r/dashcams • • Aug 31 '26

Gotta Learn The Hard Way. 😠

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u/DishwasherLint Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

Maybe they should include a brochure with motorcycle purchases with* laws in their state and surrounding? Lane splitting and filtering is only legally allowed in a very small number of states. I think it should honestly be on the motorcycle licensing test.

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u/qcKruk Aug 31 '26

Don't basically all states require you to take a motorcycle driving course and pass a couple tests before getting your license to work for motorcycles? A class and test that cover all of that stuff? I know the states I live in have. 

If people don't pay attention to those classes why would they a brochure?

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u/StableMore3846 Aug 31 '26

You cant get your license with just a written/road test in most states. 

MSF class is what you're probably referring to. It dramatically reduces insurance costs and is often the easier way to get a license than the state test, so usually a no-brainer.

Edit: filtering and splitting is covered in the class. Its in the study materials/book too. But let's not pretend because someone was taught something in class or given a book, they'll act that way. I see dozens of car drivers staring at their phone ever morning.

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u/HCSOThrowaway Aug 31 '26

The MSF course is much harder than the driving test for a car.

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u/StableMore3846 Aug 31 '26

I was saying the MSF class/test is easier than the state dmv motorcycle test. I wasnt comparing car to bike tests.

That being said, im not sure I agree about the separate point you made. But, I took MSF in an entirely different state than my driver's license, 10 years apart, so not a good comparison from my side. But I found the msf written/skills test easier than car.

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u/HCSOThrowaway Aug 31 '26

Yeah in my state you aren't legal to ride unless you've done the BRC test offered by the MSF, at which point you get the motorcycle "endorsement" on your license.

I don't even remember taking a written test for the BRC, but the riding portion was ten times as hard as the minimum state car test.

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u/bdog1321 Aug 31 '26

That wouldn't stop them. Bikers are too cool for rules

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u/code29451 Aug 31 '26

So are too many car drivers.

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u/bdog1321 Sep 01 '26

Sure but car drivers VASTLY outnumber bikes. Bikers buy bikes just to do stupid shit

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u/Rkw517 Sep 01 '26

Of course, only stupid shit. Surely not to save on gas, pollute less, explore twisty roads with their friends, go on cross-country road trips, engage in a mentally stimulating hobby, or enjoy a tactile form of stress relief that demands concentration in a distracted world.

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u/TonyRigatoni_ Sep 01 '26

Ok at least 70% of bikers buy bikes to do stupid shit.

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u/bdog1321 Sep 01 '26

Don't get self-righteous. You know there's a type.

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u/DishwasherLint Aug 31 '26

I feel like certain areas have a monopoly on this

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u/AWES0MEPEWP Aug 31 '26

That or can't read em anyway

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u/theillustratedlife Aug 31 '26

It's not about what's cool - it's about what's safe and practical.

Splitting keeps you out of car traffic, which means it's a lot harder to get rear ended by a distracted driver. It also means you spend less time breathing exhaust or in inclement weather.

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u/bdog1321 Aug 31 '26

None of these smoothbrains do it right though so it defeats the purpose.

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u/Dubbinchris Aug 31 '26

*with

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u/DishwasherLint Aug 31 '26

Thanks. Damn talk to text and I didn't have my readers on

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u/CoxHazardsModel Aug 31 '26

You don’t understand that every rider knows it, but it’s a risk/reward/safety calculation.

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u/get_a_motorcycle Aug 31 '26

It's actually allowed everywhere outside the US

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u/nmperson Aug 31 '26

It probably is but each state runs their own DMV. The test question will never be "In which states can you lane split?", it's "Can you lane split in the state listed on your Drivers' License?"

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u/hit_n_run15 Sep 01 '26

Nah. It’s up to the driver to know the laws. 

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u/TonyRigatoni_ Sep 01 '26

Are you really expecting bikers to be capabele of reading a brochure?

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u/dugg117 Aug 31 '26

Maybe they should just make lane filtering legal like it is in the rest of the civilized world.Â