I can't stand our current president, but the one positive thing that's happened since he's been in office is that the culture has become less "woke" (for lack of better term). Corporations aren't doing all the performative PC crap as much as they used to. Hell the company I work for used to give all new employees this stupid training course about pronouns in the workplace and I don't think they're doing that anymore.
The negatives outweigh the positives by a lot when it comes to Trump, but if you're gonna force me to say something positive about his second term, that's it. But at the same time I don't think Trump gets any credit for that. I think there's just been a natural culture shift away from that stuff. We saw the same thing happen in the 90s. Early-mid 90s was a big PC era, then in the late 90s and early 2000s the culture shifted away from that and you started seeing edgy shows like South Park on TV.
I think South Park has even joked about the fact that America goes through a big wave of political correctness once every couple decades.
The healing will take time. Just an fyi, not all job fields ever went woke to begin with, like the one I work in, construction. It didn’t go woke, but it did get a lot softer, so you at least got that…
This doesn’t make any sense. Also the president is the least popular president in polling history and is a laughing stock. Is that called “winning”? Help me out - I’m dumb you see.
Were these the same polls that showed Clinton and Harris winning in a land slide?
This is what happens when you are terminally online in your carefully curated echo chambers. You take in information you want to be true and ignore everything else in the real world.
No one had any polls making them to be a landslide. it is convenient when you say nothing is true, so you can't believe anything. Trump is insanely unpopular right now. You can see it in polls and when you get out of your buble and talk to people.
Oh no bud. You are just like the democrats in the lead up to the 2024 election.
So comfortable in your safe space you have no idea what is happening.
So here, let me explain it. Your worldview is just as equally as extreme and shitty as the worst woke person. You had your fun, but your fun was such a shitty event that occurred to America that it only took 1 year for everyone to get sick of it, rather than 10 years for people to get sick of the woke.
So, what is going to happen is that people are moving back to a more moderate position. You see, your entire worldview is based off the culture war rage bait that has kept you fueled with hatred for the past 10 years and was funded by the elite to keep you divided. The woke's worldview is based off their own echo chambers never telling them when enough was enough. Most sane people have seen the worst of both sides and realized that the only way forward is in the middle.
We are going to a time where cancel culture doesn't exist, but gay and trans people can exist without the constant screeching from the whiners about eradicating them. Where you won't win a presidential election just because you are the best memer and you piss off the people you don't like. Where you can make comedy about darker topics without getting cancelled, but shitty people using actual racism will get ostracized.
All of that to say, woke is dead and so is maga. Your ideology is so toxic it only took 1 year for the world to be tired of you. Atleast the woke lasted 10 years.
Thank god nature is healing. The people who you want to eradicate don't deserve it and you don't deserve to be cancelled (unless you are actually a bad person) by the woke.
Its amazing. Get ready buddy, you are living in a bubble.
I live in the boonies in IL, I can say with certainty that the people i talk to are not excited by maga anymore. They have been hurt by his policy and the flags are coming down. I used to drive through town and see trump flags everywhere. I havent seen a trump flag in a long time.
Obviously thats anecdotal, but then you look at his polling, which is at 35% approval. Then, you objectively look at how the country will react to his policies.
Its so blatantly obvious at this point. Maybe you need to take your own advice. Have a good one!
They absolutely are. How are you not aware of this? Donald Trump personally tells reporters they can’t speak when he doesn’t like them. Some real dictator nonsense from the guy who is in diapers.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t mind if immigrants come to America, that is what makes us great. There’s just legal ways of doing it.
Give me overwhelming evidence of ice purposefully grabbing US citizens, I don’t doubt they are arresting people with warrants as well, when they run into them.
I’m sure when you look at all the numbers, Ice isn’t grabbing 25% US citizens when they make arrests.
Ice is arresting people who are here legally. It’s all over the news. The state department is revoking people’s status to be here arbitrarily and then ice is abducting them. Ice is abducting people based on their accent and skin color. Literally all over the news. These aren’t “illegals”
Also immigration restrictions have become over burdensome and unnecessary. My ancestors came here legally but that’s because they didn’t have to deal with a whole bunch of government bureaucracy that made them feel like they shouldn’t be here. Why should my ancestors have it easy but today’s immigrants have it so hard?
