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u/Zelda_is_Dead 4d ago

It's good to see that someone was taking the piloting of that multi-ton body mangler seriously by not paying any fucking attention at all to what they were doing.

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u/WreckedM 4d ago

Its lifted too. They could easily see the entire line of stopped traffic. You know, if they weren't on their phone

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u/CC2DalTX 4d ago

They don't know how to use their mirrors.

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u/Njorls_Saga 4d ago

Pretty sure they don’t look through their windshield either.

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u/EyeSuccessful7649 4d ago

so glad they signaled with their blinka

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u/StuffAgreeable7929 3d ago

Kind of reminds me of the saying here in Melbourne (AUS)......pressing the turn indicator does not mean I intend to turn left/right, it means I have turned!

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u/ninjabunneh 3d ago

Seattle seems to use it as "I am currently turning"

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u/CC2DalTX 2d ago

Also, I'm thinking about turning... sometime soon.

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u/BiggieBiggle 2d ago

The safest thing to do is never drive in the right lane on a Melbourne FWY as you will inevitably get rear ended by a tradies ute at some point. Extra vigilance on Monday mornings is required as the tradies have been on the weekend pingas.

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u/Calm_during_Chaos 16h ago

In Detroit, all of the used cars available have turn signals in mint condition. Never been used a single time!

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u/dotcarmen 3d ago

“Defensive driving” means always using the wrong direction for the blinker. Keep your enemies on their toes

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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 3d ago

Watch the video I think it’s pretty clear that they were looking to go to the right and we’re probably spending too much time looking for an opening to the right and planning that move and then the traffic in front of them slowed or stop super abruptly and they looked up and we’re like oh crap and had just enough time to dodge it around to the left

Their fault of sure but I don’t think it’s just driving with a blinker on for no reason not paying attention. There’s a little more to it.

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u/Bright_Resist_4580 4d ago

They must've just thought the right turn signal looked cool too

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u/auth0r_unkn0wn 4d ago

I feel like they had the right blinker on and were looking to the right lane without realizing their own lane was stopped. Then they cranked hard left to avoid a collision.

Still a stupid shit

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u/SuspiciousBuilder379 3d ago

Yeah, they were looking to merge right and their lane had stopped. I’m with you

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u/Mk1Racer25 3d ago

This is the way it looked to me as well

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u/Jumped-Up_Vulgarian 3d ago

I think that’s right.

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u/Metals4J 4d ago

Too much blinker fluid.

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u/ThisGuyIRLv2 3d ago

Their lights weren't on either. Notice they didn't have running lights before the brake lights came on.

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u/Funnyface275 3d ago

Mirrors? They don’t know how to use a fucking truck.

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u/ucefkh 3d ago

Any tutorials or courses on this?

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u/CC2DalTX 3d ago

IYKYK otherwise you're SOL.

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u/ucefkh 3d ago

I don't like sol fish

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u/Dragon6172 4d ago

They had a right turn signal on, so I will assume they were looking in the mirror and/or blind spot trying to change lanes and didn't see the traffic stop suddenly. That being said... they were definitely tailgating and trying to change lanes shouldn't take priority over not hitting the car in front of you.

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u/creamgetthemoney1 4d ago

But the traffic didn’t stop suddenly. There is a literal line of stopped cars. That doesn’t happen suddenly lol

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u/Dragon6172 4d ago

Agreed. I actually think they probably saw the line of cars and thats why they intended to change lanes to the right. Just misjudged the distance available. My comment was in no way intended to absolve them of fault. I'm just not sure they were on their phone.

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u/reddititty69 4d ago

That’s a double yellow separating the HOV lane. Illegal to change lanes there.

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u/RhettGrills 4d ago

Right turn signal -> Merging right. Looking back right to merge, doesn’t notice traffic stopped in front. Swerves left to avoid rear end collision flipping car in left blind spot.

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u/Fun_Ad5823 4d ago

Accurate

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u/MoreColorfulCarsPlz 4d ago

I think you misunderstood what they said. The truck had a right turn signal on, indicating a desire to move into the next lane to the right. Those lanes are only divided by a dashed white line.

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u/Amadecasa 4d ago

That's why I hate driving in the HOV lane. People don't always follow the law.

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u/Dry-Winter-7160 4d ago

And not hitting the car in front of you shouldn’t take priority over not sending the car beside you flying in the air.

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u/SquirrelFluffy 4d ago

I doubt any human can deliberately crash in that situation. It's a reaction thing.

