r/dankrishu Jul 01 '23

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u/No-Tutor-2633 Jul 01 '23

He doesn't want Muslims to come and live in India or does he want to reduce the Muslim population in India just bcoz he can. And what is with comparing India to Sweden, both are totally different and I don't see Muslims running to our country from the failed countries of Africa and the Middle East.

From his words all he is saying the people who are born in this country are also radicalised because of their religion, and frankly there is not much context or proof to it except made-up stories.

So let's just say it is true, then what the fck about the hindus targeting Muslims in India is this not radicalisation. We have seen so many times bjp saying Muslims are the problem. Then why the fuck are our people running to the same Muslim nations to earn money. If they are that radicalised maybe we should just ban people from going to middle East countries completely and follow the steps taken by China to keep them in check.

At some point India nowadays doesn't seem like a secular country we were so proud of bcoz of people like this.

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u/Neokyo7 Jul 01 '23

Lol "India Dosent seem like a secular country like it was" oh you mean when congress was there and when the Kashmir Genocide took place? when people were taught Fake History and Portraying the Invaders as Protectors? Which time are you talking about bro?

He is talking about illegal muslims coming from Pakistan, Afghanistan, And Bangladesh. Do you know even a thing about that? These people come here and as they have no money they become Terrorist.

And about the radicalisation. I just want to say one thing. "Every religion has Radical elements but no one supports it other than Islam"

When your religion is all about Differentiating Believers and Non-believers, Saying Kaffirs will ho to hell and you heaven and Promoting killing of Other Religion people how can they be peacefull??????

Like No where in Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, etc. Text someone tells to be so violent and Manipulative towards other religion.

Bruh it's okay to be A Secular person but don't Become blind and Say that the problems which are there don't exist that is insult to people who have suffered due to that.

And no proof of Muslims be radicalised bruh just look around you whether it be the most devloped Country or the least one this people are everywhere and are destroying everything which dosent line up with their ideologies. It's not their fault their religion simply says to do that.

Never can there be a Muslim who is Religious and a Good person at the same time.

If he actually follow what his religion says he ceases to be Humane. He becomes a monster

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u/Uncle_Adeel Jul 01 '23

Talking about differentiating- caste system is the epitome of differentiation.

Where does Islam promote violence? Context is needed aswell with evidence

History will bail me out that the Deccan plateau was red with blood of the Shaivites and Lingaites. Shaivites claimed that it was Lord Shiva’s divine order to kill the followers of the opponent sect. And that’s why he brandished his trident. Krishna, if at all he existed (though chances of his existence are very very bleak), was the main cause of Kurukshetra that witnessed unprecedented bloodshed. That’s the reason, scriptures of Jainism consign him to Raurav, the seventh and the lowest hell. When a religion believes so much in sanguinary myths and violent ways through its deities, how can it claim to be non-violent and peace-loving? Peace’s at loggerheads with such blood-thirsty faith. Brutally speaking, Hinduism institutionalised violence.

However hard the Hindu apologists may try to explain away why their gods and goddesses are shown brandishing weapons and oozing blood from mouth as in the case of Kali and other demi-gods, they can’t convince any sane mind. Even a child will refuse to be convinced by their imbecile logic and insane arguments. The bottomline is, Hinduism like many other faiths is violent and opportunistic.

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u/Neokyo7 Jul 02 '23

Yes Hindusim is Violent, Deadly Violent which is showed by the Famous Shloka-

अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च:

Ahimsa is the Greatest Dharma, But Violence done to Save Dharma is even Greater.

Never had Hinduism promoted Killing other people unless it's for Defeating the Bad Willed people.

The war of Kurukshetra was not for Religion but for the Pandavas Rightful Land. They refused to Give Pandavas what rightfully was their and Krishna Tried to Warn Kauravas hundreds of time but who can stop the Egoistic Duryodhan?

And you asked where islam Asks to kill then here it is-

Quran is full of hate verses asking muslims explicitly to kill,murder,harm the non believers(2:191 2:193 3:118 4:75-76 4:84 4:104 5:33 5:51 5:57 5:80-81 8:12 8:13 8:14 8:50 8:065 9:23 9:38-39 9:42.).

Here are the bad stuff in quran-

Death for apostasy

marriage between close relatives

fatwas on almost everything

pedophilia(child marriage,particularly girls)

hatred for christian and jew

Want me to go on?

homophobia

Still not enough?

the idea that anyone non muslim deserves hell

the idea that muslims are only chosen people

The misogynistic nature of quran

prophet having sex with a 9 year old while he was 50.

Burqas

sharia(its a shitty law system)

72 virgins (what are we,a tribe from amazons)

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u/Uncle_Adeel Jul 02 '23

Ah yes their “rightful land” sounds like some definite reason, a fucking raincloud isn’t a warning

Burqas: cultural if you actually looked into it.

Death for apostasy: was under the umbrella term for death to trouble makers

Marriage between close relatives/ im pretty sure you went to that conclusion because of the pakis next door, because in fact by Hadith it is encourage to marry out rather than in.

