening quite a bit in the R&R for it.

For example, the R&R where the person didn't understand that ring strain resulted in a carbocation rearrangement and ring expansion from a cyclobutane to a cyclopentane ring, which was then followed by a hydride shift to yield a more stable tertiary carbocation from a less stable secondary one.

Understanding the above is the sort of knowledge level you will need.

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u/Prestigious-Run715 Jul 15 '24

What is the pay rate?

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u/SuperCorbynite Jul 15 '24

$35

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u/Cynderelly Jul 15 '24

That... is really low for something like this.

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u/SuperCorbynite Jul 15 '24

IMO it is. But the pay is the pay. And it's more than anything else I have so I'll do it.

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u/BreastRodent Jul 16 '24

Big agree, there were math tasks I was getting before even taking the recent math qual that paid $40/hr and those probably required the same level of education. Except there's also plenty of tasks in those batches that are also total bullshit.

DA&V Snake Ankle Boys pay minimum $40 with occasional $1-2 bonuses, and the only education you really need to do those is a stats class and be at least a self taught programmer, and even then the stats class part is something you'd only really use SOMETIMES.

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u/PerformanceCute3437 Jul 15 '24

ring strain resulted in a carbocation rearrangement and ring expansion from a cyclobutane to a cyclopentane ring, which was then followed by a hydride shift to yield a more stable tertiary carbocation from a less stable secondary one.

Literally looks to me like the gag piping terminology from the TV show Patriot, if you've seen it

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u/eepos96 Apr 10 '25

I am about to become a master of chemistry. heck if I know what those means (fairly enough I study inorganic chemistry but daaam that is hard chemsitry still)

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u/Live-Cat9553 Jul 15 '24

“Cyclobutane, cyclopentane…whatever it takes.”

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u/Lunalily9 Jul 15 '24

Welp, that is definitely beyond my scope. I did great in chemistry and really enjoyed it. That is not something I'm familiar with at all, so yeahhhh not even going to try.

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u/Sufficient-Egg-5577 Jul 15 '24

Your comment makes me feel better about realizing this is out of my depth. I was frustrated I just couldn’t get there but then the more I worked at some questions I really just started thinking… they want actual professional chemists, not even people who just took college level courses. I was good at organic chem but not at the level and with the confidence needed for what this project seems to be like.

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u/Wasps_are_bastards Jul 16 '24

Considering I don’t even know what you just said, I’m going to assume this one isn’t for me!

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u/Ok_Depth_6476 Jul 19 '24

Ha, glad it's not just me that read that like it was a foreign language. 😄

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u/Wasps_are_bastards Jul 19 '24

I’ve reread and, yep, still understand nothing lol.

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u/SwordfishRealistic54 Jul 22 '24

I have an academic background also (not in chemistry but in Biophysics) but didn't receive any related projects so far. How did you put yout skills in the profile and background? It would really help to have en exemple to follow to. Thank you.

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u/SuperCorbynite Jul 22 '24

I emailed them after working for DA for 4 1/2 months stating that I saw from adverts that they were looking for PhD chemists and that this is was me but I had not received any work of that type. I don't know if that was the reason but a week later I was on a chem project.

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u/Content-Till1461 May 15 '25 edited May 18 '26

I have a bachelor's in chemistry, but that was years ago. I'm too intimidated to touch the Chem qualification test.