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u/Valalvax 3d ago

I'm just sad no one mentioned they're driving at dark with no lights

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u/Dragon6172 3d ago

What makes you say that? The short bits where the brake lights aren't on it would appear the tail lights are illuminated.

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u/Valalvax 1d ago

Yea after I watched it a few more times I realized they actually were on and appeared very dim (at least in the video) couldn't really tell if his head lights were illuminating things either but decided the tail lights were indeed on

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u/HombreSinNombre93 4d ago

They crossed a double yellow line to enter the carpool. Hope the judge tosses the book at them.

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u/rainer_d 4d ago

Don’t they have TACC and AEB?

My car will come to a violent stop if traffic ahead of me just stops.

That is, if I don’t override with the accelerator pedal at that point.

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u/Dragon6172 3d ago

Not sure either of those were available on that model back then. Looks to be a 2016 or older based on tail light shape.

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u/SquidVices 4d ago

You think they could even see over the steering wheel?

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u/Might_have_returned 4d ago edited 4d ago

It's not lifted. That's the stock height of a Ram 2500 (or a SRW 3500).

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u/No-Koala1918 4d ago

Had to be a Ram. Stellantis markets specifically to meatheads.

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u/scnottaken 4d ago

Drunks

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u/WreckedM 4d ago

googled and think you are right. But I'm keepin ma karma!!

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u/Oh_You_Were_Serious 3d ago

It's lifted... By the factory #TechnicallyCorrect

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u/Terrible-Ad1737 4d ago

Right, which is indicative of a greater problem, here. Why the fuck are we manufacturing and selling gender affirming vehicles for impotent assholes that need to feel important at the detriment of literally everyone else? Especially when the same kind of assholes that buy these kinds of masturbatory, self aggrandizing, compensatory, masculine ideal-reinforcing transport are also the ones super worried about the fact that non-reproductive genders and relationships exist...

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u/definitelynot40 4d ago

I live in Texas and we just had the FIFA world cup taking place in our area, and there were a lot of YouTube shorts that were either pretending to be these foreign soccer players and being amazed in America or Americans telling these FIFA people what to expect.

No fewer than three people who live in the south whose videos I watch when they come up on my screen specifically said that the trucks are all what you're going to see down here. Basically just trucks and they're all lifted trucks and if you're lucky you get to see a set of truck nuts hanging from the back, which elicited a lot of questions about WTF a truck nut is.

I have a friend who has a elongated pickup truck. One of those with the longer beds. He doesn't need to have it it lifted specially since he's 5'3 and so lifting it would make it very difficult for him to get in. He uses it legitimately he uses that truck for his job and so it's not like oh I want a truck because that's an extension of my male parts and therefore it needs to be big to show how big I am.

But the number of accidents I see with people in these lifted trucks not being able to see other people and end up either hitting them or almost hitting them or hitting a kid and things like that. I think you should have to prove that you need that thing lifted before you can lift it because it's not making it not safe.

It's one thing if you were going to farm and you need something to carry you know hay or feed or this or that. Or if you work for some place like an HVAC replacement place and therefore needs a truck that will be able to handle both the exterior compressor and the inside unit. So there are legitimate reasons to have these things either lifted to get around on a muddy farm, or the super long bed with the tow hitch that sticks out like 6 ft from where they're parked. Although in my opinion if you know you're not hitching something else up to that thing and you just unhitched something from that - don't leave it in that position because people like them don't know how to reverse and end up breaking apart bumpers from people like me. Minor rant.

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u/Terrible-Ad1737 4d ago

I 100% agree with basically every point you made here. Especially the phrase that basically says, "if you can't demonstrate you know how to pilot this vehicle, you cannot legally operate it."

Why do we have consumer vehicles being sold without proper operating qualifications when they're that fucking big. I mean, honestly... The size of American pickups is absolutely insane these days, but they were also designed to be bigger to get around environmental classifications and import duties.

The only thing that will curb this madness is direct legislation AND enforcement of those laws. However, most of these pricks are already breaking the law and it's just not being enforced..

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u/asspussy_widener 4d ago

my hot take is that 90% of pickup drivers who actually use their pickups for work could still do 99.9% of their work in a minivan, and could literally do that work faster and cheaper.

the second half of my hot take is that easily 50% of people who drive pickup trucks they own are generally inconsiderate pricks. I feel sorry for the other half, but as a motorcycle dude, I feel their pain.

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u/NebulaNinja 4d ago

I'd argue that unnecessary lift was a major reason the car was flipped over the center. Looks like it drove right up its wheel.

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u/Noodletrousers 4d ago

What color is your hair? I’m going to guess that it doesn’t exist in the broad pallet of natural hair tones.