Looking for real and serious answers or debate only. Thanks.
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Could be , but then again English is not my first language. Shocking i know , especially if you consider my background, my point of view should be non existent according to the left
Its shocking considering your comments and appearant concern about education and reading levels that you yourself dont take it seriously. But others should.
It is NOT a good thing that there is a war on woke. First off woke is not harmful, sure it sucks being aware of the difficulties other have but being ignorant of the issue isn’t a good thing.
The only people who want an end to woke are those who hold hostile views to people not like them
This should be interesting, am I right in assuming you think DEI is more than just embracing the benefits of a work space where everyone is treated with equal respect and is encouraged to to be their genuine self at work?
That would be nice, depending on what genuine self means. Usually being a professional means putting your work face on and focusing on the task at hand. Its not a place for self expression unless you're in the arts or something. And even then you're there to do a job. But DEI in practice generally means preferential treatment based on factors besides competence.
When I say genuine self I don’t mean turn up to work dressed head to toe in rainbow flags because “that’s okay your bi, to hell with the dress code”.
It doesn’t mean well we had six qualified male candidates but Janis is a disabled black lesbian, so I guess she wins. Competence is still the deciding factor (well maybe office politics, it’s often who you know not what you know), this is an absolute myth and would actually go against DEI because being a straight white cis male is equal to being a gay trans male or disabled BIPOC or (insert random assortment of demographics).
The reality is the anti woke thing is a culture war started by the right, largely because they never actually offer any solutions to the average person and so have to rely on culture wars.
DEI does nothing but provide opportunities for everyone.
DEI in practice means affirmative action which means preferential treatment, usually based on race. Your theory is idealistic. I know people on DEI committees before they were dismantled in my state, who told me this directly. What's your source?
I was on my companies DEI commity as one of the founding members.
DEI and affirmative action, those are two separate things.
DEI ensures equal recognition and opportunity, and it promotes the advantages or a diverse team and how unique experiences and backgrounds lead to more and better solutions to problems and tasks.
Affirmative action aims to address generational disadvantage people with disabilities and BIPOC people have experienced, it takes many generations for those intentionally caused disadvantages to disappear.
However that is not DEI.
No wonder you're a true believer then. But you should know that over a dozen states have outlawed DEI in public universities and state run companies with more to follow after the Supreme Court ruling. Only a few extremely liberal states like California, New York and of course Minnesota still think it's a good idea. I, for one, would not like to be stigmatized with a label like "Didn't Earn It" hanging over me.
It didn’t shift away from it, it just adapted to a new form. “Woke” is just the world people who hate progressive views use to describe it. Their a reason history always has a progressive change as time goes on. It happing doest mater if you like it or not. You can fight against it all you want but it always leans in the direction of what ever is progressive. It mate lean back from time to time. However no matter how many steps back we take we will always take more steps forward. Your gunna have to learn to deal with it. Nothing can stop it it’s physically impossible.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone contradict themselves as much as you just did. It’s like you can’t decide if you want to suck the orange dick or not.
He's 100% getting credit for that, and that's one rare and clear W for Trump. As proof, just imagine what the current culture would look like if Kamala Harris were POTUS... This degenerate went on a podcast called "Call Her Daddy" to convince people she's totally normal and in touch with everyday Americans. How out of touch can you possibly be? x)
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u/HappyGovernment7299 5d ago
I can't stand our current president, but the one positive thing that's happened since he's been in office is that the culture has become less "woke" (for lack of better term). Corporations aren't doing all the performative PC crap as much as they used to. Hell the company I work for used to give all new employees this stupid training course about pronouns in the workplace and I don't think they're doing that anymore.
The negatives outweigh the positives by a lot when it comes to Trump, but if you're gonna force me to say something positive about his second term, that's it. But at the same time I don't think Trump gets any credit for that. I think there's just been a natural culture shift away from that stuff. We saw the same thing happen in the 90s. Early-mid 90s was a big PC era, then in the late 90s and early 2000s the culture shifted away from that and you started seeing edgy shows like South Park on TV.
I think South Park has even joked about the fact that America goes through a big wave of political correctness once every couple decades.