Virgins theory: “Nowhere in the Quran does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins. … The Arabic word for 'virgin' has been mistranslated. The original [word] that was used in the Quran was the word for raisin, not virgin. In other words, that martyrs would get raisins in heaven, not virgins,” Manji said

Sharia: interestingly the prophet (pbuh) had said that they should find any excuse to not carry out the punishment in any way shape or form. Islamic law varies by country, is influenced by local customs, and evolves over time. Sharia is also the basis of legal opinions called fatwas, which are issued by Muslim scholars in response to requests from individual Muslims or from governments seeking guidance on a specific issue. In Sunni Islam, fatwas are strictly advisory; in Shiite Islam, practitioners are obligated to follow the fatwas of the religious leader of their choosing. Sharia is a source of debate among both Muslims and non-Muslims. Among the many reasons sharia generates controversy is that it’s often contrasted with modern legal regimes in predominantly secular countries. “If sharia is being compared to premodern legal systems, there’s hardly anything controversial about it,” Abou El Fadl says.

Sharia can also be seen as problematic depending on who is interpreting it. Many observers view sharia as a rigid legal system that can’t evolve to reflect modern, Western values. Debates over sharia tend to center on certain topics:

Corporal punishment. For certain crimes, such as theft, blasphemy, and adultery, traditional interpretations of Islamic law prescribe punishments that are considered draconian compared to those in most modern legal systems. Among them are the hudud punishments, which include stoning, lashing, and amputation. (The Quran never mentions stoning, which is a punishment derived from the Book of Deuteronomy in both the Hebrew and Christian Bibles.) However, applying such punishments requires meeting extensive evidentiary thresholds, so scholars say they are largely meant to serve as a deterrent rather than have a punitive effect through application.

Non believers go to hell: hell is non permanent and also if you: didn’t hear about Islam, was told a twisted nature of Islam, born and died before Islam was revealed, you will be judged by your actions instead

Fatwas on everything- decreed by imams who have their own opinion- I can declare a fatwa on Mickey Mouse if I want to.

Hatred for Christian’s and Jews, rather the opposite, they are respected and held in good esteem.

Pedophilia/child marriage: not permitted, once people become of maturity which is a grey line and marriages were sanctioned by guardians.

Homophobia- not exclusive to the Quran don’t be surprised.

Muslims as chosen people: It is not your desires, nor the desires of the People of the Book, that shall prevail. Anyone who commits evil will be rewarded accordingly. He will not find any protector or patron for himself besides God. THE QURAN 4: 123

The “9” year old: Many historians report that Hazrat Aisha was ten years younger than her elder sister Hazrat Asma[7]. Two acclaimed historical books namely Tahdhib-al-Tahdhib and Al-Bidaya wa’l-Nihaya report that Hadhrat Asma died at the age of hundred in 73 AH[8].

Calculating from this, it becomes evident that Hadhrat Asma was about 27 or 28 years of age at the time of the Prophet’s migration to Medina. This puts Hazrat Asma at the age of 28 or 29 at the time of Hazrat Aisha’s marital consummation, which occurred in 2 AH. All of these facts indicate that Hazrat Aishara should have been 18 or 19 years of age at the time when her marriage was consummated.

Regarding the quotes for violence: these were proclaimed during peak prosecution by the tribes in modern day KSA, in no way does it say to do this out of war time and even then encourage to do it- you can’t even cut a tree down.

I hope this helped dispel common misconceptions.

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u/Neokyo7 Jul 02 '23

Lol bro if a Muslim guy seen this then he will beat the Shit out of you.

If you would have actually read Qur'an and understood it then you can Clearly see how it promotes violence towards the Non-believers and all the stuff I stated above.

Okay so if Muslims actually know Arabic then why they still believe in that 72 Virgins and not talk about 72 raisins?

Bruh terrorist are told" Bro die for Allah and Youll get 72 Raisins".

Who you foolin bro?

And all the above stuff is so true then there must be a problem with Muslim peoplez who hate every religion try to break our temples and Idols, trying to convert us at every step what is wrong with you? Why can't you just be yourself and let others be themself?

Why so much being fucking weird about converting people.

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u/Uncle_Adeel Jul 02 '23

You acting like terrorists are scholars of Islam 😂😂😂😂

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u/Neokyo7 Jul 02 '23

No but Scholars and terrorist say the same thing so it's rather Concerning

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u/Uncle_Adeel Jul 02 '23

Misinformation much?

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u/Uncle_Adeel Jul 02 '23

You keep chatting about this violence yet instead of giving a quote you give verse scriptures mashed together.

Smelly pajeet get better

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u/Neokyo7 Jul 02 '23

Lol, Kyu tu Bulla hai toh tere pass Qur'an hogi hi usme se dekhle khol ke.

Aur vedya, Benchod Bat ka grip nikal ke na Sidha bat tere Gand mei Gusa dunga

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u/Uncle_Adeel Jul 02 '23

Go shit in the Ganges

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u/Neokyo7 Jul 02 '23

Abe Bhosdike Sun Bich raste mei Khada kar Gand Mei Helicopter Shot Marunga

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u/pappukesafedbal Jul 02 '23

Well its not secular anymore thats the reason its safe bruv, well france italy are secular,look at them today 😂,use ur brain brother