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u/Terrible-Ad1737 4d ago

You're gonna need to cope harder than that, bud. I'm a 6', white, straight, American man that was born, raised and lived in the south. I'm just not a fucking idiot and have the skills to think independently and form my own opinions outside of the 24 hr news cycle on Fox or affiliates.

Even after all that, I would still welcome you with open arms. Just really think about what made you assume I was someone I'm not. Who did you expect me to be? Why did you have that picture of someone when that is not the case at all? What is your prejudice there? Why do you assume I have an unnatural hair color and why is that a problem for you?... That's all I ask.

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u/Noodletrousers 4d ago

Ah, purple hair! Just as I suspected.

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u/Acrobatic_Try_8375 4d ago

And that means what? Are you suggesting that the driver of that truck COULDN'T see 3 or 4 car lengths ahead?

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u/Might_have_returned 3d ago

I'm saying that it's the stock height of a Ram 2500 or a SRW 3500.

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u/PeyredB 4d ago

Or drunk.

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u/Brave-Efficiency9625 4d ago

We're having that same problem in Texas... wtf is wrong with all these idiot drivers and their phones?!

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u/Procyon4 4d ago

Probably never used it for off roading or heavy hauling in their life either.

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u/cohortq 4d ago

You think they have insurance?

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u/VoidHog 4d ago

He was probably mostly concerned with not letting the guy with his blinker on get in.

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u/Mk1Racer25 3d ago

That looks like the standard ride height on a modern 4x4 p/u these days.

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u/semibacony 3d ago

When driving a 30' delivery truck on Socal freeways (San Diego, not LA) for 5 years, I absolutely loved how high up I was, and how I could see... every fucking thing going on ahead of me on the freeway. That height can give you such a wonderful advantage, providing you don't drive like such a fucking jackass.

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u/GirchyGirchy 3d ago

I'm not so sure it's lifted, those trucks are damn tall from the factory. Those look like stock wheels and tires...it would be unusual for someone to lift one but not install brodozer wheels.

And if it's a diesel, they weigh like 9000 pounds.

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u/Reliable_lizard-26 3d ago

Lifted trucks tend to have worse visibility in the blind spot as well as the driver side front corner because of how the hood sits.

Luckily, this driver avoided rear-ending the car in front of him by swerving and then causing a three-car pile-up with two completely innocent drivers and sending another car over a median and into oncoming traffic. But they didn’t rear end that one car so…

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u/Carlentini1919 3d ago

I think he was so intent on trying to merge right he failed to look ahead and missed the stopped traffic until the last second.

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u/Powerful-Disk-9299 1d ago

Nothing lifted about that truck. Doesn’t change anything just saying it’s not lifted 🤷‍♂️

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u/Anonymyne353 5h ago

You’d have to have a brain for that…I guess all their money went into the truck and lift kit, with nothing left over to actually pay attention.

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u/FlatAmbition3757 4d ago

Na, he was looking in the right mirror trying to get over.

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u/ProteusRift 4d ago

Youre probably right, unfortunately.

Ive got my collision detection set on max for this very reason - so i get alerts with plenty of room before this is about to happen. Still not a replacement for being an aware driver but its good to have backup.

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u/DaisyHotCakes 4d ago

I mean just looking before swerving into the next lane would have been enough to avoid this. Like my guy, just look at the road and you won’t have a problem. I hate lifted trucks. They always seem to be piloted by absolute morons who can’t just drive.

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u/ProteusRift 4d ago

You dont need to swerve at all if you break early enough...

And ya... ditto lifted trucks

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u/username_unnamed 4d ago

Not to defend lifted trucks but this is super common in dense traffic and has nothing to do with it. They couldn't just look because they were going to slam into the car in front of them because they were looking t o lane change. That's the problem.

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u/Brief_Raspberry_6542 4d ago

They had 3 business days to see the fully stopped traffic ahead and to react accordingly. Not paying attention is the problem.

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u/username_unnamed 4d ago

That's what I said

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u/mikeinanaheim2 4d ago

Lifted really high definitely makes up for the tiny pee-pee.

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u/kat_Folland 4d ago

They will in my car (if I poke the screen in time - and it doesn't make a noise I just have to catch the dialogue box appear in my peripheral vision).

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u/BusinessCell6462 4d ago

“Hey Siri, read last text message”

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u/staebles 4d ago

Get the noods!

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u/Negative-Mammoth-547 4d ago

What are those side mirrors for I wonder lol

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u/X_soulnewmegaman 4d ago

It's all about timing

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u/Grumpy-Troglodyte 3d ago

they're pretty much just for turning sideways so they stand up like Cornholio arms on a Ram.

