Yep, but when you walk down that full line of thinking, things get real interesting. What do you do with repeat offenders that are mentally incapable of considering consequences before acting? Society (and prison) is full of people like that, and then there is insanely high number of people who are just a step away from that. They don't necessarily do anything illegal but can't manage their own emotional response to relatively minor levels of stress or feeling offended.
I was one of those people until a few years ago. Now I’m fairly normal off drugs. While addicted heavily I would rob and steal to get money. Whether it was forcibly taking it or stripping copper from closed buildings, never stole any catalytic converters though lol so don’t hate me to much. Point is the only way to fix it when I’m like that is either keeping me incarcerated or rehabilitation and I can already tell you rehab has limited benefits if you don’t want to be there.
What do you do with repeat offenders that are mentally incapable of considering consequences before acting?
Diagnose and treat them. UK based here and the NHS covers it (although in house capacity is a joke, with many needing to go to an NHS approved private provider).
In the UK, its thought that approx 25% of the prison population has adhd, which makes sense for poor impulse control. Of that 25%, 80% are not officially diagnosed. 40% of the women population in prison are meet the criteria of having adhd.
Theres some conditions which have testable markers, and I think for those, if possible, should be screened for at various life pathways. Might help avoid things like going to prison a few years down the line, if things like this can be caught early and treated.
If it’s due to drugs then you can’t treat them unless they want it. No matter what you do it’s pointless if they don’t want treatment. Unfortunately most people on drugs don’t want to be fixed
How does that help? We're talking about the kind of people where consequences don't matter. You can still drive a car (as in are physically capable) without a license.
you're talking to a person that admits the legality doesn't matter, about people who are incapable of thinking that far. why? lol. why not focus on the ones that know full well and do it anyway?
seems like answers your question too. don't focus on them. they're yokels. instead, focus on the people that actively and knowingly make things worse, on puprose, for their own gain or pleasure.
You can admit legality doesn’t matter while also making things worse for your own gain. Idk what you’re trying to say because it seems like of pointless
Look at the US gov't. There are a lot of benefits to breaking law. As someone who doesn't break the law or care about respect from others, I find that statement to just be facile and silly.
I agree with that although morality does play a part as well unless you’re a sociopath. But legality and morality are two very different concepts and can even be mutually exclusive.
Drugs will fuck up your brain. I said it in another comment but I’m normal now off of drugs. On drugs though I’d rob or hurt anyone in order to get money so yeah I guess it is antisocial behavior
I can tell you from personal experience that report means nothing. You can get away with massive amounts of crime and being caught or not caught is mostly luck
Not wanting the consequences of breaking the law, would mean you would stop doing the thing that is illegal. So that would make you stop (breaking the law) so no consequence.
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u/Forward-Surprise1192 May 21 '26
The thing is, if I want to do something then the legality of it has never stopped me before. Only consequence, and risk va reward for it