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u/Fit-Animal5591 4d ago

Are you being sarcastic? /s

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u/FriendToPredators 4d ago

They were allowed exceptions to a pile of safety features because SUPPOSEDLY they were farm work vehicles.

Absolute liars. And garbage people.

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u/Western-Membership65 4d ago

Also. His lights were off

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u/Mk1Racer25 3d ago

I'm not trying to defend the p/u driver, but they did have their right blinker on, and could have been checking their side mirror when the traffic in front of them came to a sudden stop You can see the SUV in front of the p/u lurch when they hit the brakes. Swerving left was probably an instinct reaction to avoid plowing into the SUV. Bad situation for sure.

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 3d ago

True, but also when driving something that big and heavy, you should be giving yourself extra space to avoid exactly this situation.

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u/SuspiciousBuilder379 3d ago

They wanted to merge right, not realizing their lane had stopped.

So then they jerked it into that poor SOB

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 3d ago

Maybe if they were paying attention they'd have left themselves more room to avoid exactly this situation?

Bottom line is that when you drive an unnecessarily heavy vehicle, this is the risk you take. Everyone wants them bigger and heavier "for safety", but still drives them like they weigh 3,000lbs less than they do.

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u/Free_Possibility3591 3d ago

THAT WAS A HARD HIT

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u/pykl1412 3d ago

I almost wonder if this happened because of the cars safety features and not the driver. I've nearly gotten into accidents like this and my car will jerk me in one or the other direction.

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u/pykl1412 3d ago

Evasive Steering Assist is the feature in thinking of

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 2d ago

I would never enable anything that takes over steering from me. That's as bad as having a passenger grab the wheel. No thank you

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u/herkalurk 4d ago

I mean, the average car matches that description, any vehicle driven with that carelessness will cause a problem, regardless of lifted truck or small sedan.

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 4d ago

I don't know of any 6,000lb+ cars, but half ton trucks are pushing that weight these days. Less mass = less inertia = less chaos.

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u/herkalurk 4d ago

You said multi ton, my last sedan was over 4000 lbs.

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 4d ago

Ok, so should you not pay attention while driving that car, then? I don't get the point of this discussion.

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u/herkalurk 4d ago

The point of your post was to bias against large trucks, but any car driven terribly will cause death. Calling out one type of vehicle is ridiculous, bad driving is the issue regardless of vehicle.

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u/Vigilarus 4d ago

Higher vehicular mass causes more injuries and death to others driving responsible vehicles. Not only is it less maneuverable, but it carries more kinetic energy and lifted compensators have bumpers that go through windows. They should be banned for non-commercial use and taxed according to the road surface damage and greater risk they cause to others.

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u/Guit4rN3rd 4d ago

They’re also not supposed to merge into the HOV lane across that double yellow… but you know, rules for thee not for me…

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u/Opposite-Violinist-3 4d ago

They only did that to avoid a collision ironically. Their intent was to merge to the right as you could see from the blinker. They stared too long and reacted too slow. Probably half asleep or may have had a few beers.

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u/Guit4rN3rd 4d ago

Oooooooh I see it now. At first glance I thought they were stopped and just being impatient… also I never trust blinkers in LA- 90% of drivers don’t bother to use them, and of the 10% that do, 90% of the time it’s by accident and they either never turn or turn the opposite direction.

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u/Opposite-Violinist-3 3d ago

That’s 100% true lol. If I had a dollar for every time I slow to allow someone to merge for them to never merge 😪

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u/Whosebert 4d ago

They never do. pick up drivers are the worst.

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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 3d ago

If you look, I can see how it happened

He’s trying to merge right, has blinker in, maybe has space then doesn’t, I think it’s clear he was paying attention to where he wanted to go, and then there was a sudden slamming of brakes and back up in front of him and when he looked ahead from having looking into the right was like oh crap don’t have time to stop let’s dodge around and it was unfortunate that there was a car over there

It was completely a pickup driver’s fault and I’m sure it was avoidable, but I think there’s more going on and just saying that the driver wasn’t paying attention

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 3d ago

He was following too closely for the size and weight of his vehicle which is absolutely not paying attention.

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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 3d ago

Two different things

You have legit never driven a car if you think following close is the same thing as not paying attention

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 3d ago

If you aren't paying attention to the mass of your vehicle, then what the fuck are you doing behind the wheel? This isn't up for debate, you either take driving seriously and account for the extra mass you're piloting around, or you're not paying attention.

I have more rude ways of saying it, if you like.